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Originally posted by eyewitness86
Originally posted by eNumbra
reply to post by Leto
It's not illegal to hold a criminal until the Authorities arrive. He crossed the line if he really did assault anyone, but I'd like to hear all the circumstances until I pass judgment on whether or not it was assault.
WRONG!! Another person who knows no law. trespassing is NOT a ' criminal ' act!! It is a misdemeanor, akin to a civil infraction, and it is NOT legal to threaten or use DEADLY force to hold accused trespassers! SIMPLE
You cannot refute this; it is fact. It is the SAME thing as someone walking across your lawn; you cannot point guns at them and ' detain' them, and a cop cannot arrest someone for a misdemeanor they did not witness, so there! the rancher would have to go down and convince a judge to sign a warrant if there was trespassing, but the rancher cannot legally kidnap women, shove them around and threaten them with deadly force( the jury found he DID do these things) unless he wants to pay.
Are you allowed to shoot anyone that knocks on your front door just because years ago someone ELSE knocked on the door and did a home invasion on you? NO!! You cannot use past experience as an excuse for conduct that is illegal!
The rancher had NO right to assume anything...he assumed that the women were illegals, even though he had NO PROOF os such...he assumed that they were purposely trespassing instead of lost...he assumed he could kidnap, assault,threaten, etc..the women..and he lost.
I hope he loses his ranch the next time he picks on poor women and hassles them for a petty trespass situation...nd the fact that he was a COP years ago tells me all I need to know: He is like most cops...itching to abuse and use force on the helpless and weak. A former cop...no wonder the rancher used bad judgement and assualted women...he was just relying on how he and his cop pals acted in the past!!
If the rancher was within his rights and did nothing wrong, then a JURY of his PEERS would not have convicted him...but they did, and he will pay. Maybe if a few redneck ranchers had to lose all they have, we would see less of this garbage...leave the poor women alone and pick on a real ganster if you want to act tough...but the rancher doesn't have any guts. All he wants is glory and now he will pay.Good!!
Originally posted by hdchop
""WRONG!! Another person who knows no law. trespassing is NOT a ' criminal ' act!! It is a misdemeanor, akin to a civil infraction, and it is NOT legal to threaten or use DEADLY force to hold accused trespassers! SIMPLE""
Your right it is "Simple" it's called Self-defense!! Especially when the other party can't utter a word cause he/She's full of lead.....
I don't care who you are - anybody, anywhere, anytime; if you come on my property, theive from me, with me fearing for my life - Your arse is going to be full of buck shot......