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Originally posted by grantbeed
what about the large number of people who think 2012 is the start of a spiritual awakening??
this is not a fearful thought regarding 2012, yet it is as huge as all the world ending stuff such as planet x, pole shifts, ww3, etc
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to post by grantbeed
I have yet to see any evidence that more people will awaken come 2012.
Sad, but true. I don't put put too much faith in these prophecies... most of them don't usually end up happening as they were said to.
Some prophecies while they may not be the end of the world ones also try to get your hopes up too much. I've listened to coast to coast and all of these people think that somehow we will enter a new dimension or we will awaken in 2012. I have yet to see proof that we will.
Originally posted by Chilkoot
the logical fallacies in your statement are staggering.
In the first place, you equate '2012ers' with religious nutters, who place their belief in (what you insinuate to be) the book of genesis. By attempting to associate those who disagree with you with the archetypal zealot you have attempted to construct a manipulative argumentative circumstance.
By invoking words like 'cult', 'religion', 'missionaries' and 'convert' you make very clear that you have no interest in any kind of discussion and wish only to spout nonsense, hoping that someone will either goad you into an argument or lose their composure over these irresponsible words.
Thirdly, you insist on an undefined "they". This tactic was thought to have gone out of fashion about the time of the red scare. You also insist that it is an issue of marketing, however those propogating the idea have little to gain financially from the idea. Sure, there's an oddball here or there who makes a buck writing a novel about it, but those that perpetuate it are the jon does here and at other alternative discussion sites who have a tendency to follow their curiosity.
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
2012 is like a religion. Think about it the way I think about it. People who believe in 2012 believe in it mindlessly. That takes faith. Sounds familiar? People who believe in religion also use faith to believe in religion. Hence methods that people who control religion are being employed by these 2012 fanatics to get you to believe in it.
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to post by 321BoomWeDead
The bible at face value shouldn't be taken as proof of anything. Much of what has been said in biblical times were an attempt to control the masses and to convert them to Christianity. I'm not disputing the religion here, but, a lot of that was said to control people.
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to post by sezsue
That's why I say that it plays off of people's faith... they're just trying to play off of your fear that the world is going to end.
It will end, just, not in the near future... so just enjoy life for the meantime.
Is that too hard to do?