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President Tries Closing Down Federal Reserve

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posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 03:28 PM
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"President Tries Closing Down Federal Reserve"

Yet Kennedy also signed a law in 1963 repealing the Silver Purchase Act and allowing the Fed to issue small denomination bills to replace outgoing silver certificates thus expanding the Fed's authority.

Interesting dichotomy there.




posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 03:48 PM
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I found this, which may help explain what Kennedy did.



To conserve the Treasury's silver needs, the Silver Purchase Act and related measures were repealed by Congress in 1963 with Public Law 88-36. Following the repeal, only the President could authorize new silver certificate issues, and no longer the Treasury Secretary. The law, signed by Kennedy himself, also permits the Federal Reserve to issue small denomination bills to replace the outgoing silver certificates (prior to the act, the Fed could only issue Federal Reserve Notes in larger denominations). The Treasury's shrinking silver stock could then be used to mint coins only and not have to back currency. The repeal left only the President with the authority to issue silver certificates, however it did permit him to delegate this authority. E.O. 11,110 does this by transferring the authority from the President to the Treasury
Secretary.2 (web.archive.org...://members.home.com/flaherty15/jfk.htm#2)


I suppose my one wish for the Obama Administration would be to have the President strike down the Federal Reserve and abolish them forever while bringing out a new currency backed by gold and silver. We could even expand our reserves with the mines we have in Nevada. The Federal Reserve Notes simply must not remain the currency of the American People.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 03:52 PM
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i had heard that jkohnson repealed this after 3 days in office while on an airplane---obviously i see that ,,,that is not true


but ,,,while this sounds all well and good read this.....
from:www.geocities.com...

E.O. 11,110 did not create authority to issue new silver certificates, it only affected who could give the order. The purpose of the order was to facilitate the reduction of certificates in circulation, not to increase them. In October 1964 the Treasury ceased issuing them entirely. The Coinage Act of 1965 (PL 89-81) ended the practice of using silver in most U.S. coins, and in 1968 Congress ended the redeemability of silver certificates (PL 90-29). E.O. 11,110 was never reversed by President Johnson and remained on the books until 1987 when there was a general cleaning-up of executive orders (E.O. 12,608, 9/9/87). However, by this time the remaining legislative authority behind E.O. 11,110 had been repealed by Congress with PL 97-258 in 1982.2

In summary, E.O. 11,110 did not create new authority to issue additional silver certificates. In fact, its intention was to ease the process for their removal so that small denomination Federal Reserve Notes could replace them in accordance with a law Kennedy himself signed. If Kennedy had really sought to reduce Federal Reserve power, then why did he sign a bill that gave the Fed still more power?


also,,,
To conserve the Treasury's silver needs, the Silver Purchase Act and related measures were repealed by Congress in 1963 with Public Law 88-36. Following the repeal, only the President could authorize new silver certificate issues, and no longer the Treasury Secretary. The law, signed by Kennedy himself, also permits the Federal Reserve to issue small denomination bills to replace the outgoing silver certificates (prior to the act, the Fed could only issue Federal Reserve Notes in larger denominations). The Treasury's shrinking silver stock could then be used to mint coins only and not have to back currency. The repeal left only the President with the authority to issue silver certificates, however it did permit him to delegate this authority. E.O. 11,110 does this by transferring the authority from the President to the Treasury Secretary.2



so while we all want to believe this and wish it were true,,,,,,not all is as it seems or is being told


and i would love to see the fed go bye bye,,,,i just reade a few more websites on this,,,,,,and some seem to make a great argument for him wanted to get rid of the fed,,,, or at least stop paying intertest on notes



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 03:54 PM
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I didn't see this thread and made my own...

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 04:02 PM
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Here is my older thread on this subject:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 04:35 PM
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Maybe this economic condition we are experiencing at present is a result of those in power turning the screws on us "bad slaves"....

I really am glad that Ron Paul decided to walk away from contention in this last election,he is no good to anyone dead,or maybe he was threatened....?....but because he is still alive,he can still keep trying to make people see.

President Kennedy was killed when I was 3 years old,I knew something very bad had happened even then,and it just keeps getting worse.

I wish more people could actually see,but most can't,they are blinded by the glare of all their glittery stuff,and drunkeness.

Bread and Circuses.
sorry if I meandered around a bit,I do that a lot.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 06:04 PM
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One thing I've been giving a lot of thought about regarding the end of the Federal Reserve is the new currency. Let's, for the moment put aside the talk of the Amero, because I think it's an idiotic-sounding currency name, and just discuss the next currency itself (because let's face it, if the Gov't continues down this road, we might just need to have this discussion nationally).

How long would it take to produce 1's, 5's, 10's, and 20's in this new currency? Well, let's think about it. We could tell everyone that we're going to be doing without change for a year (which would be hilarious considering Obama campaigned on "change") and we'll be rounding up or down on all prices. That allows us time to coin new change in the Philadelphia and Denver mints. We can also focus on 1's, 5's, and 20's to start off with. According to this site "there are 38 million pieces of paper money printed every day. About 45% of this production are $1 bills and 25% are $20 bills. The rest of the production is divided between $5, $10, $50, and $100 bills." That's fast, but how long would it take to make enough of the new currency to replace the old? This is assuming that the new currency already has the proper dies cast and would be ready to roll. I might even suggest bringing some of the old dies out of retirement and using those, with the new security features applied.

When I was stationed in Frankfurt, Germany, we went through the Mark to Euro conversion. For all of us, it happened relatively quickly. I'd say it took around three months before almost everything was swapped over. The grace period was a year I think, but functionally it was much faster than that. Credit Cards, and Debit cards could be swapped immediately because it's all electronic.

I have a feeling that this is something we all ought to be thinking about. If the Federal Reserve is cast out due to a complete economic crash, we might want to discuss options.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 06:28 PM
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I think that there is a lesson here.

That there is and always will be an appetite to create exactly what these banks are. You cannot get rid of them any more than you can excise black markets and gangsters.

Perhaps fighting them isn't the answer. Or at least not the complete one.

Perhaps the answer is to subjugate their intense desire to control money and people. Subjugate it to a greater task.

It should be obvious that you aren't going to get rid of them. The idea has happened. Destroying it hasn't worked. Ignoring it hasn't worked. Hoping that people will recognize the convulted problems it creates doesn't work.

You already know what their weak point is. They don't give a crap about anything except money and power. And Money. And more money.

So, what is money? Money is a way to track, trade and accumulate units of resources and work. Resources being humans (either in fact or in trade of skills), and the product of the work. Let us borrow from physics - Work is the transfer of energy. Money is a form of tallying the transfer of the energy of work on and by resources.

So, how do you use their singular focus against them to subjugate their work and skills?



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 06:32 PM
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Ever read the TESTIMONY OF JONATHAN MAY

www.vinesbranch.com...


or groups.google.co.uk...

It will give you a better idea of how Communistic Federal Reserve Banking Operates, and shows that the War on terror and the invasion of the Middle East like Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. have little to do with religious theology, but, are more to do with claiming and liquidating assets to repay Bank Debts.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 06:48 PM
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The Federal Reserve is just a Communistic way to collapse Capitalism and Christianity and Elohimite Nations, to restore Oligarchy from the Capitalist Middle class and return to a structure of rulers and menial labourors. The war on drugs and terror, and poverty and economics, etc. are just part of this system. read the Book on Psychopolitics, or Edward Bernays 1928 Book on Propoganda, look at the Congressional record's concerning the coup de' taut that was planned by the Bush and Hunt Families, on FDR using 2 time Purple Heart Medal of Honour and Brevet Medal of Bravery Winner, Major Snedley Butler. Look at the Assasination of Lincoln and Kennedy who both weeks before were actually working on Proposals to abolish the Federal Reserve. Look at FDR not only pardoning the traitorous families who planed to use half a million ets to kill and overthrow him and take control of the US, but, implemented their proposals into Law for the New deal creating the Federal Reserve and IRS (which collects taxes to send as payment to the Federal Reserve-- double taxing by district) Actually, I'm kind of sick of Representative Government, maybe Democratic Rule needs to replace it. America was not founded as a democracy, they say it is, but read the Constitution and Founding Papers, and the Pledge again. It is founded on the concept of Liberty not democracy, a republic, not a democracy. In fact, when democracy was mentioned, it is usually negative, claiming men give into their passions and bully minorities and so cannot have one voice one vote, but need representatives for the groups, who, if I'm not mistaken, are just as given to these self interests and passions, if not more so than the masses at large.

But, did you ever hear of Jonathan Mays?


Jonathan May formerly worked for the International Monetary Fund in
England. In the early 1980s he came to America with a plan to release
Americans from debt to the banking system by employing the same
"credit creating" system used by international banking. The law
governing this system is the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC). May was
initially successful. Eventually, however, he was targeted and
imprisoned by the banking system. He is now in a Federal prison in the
midwest. While in prison he was interviewed by Lindsey Williams via
phone. The following is the text of that interview.


"There are thirteen families which effectively control the central
banks of the hard currency countries of the world. The hard currency
countries are those whose currency is not allowed to fluctuate as much
as the other countries' currency fluctuates. These thirteen families
have the control of the policy-making and decision-making of the
central banks of
those countries. They all practice fractional reserve banking.


Fractional reserve banking has allowed the central banks to permit the
prime banks to lend up to twenty-six units of currency for every one
unit of currency they have on deposit. The owners andcontrollers of
the prime banks are the same people who own and control the central
banks.The initial final stage of System 2000 was put into effect in
the mid-seventies. System 2000 is the global creditors unilateral
totalitarian plan for the control of the world.


A Pentagon official and three other U.S. government officials went to
the Prime Minister of Nigeria. They paid him $50,000,000 to more than
double the price of body light crude oil. This is the crude oil of
Nigeria which is some of the most valuable crude oil in the world. At
the same time that the Prime Minister of Nigeria was being persuaded,
other Trilateral Commission members were in the Middle East persuading
the Middle East nations and England to consolidate OPEC. The deal cut
with the Middle East oil producers was that the oil buyers were
prepared
to pay significantly higher prices for oil if the Middle East nations
would invest the revenues in the big banks in America.


Sheik Yamani's nephew assured us that Sheik Yamani and other oil
min-isters did not know until late in the seventies or in the eighties
that the controlling interest of the prime banks is held by the same
people who have the controlling interest in the major oil companies.
They control through a joint stock trust which was set up by the
original Rockefellers here in America in 1870. This was three years
before the United States government declared joint stock trusts
illegal in 1873. It is this entity which is the ultimate controlling
factor in America of the prime banks, the Federal Reserve, the major
oil companies, and many other multi-nationals. This trust is in joint
control of the Rockefeller Foundation and their European interest.


The deal cut with the Saudis, the Kuwaitis, and the middle eastern
peoples was that they were to put their money in the prime banks in
America. They did not know that the prime banks were able to lend
twenty to one. All they were to receive was the interest on the money
they deposited for between ten to thirty years. They were to receive
the principal at the end of the term.


Because they had locked-in deposits from the Middle Eastern nations,
the banks were able to make loans to the Third World nations. The
banks relied on the greed of those ministers of those Third World
nations to mis-handle the money. Over the years, that manipulated
greed has caused those countries to be in the bankrupt position they
are in today.


In 1981, I found out that the Hunt brothers of Texas and John
Conley,the Governor of Texas, who was also the Under Secretary of the
Treasury, hadsecretly tried to implement a new currency for Texas.
They could legally dothis because Texas is only a part of the United
States by treaty. Thistreaty is automatically renewed every year. It
has become a tradition, obviously, that it is renewed every year
because it is not actually, physically, renewed every year. This made
it possible for Texas to create its own money.


The Hunts were in partnership with the Shah of Iran, a German bank,
and an Austrian bank. The Hunts made one mistake. They were buying and
sell-ing silver irresponsibly. They had one man doing both buying and
selling on the same floors in all the exchanges. Wor got out and the
result was that the German banker was murdered, the Ausrtrian banker
was so badly beaten that he will never get out of a mental
institution, and the Hunts are virtually bank-rupt today. The Hunts
had sixteen billions
in worth at the time. The Shah was perfectly healthy when he left
Iran. He was only declared sick when he arrived in America. He was
held in "protective custody" in military bases where he was treated
and became progressively worse and ultimately was shipped off to die.


In 1983, we became aware of the fact that a group of very, very quiet
bank holding companies were extending credit wherever they felt like
it, under whatever terms they felt like. They are authorized under
Regulation Y, Section 225.4 of the United States Code to extend this
credit. Those companies were receiving loans from the prime banks.
With this money they were buying foreclosed real property and
businesses with bricks and mortar from liquidations, foreclosures and
bankruptcies.
These were bussinesses which were affected by FDIC and FSLIC
foreclosures. We could not understand this, and between 1983 and 1985
we researched it and still could not understand it.


Then we found the answer in 1985 when we were approached by an
emissary from President Marcos of the Philippines and President
Saharte and others from Indonesia. They had a severe problem. Their
problem was that, having borrowed all the money that they had
borrowed, they now needed more money. The only way that the
International Monetary Fund was prepared to lend them more money was
if they would do three things:


1. Eliminate their own currencies and become Dollar denominated. This
would eliminate cash altogether.


2. If they would go to a unilateral centralized credit card system.
This was to be a part of their Social Security system, part of their
identity system whereby everybody in the country would have a Social
Security number which would be synonymous with a credit card number.
Their Central Bank was to act as the wholesaler for credit which was
extended to it by the new super bank. This was announced by Paul
Volker on the 27th of October, 1985.


3. In order to help the economies of those countries, the
International Monetary Fund was going to nominate external non-
domestic corporations to properly engineer, exploit and excavate the
minerals from those countries in return for PERPETUAL ROYALTIES.


This excavation would bring prosperity to the nation. Marcos was sharp
enough to pick up on the word PERPETUAL, and realized he would be
signing away the sovereignty of his nation. He was not prepared to do
this. Marcos approached us through his emissary, Colonel Christopher
Banis. We were aware of this offer made by
the International Monetary Fund through our connections in London who
are close to Sir Jeffrey Howe. If they agreed to the International
Monetary Fund's terms and conditions, they were to have their existing
debts forgiven, absolutely. New lines of credit were to be extended to
them and the new lines of credit were to be under better terms and
conditions.


When we heard the term PERPETUAL, and when we heard the words "Totally
forgiven", we immediately began to recognize what was
happening.Another group of holding companies was operating with the
previous group of holding companies. The second group of holding
companies was receiving credit from the first group to purchase assets
and liabilities from the prime banks. The only liabilities they were
purchasing were the liabilities represented by the deposits of the
Arab nations. The only
assets they were buying were the assets represented by the loans made
to some of the debtor nations.


It then became clear, through our own people in the Trilateral
Com-mission, that the forgiveness of the Third World debts would
eliminate the assets which were being purchased by this second group
of holding companies. This left them only with the liabilities that
were owed to the Middle East nations and being serviced by the prime
banks.The Arab nations had no idea that these liabilities were now
owed by the holding companies and that the debtor nations had stopped
paying the prime banks. The prime banks' and holding companies'
arrangements were that the prime banks were to act as servicing agents
for the holding
companies so that the Third World nations would not know that the
holding companies were owed the money.


The effect of the elimination of the assets of the second group of
holding companies is threefold:


1. The holding companies would be insolvent and would legally be able
to declare themselves insolvent.


2. They could legally and legitimately avoid payment to the Middle
Eastern Nations.


3. The Middle Eastern Arab nations will have to liquidate all their
other assets.


These assets are represented by U.S. corporate ownership
and many billions of dollars worth of U.S. stock. The effect of the
Saudis and Kuwaitis and the Middle Eastern people's sale of even 25%
of their total holdings on the U.S. market would be absolutely chaotic
in terms of the stock market, real estate and everything else.The
catastrophic effect has been designed to throw the American stock
market, the American corporations, the American real estate, and
people in general into a state of confusion. The plan is that this
state of con-fusion will begreated with the salvation of the
benevolent bankers on three fronts:


1. They propose to eliminate cash because of the collapse.


2. Stop drug trafficking because the drug traffickers would now have
no money to use.


3. Stop tax cheating.


NOBODY CAN ARGUE WITH ANY OF THESE REASONS. It is at this point that
they intend to implement a mandatory credit card identity Social
Security government. There will be an I.D. card
which will be satellite linked through the "Star Wars program".
Only 40% of "Star Wars" has anything to do with defense. 60% is
designed for transmission of banking information instantaneously to
the central banks which will be the super banks into which all the
major banks of the world will be linked. The super bank is to be the
wholesaler and the prime banks are to be the retailers in the foreign
countries that have capitulated to the International Monetary Fund's
program.


It inly takes 5% of the total debtor nations to equal all of the
deposits of the Saudis that are in the banks. The reason for this is
the twenty-to-one ratio of fractional reserve banking. In works in
contrary reverse. It doesn't take many nations to agree to the
International Mon-etary Fund's proposal for the total volume of money
owed to equal the total volume of money on deposit from the Saudis.
Twenty debtor nations have already agreed to the International
Monetary Fund's proposal.The resultant collapse of the second group of
holding companies will
precipitate the Saudis' and Kuwaitis' liquidation of assets.


When the second group of holding companies are unable to pay the
private group of bank holding companies the money they owe them from
the credit extended to them to buy the assets and liabilities, it will
precip-itate those bank holding companies inability to pay the loans
extended to them by the prime banks to buy the foreclosed land which
was used as collateral to secure those loans. Ultimately, the prime
banks will end up with all the properties.


President Garcia of Peru announced in February of this year that they
were absolutely not going to pay the International Monetary Fund.
Rockefeller himself went to Peru in February of 1986. Rockeffeler
personally made the offer to Garcia of the three-point proposal which
was mentioned earlier. Garcia told David that if he wasn't out of the
country in twenty-four hours that he would have him arrested for
racketeering.


You will see the foreclosures on real property in America stepped up
drastically by the FDIC and FSLIC. They are using gangsteristic
tactics to achieve their objective for their masters.


Since the advent of the manipulation of the oil producing countries to
sell all their oil in U.S. dollars, the entire world trade is now
denom-inated in U.S. dollars because of the volitility of all the
other currencies. The entire trading volume of the world will be
totally and absolutely beholden to the super banks. When System 2000
is put into effect, the super banks will be the only source of "U.S.
Dollars" credit. There will be no cash."


John Galt says 'FOLLOW THE HUNT FAMILY OF TEXAS'


thirteen families effectively control the central banks
by slave Monday, Apr. 10, 2006 at 8:52 PM
NEW WORLD ORDER


thirteen families effectively control the central banks of all the
hard-currency countries. These "control banks" all practice FRACTIONAL
RESERVE BANKING, which is perfectly legal in the US. Fractional
reserve banking means that the bank is only required to hold on hand
the small fraction of money (5%) that is needed to cover the fraction
of deposits likely to be drawn upon and cashed. Moneys deposited in
accounts go into a reserve upon which credit can be issued. In the US
credit can be issued to seven times the reserve, in international
banks (off shore establishments) twenty times the reserve can be
issued as credit. It is imp[ortant to understand this concept in order
to understand the larger picture.


In the mid 1970s, the final phase of System 2000, a "global creditors'
unilateral totalitarian plan" was put into effect. A Pentagon official
and three other US officials went to the Prime Minister of Nigeria and
offered him fifty million dollars in cash to double the price of light
crude oil. Nigeria is one of only two countries in the world that
produce light crude, which is an extremely pure form of oil whose
price sets the standard for all other forms of crude oil.


Armed with the knowledge that, because of their deal with Nigeria, the
price of Mid-east oil was about the skyrocket, the international
bankers went to the Arabs and said, "We will send the price of crude
oil as high as you want if you will promise to invest some of the
money you make in the United States."


Nigeria doubled the price of light crude, the price of oil from the
Mid-east went up and the price of a gallon of gasoline in the United
States jumped to $1.20. (My note: In Italy, where I was living at the
time, it was costing $1 a LITRE after the oil price was sent through
the roof.) Unwittingly, Americans began to finance System 2000 with
every tank of gas they bought.


As the money began to pour into the Arabian countries, the sheiks
fulfilled their promise to invest in the U.S. and began buying stocks,
bonds, and real estate. More importantly, they put their money into
thirty-year timed certificates (drawn up by the international
bankers). Remember that Arabs went from camel-riding nomads to wealthy
international investors in a very short period of time and they had no
grasp of how the banking system worked; in particular, they did not
know about the concept of fractional reserve banking.


The international bankers now had millions of dollars locked into
timed deposits, and they took that money and loaned out TWENTY TIMES
AS MUCH. In 1983, the international bankers created two groups of
holding companies to handle all this Arab money. One of the groups
took the funds coming in from the Arabs and loaned it out to Third
World countries. The purpose of the holding companies, as you will see
later, was to remove the responsibility for the money from the banks
to a less accountable entity.


The international bankers were aware of the fact that most of the
Third World countries knew nothing about running a country or
allocating funds. Most had been colonies of some other nation and had
only recently begun to govern themselves. The bankers were counting on
the Third World countries to squander their money in a short time.
They fully intended for these countries to go bankrupt and to be
unable to pay back their loans.


The Phillipines is one example of what happened to Third World
countries in the next stage of the plan. The international bankers
went to President Marcos and presented him with a way out of the
enormous debt his country faced. They said, "We will forgive your
loans - you'll have to pay none of the principal, none of the interest
- if you will just sign this agreement: 1) do away with its national
currency, 2) go to a debit-card system where each person is assigned a
number and his purchases are debited from his account on a
computerised system and 3) sign over perpetual rights to all natural
resources in the country.


The offer was tempting since it would put much of the labor force back
to work and solve many of the country's economic problems. But Marcos
realised that becasue of the word "perpetual", he was virtually giving
away the sovereignty of his country. He refused to sign the agreement.
Weeks later he wass deposed and his country was torn apart by riots
which Jonathon May says were incited by the internal bankers.


Other countries decided to accept the agreement when it was offered to
them. Recently Brasil, Argentina and other nations have announced that
they do not plan to pay back their loans. They failed to mention that
the loans had been excused in exchange for the rights to their natural
resources.


At this point all the dominoes are in place and the international
bankers are ready and waiting for their opportunity to topple them.


HERE IS THE PLAN. When enough of the Third World nations sign the
agreement, saying they are not going to repay the loans they received
from the holding company, the international bankers can declare the
holding company insolvent. (This is where it becomes apparent why the
money was put in holding companies instead of in banks. The holding
companies were designed to go bankrupt.! Chase Manhattan or Chemical
Bank would not have to be sacrified since there were not responsible
for the loans.)


Once the holding companie is declared bankrupt, they can legally avoid
payment to the Arab nations. The international bankers will say,
"Sorry, Arabs. We lost your money. You are broke!" When the Arab
nations realise that all their money is gone, they will immediately
liquidate all of their other assets. They will dump billions and
billions of stocks and Wall Street will collapse. They will put all of
their farmland and real estate on the market and land values will
plummet. Farmers will have no collateral to borrow against to plant
next year's crops and food will become scarce in the grocery stores.


The effect this will have on the American economy will be chaotic.
This catastrophic collapse has been purposely designed to throw the
American people into a state of confusion. Then the benevolent bankers
will step forward saying, "Look what these dirty Arabs have done to
you!" and offer a solution to our problems.


Their solution will be to abolish our currency and institute a new
form of money. Each person then would be issued a government ID number
and would need a debit card to do any business transactions.


Perhaps the biggest shock in May's story is that the "Star Wars"
system is only 40% concerned with defense and 60% concerned with
banking! These "Star Wars" satellites would link the debit system to a
central computer base - a superbank. Transfer of funds between
accounts would be instantaneous and the internal bankers would finally
have complete financial control. May says the debate over "Star Wars"
is all show because the satellites are already in place!


(snip)


Perhaps the best defense the international bankers have against
protesters is influencing the publics' opinion through the media!!! In
his book, "The Naked Capitalist" Cleon Skousen says that, "Nothing
panics the international establishment like the possibility of a
threatened exposure. Whenever the public has become dangerously aware
of the conspiratorial processes operating around them, the vast inter-
locking power structure of the entire London-Wall Street combine has
immediately shifted into high gear and raced to the rescue. Radio, TV,
newspaper, magazines, government policy makers, college officials and
other opinion molders in high places have all commenced a recitation
of a carefully prepared line designed to pacify the public and put
them back to sleep".


Who actually controls the Federal Reserve? Who are the stockholders of
this private corporation? In a legislative session regarding
abolishing the Fed, the following eight family banks were named as the
owners of the Federal Reserve:


Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin
Lazares Brothers Banks of Paris
Israel Moses Seif Bank of Italy
Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam
Lehman Brothers Bank of New York
Chase Manhattan Bank of New York
Kuhn, Loeb Bank of New York
Goldman, Sachs Bank of New York.


In his book, "To Seduce a Nation" Lindsey Williams lists the same 8
banks.





posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 06:59 PM
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ya not sure how accurate this story is but it seems to make sense.....i wonder if JFK messed with the PTB that use isreal as well.......either one would get him off'ed . I remember reading a book , perhaps it was "behold a pale horse" which said that a friend of JFK's said that John had some sort of spiritual epiphany and then started getting a bit off track from what his "handlers wanted him to do" .....remember that speech of his about secret society's ( even though there is debate as to where that took place.......that was a freak'n gem.....and must have had the international PTB .....callin up the assasins on speed dial

my copy and paste doesn't seem to work on my friends comp. just go to youtube and type in JFK secrect society speech



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 07:00 PM
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The MidEast War and the War on Drugs and Johnsons War on Poverty and Economics and FDR' New Deal, sponsored by the traitorous Bush and Hunt Families, and others, who planned on using Propoganda such as Edaward Bernays lays out in his 1928 Book: Propoganda, to further Communist objectives through the Federal Reserve to destroy Christianity and Capitalism to restore the Oligarchy Dictatorship Globally, sas per the Russian Book's on Psycho Politic's, call be seen in the Assasinations of Lincoln and JFK weeks after each began working on Proposals to legally abolish the Federal Reserve, and the discrediting and death of all who interfere.

Legthy read, but, insightful to the subject:


TESTIMONY OF JONATHAN MAY

www.vinesbranch.com...


Jonathan May formerly worked for the International Monetary Fund in
England. In the early 1980s he came to America with a plan to release
Americans from debt to the banking system by employing the same
"credit creating" system used by international banking. The law
governing this system is the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC). May was
initially successful. Eventually, however, he was targeted and
imprisoned by the banking system. He is now in a Federal prison in the
midwest. While in prison he was interviewed by Lindsey Williams via
phone. The following is the text of that interview.


"There are thirteen families which effectively control the central
banks of the hard currency countries of the world. The hard currency
countries are those whose currency is not allowed to fluctuate as much
as the other countries' currency fluctuates. These thirteen families
have the control of the policy-making and decision-making of the
central banks of
those countries. They all practice fractional reserve banking.


Fractional reserve banking has allowed the central banks to permit the
prime banks to lend up to twenty-six units of currency for every one
unit of currency they have on deposit. The owners andcontrollers of
the prime banks are the same people who own and control the central
banks.The initial final stage of System 2000 was put into effect in
the mid-seventies. System 2000 is the global creditors unilateral
totalitarian plan for the control of the world.


A Pentagon official and three other U.S. government officials went to
the Prime Minister of Nigeria. They paid him $50,000,000 to more than
double the price of body light crude oil. This is the crude oil of
Nigeria which is some of the most valuable crude oil in the world. At
the same time that the Prime Minister of Nigeria was being persuaded,
other Trilateral Commission members were in the Middle East persuading
the Middle East nations and England to consolidate OPEC. The deal cut
with the Middle East oil producers was that the oil buyers were
prepared
to pay significantly higher prices for oil if the Middle East nations
would invest the revenues in the big banks in America.


Sheik Yamani's nephew assured us that Sheik Yamani and other oil
min-isters did not know until late in the seventies or in the eighties
that the controlling interest of the prime banks is held by the same
people who have the controlling interest in the major oil companies.
They control through a joint stock trust which was set up by the
original Rockefellers here in America in 1870. This was three years
before the United States government declared joint stock trusts
illegal in 1873. It is this entity which is the ultimate controlling
factor in America of the prime banks, the Federal Reserve, the major
oil companies, and many other multi-nationals. This trust is in joint
control of the Rockefeller Foundation and their European interest.


The deal cut with the Saudis, the Kuwaitis, and the middle eastern
peoples was that they were to put their money in the prime banks in
America. They did not know that the prime banks were able to lend
twenty to one. All they were to receive was the interest on the money
they deposited for between ten to thirty years. They were to receive
the principal at the end of the term.


Because they had locked-in deposits from the Middle Eastern nations,
the banks were able to make loans to the Third World nations. The
banks relied on the greed of those ministers of those Third World
nations to mis-handle the money. Over the years, that manipulated
greed has caused those countries to be in the bankrupt position they
are in today.


In 1981, I found out that the Hunt brothers of Texas and John
Conley,the Governor of Texas, who was also the Under Secretary of the
Treasury, hadsecretly tried to implement a new currency for Texas.
They could legally dothis because Texas is only a part of the United
States by treaty. Thistreaty is automatically renewed every year. It
has become a tradition, obviously, that it is renewed every year
because it is not actually, physically, renewed every year. This made
it possible for Texas to create its own money.


The Hunts were in partnership with the Shah of Iran, a German bank,
and an Austrian bank. The Hunts made one mistake. They were buying and
sell-ing silver irresponsibly. They had one man doing both buying and
selling on the same floors in all the exchanges. Wor got out and the
result was that the German banker was murdered, the Ausrtrian banker
was so badly beaten that he will never get out of a mental
institution, and the Hunts are virtually bank-rupt today. The Hunts
had sixteen billions
in worth at the time. The Shah was perfectly healthy when he left
Iran. He was only declared sick when he arrived in America. He was
held in "protective custody" in military bases where he was treated
and became progressively worse and ultimately was shipped off to die.


In 1983, we became aware of the fact that a group of very, very quiet
bank holding companies were extending credit wherever they felt like
it, under whatever terms they felt like. They are authorized under
Regulation Y, Section 225.4 of the United States Code to extend this
credit. Those companies were receiving loans from the prime banks.
With this money they were buying foreclosed real property and
businesses with bricks and mortar from liquidations, foreclosures and
bankruptcies.
These were bussinesses which were affected by FDIC and FSLIC
foreclosures. We could not understand this, and between 1983 and 1985
we researched it and still could not understand it.


Then we found the answer in 1985 when we were approached by an
emissary from President Marcos of the Philippines and President
Saharte and others from Indonesia. They had a severe problem. Their
problem was that, having borrowed all the money that they had
borrowed, they now needed more money. The only way that the
International Monetary Fund was prepared to lend them more money was
if they would do three things:


1. Eliminate their own currencies and become Dollar denominated. This
would eliminate cash altogether.


2. If they would go to a unilateral centralized credit card system.
This was to be a part of their Social Security system, part of their
identity system whereby everybody in the country would have a Social
Security number which would be synonymous with a credit card number.
Their Central Bank was to act as the wholesaler for credit which was
extended to it by the new super bank. This was announced by Paul
Volker on the 27th of October, 1985.


3. In order to help the economies of those countries, the
International Monetary Fund was going to nominate external non-
domestic corporations to properly engineer, exploit and excavate the
minerals from those countries in return for PERPETUAL ROYALTIES.


This excavation would bring prosperity to the nation. Marcos was sharp
enough to pick up on the word PERPETUAL, and realized he would be
signing away the sovereignty of his nation. He was not prepared to do
this. Marcos approached us through his emissary, Colonel Christopher
Banis. We were aware of this offer made by
the International Monetary Fund through our connections in London who
are close to Sir Jeffrey Howe. If they agreed to the International
Monetary Fund's terms and conditions, they were to have their existing
debts forgiven, absolutely. New lines of credit were to be extended to
them and the new lines of credit were to be under better terms and
conditions.


When we heard the term PERPETUAL, and when we heard the words "Totally
forgiven", we immediately began to recognize what was
happening.Another group of holding companies was operating with the
previous group of holding companies. The second group of holding
companies was receiving credit from the first group to purchase assets
and liabilities from the prime banks. The only liabilities they were
purchasing were the liabilities represented by the deposits of the
Arab nations. The only
assets they were buying were the assets represented by the loans made
to some of the debtor nations.


It then became clear, through our own people in the Trilateral
Com-mission, that the forgiveness of the Third World debts would
eliminate the assets which were being purchased by this second group
of holding companies. This left them only with the liabilities that
were owed to the Middle East nations and being serviced by the prime
banks.The Arab nations had no idea that these liabilities were now
owed by the holding companies and that the debtor nations had stopped
paying the prime banks. The prime banks' and holding companies'
arrangements were that the prime banks were to act as servicing agents
for the holding
companies so that the Third World nations would not know that the
holding companies were owed the money.


The effect of the elimination of the assets of the second group of
holding companies is threefold:


1. The holding companies would be insolvent and would legally be able
to declare themselves insolvent.


2. They could legally and legitimately avoid payment to the Middle
Eastern Nations.


3. The Middle Eastern Arab nations will have to liquidate all their
other assets.


These assets are represented by U.S. corporate ownership
and many billions of dollars worth of U.S. stock. The effect of the
Saudis and Kuwaitis and the Middle Eastern people's sale of even 25%
of their total holdings on the U.S. market would be absolutely chaotic
in terms of the stock market, real estate and everything else.The
catastrophic effect has been designed to throw the American stock
market, the American corporations, the American real estate, and
people in general into a state of confusion. The plan is that this
state of con-fusion will begreated with the salvation of the
benevolent bankers on three fronts:


1. They propose to eliminate cash because of the collapse.


2. Stop drug trafficking because the drug traffickers would now have
no money to use.


3. Stop tax cheating.


NOBODY CAN ARGUE WITH ANY OF THESE REASONS. It is at this point that
they intend to implement a mandatory credit card identity Social
Security government. There will be an I.D. card
which will be satellite linked through the "Star Wars program".
Only 40% of "Star Wars" has anything to do with defense. 60% is
designed for transmission of banking information instantaneously to
the central banks which will be the super banks into which all the
major banks of the world will be linked. The super bank is to be the
wholesaler and the prime banks are to be the retailers in the foreign
countries that have capitulated to the International Monetary Fund's
program.


It inly takes 5% of the total debtor nations to equal all of the
deposits of the Saudis that are in the banks. The reason for this is
the twenty-to-one ratio of fractional reserve banking. In works in
contrary reverse. It doesn't take many nations to agree to the
International Mon-etary Fund's proposal for the total volume of money
owed to equal the total volume of money on deposit from the Saudis.
Twenty debtor nations have already agreed to the International
Monetary Fund's proposal.The resultant collapse of the second group of
holding companies will
precipitate the Saudis' and Kuwaitis' liquidation of assets.


When the second group of holding companies are unable to pay the
private group of bank holding companies the money they owe them from
the credit extended to them to buy the assets and liabilities, it will
precip-itate those bank holding companies inability to pay the loans
extended to them by the prime banks to buy the foreclosed land which
was used as collateral to secure those loans. Ultimately, the prime
banks will end up with all the properties.


President Garcia of Peru announced in February of this year that they
were absolutely not going to pay the International Monetary Fund.
Rockefeller himself went to Peru in February of 1986. Rockeffeler
personally made the offer to Garcia of the three-point proposal which
was mentioned earlier. Garcia told David that if he wasn't out of the
country in twenty-four hours that he would have him arrested for
racketeering.


You will see the foreclosures on real property in America stepped up
drastically by the FDIC and FSLIC. They are using gangsteristic
tactics to achieve their objective for their masters.


Since the advent of the manipulation of the oil producing countries to
sell all their oil in U.S. dollars, the entire world trade is now
denom-inated in U.S. dollars because of the volitility of all the
other currencies. The entire trading volume of the world will be
totally and absolutely beholden to the super banks. When System 2000
is put into effect, the super banks will be the only source of "U.S.
Dollars" credit. There will be no cash."


John Galt says 'FOLLOW THE HUNT FAMILY OF TEXAS'


thirteen families effectively control the central banks
by slave Monday, Apr. 10, 2006 at 8:52 PM
NEW WORLD ORDER


thirteen families effectively control the central banks of all the
hard-currency countries. These "control banks" all practice FRACTIONAL
RESERVE BANKING, which is perfectly legal in the US. Fractional
reserve banking means that the bank is only required to hold on hand
the small fraction of money (5%) that is needed to cover the fraction
of deposits likely to be drawn upon and cashed. Moneys deposited in
accounts go into a reserve upon which credit can be issued. In the US
credit can be issued to seven times the reserve, in international
banks (off shore establishments) twenty times the reserve can be
issued as credit. It is imp[ortant to understand this concept in order
to understand the larger picture.


In the mid 1970s, the final phase of System 2000, a "global creditors'
unilateral totalitarian plan" was put into effect. A Pentagon official
and three other US officials went to the Prime Minister of Nigeria and
offered him fifty million dollars in cash to double the price of light
crude oil. Nigeria is one of only two countries in the world that
produce light crude, which is an extremely pure form of oil whose
price sets the standard for all other forms of crude oil.


Armed with the knowledge that, because of their deal with Nigeria, the
price of Mid-east oil was about the skyrocket, the international
bankers went to the Arabs and said, "We will send the price of crude
oil as high as you want if you will promise to invest some of the
money you make in the United States."


Nigeria doubled the price of light crude, the price of oil from the
Mid-east went up and the price of a gallon of gasoline in the United
States jumped to $1.20. (My note: In Italy, where I was living at the
time, it was costing $1 a LITRE after the oil price was sent through
the roof.) Unwittingly, Americans began to finance System 2000 with
every tank of gas they bought.


As the money began to pour into the Arabian countries, the sheiks
fulfilled their promise to invest in the U.S. and began buying stocks,
bonds, and real estate. More importantly, they put their money into
thirty-year timed certificates (drawn up by the international
bankers). Remember that Arabs went from camel-riding nomads to wealthy
international investors in a very short period of time and they had no
grasp of how the banking system worked; in particular, they did not
know about the concept of fractional reserve banking.


The international bankers now had millions of dollars locked into
timed deposits, and they took that money and loaned out TWENTY TIMES
AS MUCH. In 1983, the international bankers created two groups of
holding companies to handle all this Arab money. One of the groups
took the funds coming in from the Arabs and loaned it out to Third
World countries. The purpose of the holding companies, as you will see
later, was to remove the responsibility for the money from the banks
to a less accountable entity.


The international bankers were aware of the fact that most of the
Third World countries knew nothing about running a country or
allocating funds. Most had been colonies of some other nation and had
only recently begun to govern themselves. The bankers were counting on
the Third World countries to squander their money in a short time.
They fully intended for these countries to go bankrupt and to be
unable to pay back their loans.


The Phillipines is one example of what happened to Third World
countries in the next stage of the plan. The international bankers
went to President Marcos and presented him with a way out of the
enormous debt his country faced. They said, "We will forgive your
loans - you'll have to pay none of the principal, none of the interest
- if you will just sign this agreement: 1) do away with its national
currency, 2) go to a debit-card system where each person is assigned a
number and his purchases are debited from his account on a
computerised system and 3) sign over perpetual rights to all natural
resources in the country.


The offer was tempting since it would put much of the labor force back
to work and solve many of the country's economic problems. But Marcos
realised that becasue of the word "perpetual", he was virtually giving
away the sovereignty of his country. He refused to sign the agreement.
Weeks later he wass deposed and his country was torn apart by riots
which Jonathon May says were incited by the internal bankers.


Other countries decided to accept the agreement when it was offered to
them. Recently Brasil, Argentina and other nations have announced that
they do not plan to pay back their loans. They failed to mention that
the loans had been excused in exchange for the rights to their natural
resources.


At this point all the dominoes are in place and the international
bankers are ready and waiting for their opportunity to topple them.


HERE IS THE PLAN. When enough of the Third World nations sign the
agreement, saying they are not going to repay the loans they received
from the holding company, the international bankers can declare the
holding company insolvent. (This is where it becomes apparent why the
money was put in holding companies instead of in banks. The holding
companies were designed to go bankrupt.! Chase Manhattan or Chemical
Bank would not have to be sacrified since there were not responsible
for the loans.)


Once the holding companie is declared bankrupt, they can legally avoid
payment to the Arab nations. The international bankers will say,
"Sorry, Arabs. We lost your money. You are broke!" When the Arab
nations realise that all their money is gone, they will immediately
liquidate all of their other assets. They will dump billions and
billions of stocks and Wall Street will collapse. They will put all of
their farmland and real estate on the market and land values will
plummet. Farmers will have no collateral to borrow against to plant
next year's crops and food will become scarce in the grocery stores.


The effect this will have on the American economy will be chaotic.
This catastrophic collapse has been purposely designed to throw the
American people into a state of confusion. Then the benevolent bankers
will step forward saying, "Look what these dirty Arabs have done to
you!" and offer a solution to our problems.


Their solution will be to abolish our currency and institute a new
form of money. Each person then would be issued a government ID number
and would need a debit card to do any business transactions.


Perhaps the biggest shock in May's story is that the "Star Wars"
system is only 40% concerned with defense and 60% concerned with
banking! These "Star Wars" satellites would link the debit system to a
central computer base - a superbank. Transfer of funds between
accounts would be instantaneous and the internal bankers would finally
have complete financial control. May says the debate over "Star Wars"
is all show because the satellites are already in place!


(snip)


Perhaps the best defense the international bankers have against
protesters is influencing the publics' opinion through the media!!! In
his book, "The Naked Capitalist" Cleon Skousen says that, "Nothing
panics the international establishment like the possibility of a
threatened exposure. Whenever the public has become dangerously aware
of the conspiratorial processes operating around them, the vast inter-
locking power structure of the entire London-Wall Street combine has
immediately shifted into high gear and raced to the rescue. Radio, TV,
newspaper, magazines, government policy makers, college officials and
other opinion molders in high places have all commenced a recitation
of a carefully prepared line designed to pacify the public and put
them back to sleep".


Who actually controls the Federal Reserve? Who are the stockholders of
this private corporation? In a legislative session regarding
abolishing the Fed, the following eight family banks were named as the
owners of the Federal Reserve:


Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin
Lazares Brothers Banks of Paris
Israel Moses Seif Bank of Italy
Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam
Lehman Brothers Bank of New York
Chase Manhattan Bank of New York
Kuhn, Loeb Bank of New York
Goldman, Sachs Bank of New York.


In his book, "To Seduce a Nation" Lindsey Williams lists the same 8
banks.





posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 07:09 PM
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TESTIMONY OF JONATHAN MAY

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Jonathan May formerly worked for the International Monetary Fund in
England. In the early 1980s he came to America with a plan to release
Americans from debt to the banking system by employing the same
"credit creating" system used by international banking. The law
governing this system is the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC). May was
initially successful. Eventually, however, he was targeted and
imprisoned by the banking system. He is now in a Federal prison in the
midwest. While in prison he was interviewed by Lindsey Williams via
phone. The following is the text of that interview.


"There are thirteen families which effectively control the central
banks of the hard currency countries of the world. The hard currency
countries are those whose currency is not allowed to fluctuate as much
as the other countries' currency fluctuates. These thirteen families
have the control of the policy-making and decision-making of the
central banks of
those countries. They all practice fractional reserve banking.


Fractional reserve banking has allowed the central banks to permit the
prime banks to lend up to twenty-six units of currency for every one
unit of currency they have on deposit. The owners andcontrollers of
the prime banks are the same people who own and control the central
banks.The initial final stage of System 2000 was put into effect in
the mid-seventies. System 2000 is the global creditors unilateral
totalitarian plan for the control of the world.


A Pentagon official and three other U.S. government officials went to
the Prime Minister of Nigeria. They paid him $50,000,000 to more than
double the price of body light crude oil. This is the crude oil of
Nigeria which is some of the most valuable crude oil in the world. At
the same time that the Prime Minister of Nigeria was being persuaded,
other Trilateral Commission members were in the Middle East persuading
the Middle East nations and England to consolidate OPEC. The deal cut
with the Middle East oil producers was that the oil buyers were
prepared
to pay significantly higher prices for oil if the Middle East nations
would invest the revenues in the big banks in America.


Sheik Yamani's nephew assured us that Sheik Yamani and other oil
min-isters did not know until late in the seventies or in the eighties
that the controlling interest of the prime banks is held by the same
people who have the controlling interest in the major oil companies.
They control through a joint stock trust which was set up by the
original Rockefellers here in America in 1870. This was three years
before the United States government declared joint stock trusts
illegal in 1873. It is this entity which is the ultimate controlling
factor in America of the prime banks, the Federal Reserve, the major
oil companies, and many other multi-nationals. This trust is in joint
control of the Rockefeller Foundation and their European interest.


The deal cut with the Saudis, the Kuwaitis, and the middle eastern
peoples was that they were to put their money in the prime banks in
America. They did not know that the prime banks were able to lend
twenty to one. All they were to receive was the interest on the money
they deposited for between ten to thirty years. They were to receive
the principal at the end of the term.


Because they had locked-in deposits from the Middle Eastern nations,
the banks were able to make loans to the Third World nations. The
banks relied on the greed of those ministers of those Third World
nations to mis-handle the money. Over the years, that manipulated
greed has caused those countries to be in the bankrupt position they
are in today.


In 1981, I found out that the Hunt brothers of Texas and John
Conley,the Governor of Texas, who was also the Under Secretary of the
Treasury, hadsecretly tried to implement a new currency for Texas.
They could legally dothis because Texas is only a part of the United
States by treaty. Thistreaty is automatically renewed every year. It
has become a tradition, obviously, that it is renewed every year
because it is not actually, physically, renewed every year. This made
it possible for Texas to create its own money.


The Hunts were in partnership with the Shah of Iran, a German bank,
and an Austrian bank. The Hunts made one mistake. They were buying and
sell-ing silver irresponsibly. They had one man doing both buying and
selling on the same floors in all the exchanges. Wor got out and the
result was that the German banker was murdered, the Ausrtrian banker
was so badly beaten that he will never get out of a mental
institution, and the Hunts are virtually bank-rupt today. The Hunts
had sixteen billions
in worth at the time. The Shah was perfectly healthy when he left
Iran. He was only declared sick when he arrived in America. He was
held in "protective custody" in military bases where he was treated
and became progressively worse and ultimately was shipped off to die.


In 1983, we became aware of the fact that a group of very, very quiet
bank holding companies were extending credit wherever they felt like
it, under whatever terms they felt like. They are authorized under
Regulation Y, Section 225.4 of the United States Code to extend this
credit. Those companies were receiving loans from the prime banks.
With this money they were buying foreclosed real property and
businesses with bricks and mortar from liquidations, foreclosures and
bankruptcies.
These were bussinesses which were affected by FDIC and FSLIC
foreclosures. We could not understand this, and between 1983 and 1985
we researched it and still could not understand it.


Then we found the answer in 1985 when we were approached by an
emissary from President Marcos of the Philippines and President
Saharte and others from Indonesia. They had a severe problem. Their
problem was that, having borrowed all the money that they had
borrowed, they now needed more money. The only way that the
International Monetary Fund was prepared to lend them more money was
if they would do three things:


1. Eliminate their own currencies and become Dollar denominated. This
would eliminate cash altogether.


2. If they would go to a unilateral centralized credit card system.
This was to be a part of their Social Security system, part of their
identity system whereby everybody in the country would have a Social
Security number which would be synonymous with a credit card number.
Their Central Bank was to act as the wholesaler for credit which was
extended to it by the new super bank. This was announced by Paul
Volker on the 27th of October, 1985.


3. In order to help the economies of those countries, the
International Monetary Fund was going to nominate external non-
domestic corporations to properly engineer, exploit and excavate the
minerals from those countries in return for PERPETUAL ROYALTIES.


This excavation would bring prosperity to the nation. Marcos was sharp
enough to pick up on the word PERPETUAL, and realized he would be
signing away the sovereignty of his nation. He was not prepared to do
this. Marcos approached us through his emissary, Colonel Christopher
Banis. We were aware of this offer made by
the International Monetary Fund through our connections in London who
are close to Sir Jeffrey Howe. If they agreed to the International
Monetary Fund's terms and conditions, they were to have their existing
debts forgiven, absolutely. New lines of credit were to be extended to
them and the new lines of credit were to be under better terms and
conditions.


When we heard the term PERPETUAL, and when we heard the words "Totally
forgiven", we immediately began to recognize what was
happening.Another group of holding companies was operating with the
previous group of holding companies. The second group of holding
companies was receiving credit from the first group to purchase assets
and liabilities from the prime banks. The only liabilities they were
purchasing were the liabilities represented by the deposits of the
Arab nations. The only
assets they were buying were the assets represented by the loans made
to some of the debtor nations.


It then became clear, through our own people in the Trilateral
Com-mission, that the forgiveness of the Third World debts would
eliminate the assets which were being purchased by this second group
of holding companies. This left them only with the liabilities that
were owed to the Middle East nations and being serviced by the prime
banks.The Arab nations had no idea that these liabilities were now
owed by the holding companies and that the debtor nations had stopped
paying the prime banks. The prime banks' and holding companies'
arrangements were that the prime banks were to act as servicing agents
for the holding
companies so that the Third World nations would not know that the
holding companies were owed the money.


The effect of the elimination of the assets of the second group of
holding companies is threefold:


1. The holding companies would be insolvent and would legally be able
to declare themselves insolvent.


2. They could legally and legitimately avoid payment to the Middle
Eastern Nations.


3. The Middle Eastern Arab nations will have to liquidate all their
other assets.


These assets are represented by U.S. corporate ownership
and many billions of dollars worth of U.S. stock. The effect of the
Saudis and Kuwaitis and the Middle Eastern people's sale of even 25%
of their total holdings on the U.S. market would be absolutely chaotic
in terms of the stock market, real estate and everything else.The
catastrophic effect has been designed to throw the American stock
market, the American corporations, the American real estate, and
people in general into a state of confusion. The plan is that this
state of con-fusion will begreated with the salvation of the
benevolent bankers on three fronts:


1. They propose to eliminate cash because of the collapse.


2. Stop drug trafficking because the drug traffickers would now have
no money to use.


3. Stop tax cheating.


NOBODY CAN ARGUE WITH ANY OF THESE REASONS. It is at this point that
they intend to implement a mandatory credit card identity Social
Security government. There will be an I.D. card
which will be satellite linked through the "Star Wars program".
Only 40% of "Star Wars" has anything to do with defense. 60% is
designed for transmission of banking information instantaneously to
the central banks which will be the super banks into which all the
major banks of the world will be linked. The super bank is to be the
wholesaler and the prime banks are to be the retailers in the foreign
countries that have capitulated to the International Monetary Fund's
program.


It inly takes 5% of the total debtor nations to equal all of the
deposits of the Saudis that are in the banks. The reason for this is
the twenty-to-one ratio of fractional reserve banking. In works in
contrary reverse. It doesn't take many nations to agree to the
International Mon-etary Fund's proposal for the total volume of money
owed to equal the total volume of money on deposit from the Saudis.
Twenty debtor nations have already agreed to the International
Monetary Fund's proposal.The resultant collapse of the second group of
holding companies will
precipitate the Saudis' and Kuwaitis' liquidation of assets.


When the second group of holding companies are unable to pay the
private group of bank holding companies the money they owe them from
the credit extended to them to buy the assets and liabilities, it will
precip-itate those bank holding companies inability to pay the loans
extended to them by the prime banks to buy the foreclosed land which
was used as collateral to secure those loans. Ultimately, the prime
banks will end up with all the properties.


President Garcia of Peru announced in February of this year that they
were absolutely not going to pay the International Monetary Fund.
Rockefeller himself went to Peru in February of 1986. Rockeffeler
personally made the offer to Garcia of the three-point proposal which
was mentioned earlier. Garcia told David that if he wasn't out of the
country in twenty-four hours that he would have him arrested for
racketeering.


You will see the foreclosures on real property in America stepped up
drastically by the FDIC and FSLIC. They are using gangsteristic
tactics to achieve their objective for their masters.


Since the advent of the manipulation of the oil producing countries to
sell all their oil in U.S. dollars, the entire world trade is now
denom-inated in U.S. dollars because of the volitility of all the
other currencies. The entire trading volume of the world will be
totally and absolutely beholden to the super banks. When System 2000
is put into effect, the super banks will be the only source of "U.S.
Dollars" credit. There will be no cash."


John Galt says 'FOLLOW THE HUNT FAMILY OF TEXAS'


thirteen families effectively control the central banks
by slave Monday, Apr. 10, 2006 at 8:52 PM
NEW WORLD ORDER


thirteen families effectively control the central banks of all the
hard-currency countries. These "control banks" all practice FRACTIONAL
RESERVE BANKING, which is perfectly legal in the US. Fractional
reserve banking means that the bank is only required to hold on hand
the small fraction of money (5%) that is needed to cover the fraction
of deposits likely to be drawn upon and cashed. Moneys deposited in
accounts go into a reserve upon which credit can be issued. In the US
credit can be issued to seven times the reserve, in international
banks (off shore establishments) twenty times the reserve can be
issued as credit. It is imp[ortant to understand this concept in order
to understand the larger picture.


In the mid 1970s, the final phase of System 2000, a "global creditors'
unilateral totalitarian plan" was put into effect. A Pentagon official
and three other US officials went to the Prime Minister of Nigeria and
offered him fifty million dollars in cash to double the price of light
crude oil. Nigeria is one of only two countries in the world that
produce light crude, which is an extremely pure form of oil whose
price sets the standard for all other forms of crude oil.


Armed with the knowledge that, because of their deal with Nigeria, the
price of Mid-east oil was about the skyrocket, the international
bankers went to the Arabs and said, "We will send the price of crude
oil as high as you want if you will promise to invest some of the
money you make in the United States."


Nigeria doubled the price of light crude, the price of oil from the
Mid-east went up and the price of a gallon of gasoline in the United
States jumped to $1.20. (My note: In Italy, where I was living at the
time, it was costing $1 a LITRE after the oil price was sent through
the roof.) Unwittingly, Americans began to finance System 2000 with
every tank of gas they bought.


As the money began to pour into the Arabian countries, the sheiks
fulfilled their promise to invest in the U.S. and began buying stocks,
bonds, and real estate. More importantly, they put their money into
thirty-year timed certificates (drawn up by the international
bankers). Remember that Arabs went from camel-riding nomads to wealthy
international investors in a very short period of time and they had no
grasp of how the banking system worked; in particular, they did not
know about the concept of fractional reserve banking.


The international bankers now had millions of dollars locked into
timed deposits, and they took that money and loaned out TWENTY TIMES
AS MUCH. In 1983, the international bankers created two groups of
holding companies to handle all this Arab money. One of the groups
took the funds coming in from the Arabs and loaned it out to Third
World countries. The purpose of the holding companies, as you will see
later, was to remove the responsibility for the money from the banks
to a less accountable entity.


The international bankers were aware of the fact that most of the
Third World countries knew nothing about running a country or
allocating funds. Most had been colonies of some other nation and had
only recently begun to govern themselves. The bankers were counting on
the Third World countries to squander their money in a short time.
They fully intended for these countries to go bankrupt and to be
unable to pay back their loans.


The Phillipines is one example of what happened to Third World
countries in the next stage of the plan. The international bankers
went to President Marcos and presented him with a way out of the
enormous debt his country faced. They said, "We will forgive your
loans - you'll have to pay none of the principal, none of the interest
- if you will just sign this agreement: 1) do away with its national
currency, 2) go to a debit-card system where each person is assigned a
number and his purchases are debited from his account on a
computerised system and 3) sign over perpetual rights to all natural
resources in the country.


The offer was tempting since it would put much of the labor force back
to work and solve many of the country's economic problems. But Marcos
realised that becasue of the word "perpetual", he was virtually giving
away the sovereignty of his country. He refused to sign the agreement.
Weeks later he wass deposed and his country was torn apart by riots
which Jonathon May says were incited by the internal bankers.


Other countries decided to accept the agreement when it was offered to
them. Recently Brasil, Argentina and other nations have announced that
they do not plan to pay back their loans. They failed to mention that
the loans had been excused in exchange for the rights to their natural
resources.


At this point all the dominoes are in place and the international
bankers are ready and waiting for their opportunity to topple them.


HERE IS THE PLAN. When enough of the Third World nations sign the
agreement, saying they are not going to repay the loans they received
from the holding company, the international bankers can declare the
holding company insolvent. (This is where it becomes apparent why the
money was put in holding companies instead of in banks. The holding
companies were designed to go bankrupt.! Chase Manhattan or Chemical
Bank would not have to be sacrified since there were not responsible
for the loans.)


Once the holding companie is declared bankrupt, they can legally avoid
payment to the Arab nations. The international bankers will say,
"Sorry, Arabs. We lost your money. You are broke!" When the Arab
nations realise that all their money is gone, they will immediately
liquidate all of their other assets. They will dump billions and
billions of stocks and Wall Street will collapse. They will put all of
their farmland and real estate on the market and land values will
plummet. Farmers will have no collateral to borrow against to plant
next year's crops and food will become scarce in the grocery stores.


The effect this will have on the American economy will be chaotic.
This catastrophic collapse has been purposely designed to throw the
American people into a state of confusion. Then the benevolent bankers
will step forward saying, "Look what these dirty Arabs have done to
you!" and offer a solution to our problems.


Their solution will be to abolish our currency and institute a new
form of money. Each person then would be issued a government ID number
and would need a debit card to do any business transactions.


Perhaps the biggest shock in May's story is that the "Star Wars"
system is only 40% concerned with defense and 60% concerned with
banking! These "Star Wars" satellites would link the debit system to a
central computer base - a superbank. Transfer of funds between
accounts would be instantaneous and the internal bankers would finally
have complete financial control. May says the debate over "Star Wars"
is all show because the satellites are already in place!


(snip)


Perhaps the best defense the international bankers have against
protesters is influencing the publics' opinion through the media!!! In
his book, "The Naked Capitalist" Cleon Skousen says that, "Nothing
panics the international establishment like the possibility of a
threatened exposure. Whenever the public has become dangerously aware
of the conspiratorial processes operating around them, the vast inter-
locking power structure of the entire London-Wall Street combine has
immediately shifted into high gear and raced to the rescue. Radio, TV,
newspaper, magazines, government policy makers, college officials and
other opinion molders in high places have all commenced a recitation
of a carefully prepared line designed to pacify the public and put
them back to sleep".


Who actually controls the Federal Reserve? Who are the stockholders of
this private corporation? In a legislative session regarding
abolishing the Fed, the following eight family banks were named as the
owners of the Federal Reserve:


Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin
Lazares Brothers Banks of Paris
Israel Moses Seif Bank of Italy
Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam
Lehman Brothers Bank of New York
Chase Manhattan Bank of New York
Kuhn, Loeb Bank of New York
Goldman, Sachs Bank of New York.


In his book, "To Seduce a Nation" Lindsey Williams lists the same 8
banks.





posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 07:10 PM
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TESTIMONY OF JONATHAN MAY

www.vinesbranch.com...


Jonathan May formerly worked for the International Monetary Fund in
England. In the early 1980s he came to America with a plan to release
Americans from debt to the banking system by employing the same
"credit creating" system used by international banking. The law
governing this system is the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC). May was
initially successful. Eventually, however, he was targeted and
imprisoned by the banking system. He is now in a Federal prison in the
midwest. While in prison he was interviewed by Lindsey Williams via
phone. The following is the text of that interview.


"There are thirteen families which effectively control the central
banks of the hard currency countries of the world. The hard currency
countries are those whose currency is not allowed to fluctuate as much
as the other countries' currency fluctuates. These thirteen families
have the control of the policy-making and decision-making of the
central banks of
those countries. They all practice fractional reserve banking.


Fractional reserve banking has allowed the central banks to permit the
prime banks to lend up to twenty-six units of currency for every one
unit of currency they have on deposit. The owners andcontrollers of
the prime banks are the same people who own and control the central
banks.The initial final stage of System 2000 was put into effect in
the mid-seventies. System 2000 is the global creditors unilateral
totalitarian plan for the control of the world.


A Pentagon official and three other U.S. government officials went to
the Prime Minister of Nigeria. They paid him $50,000,000 to more than
double the price of body light crude oil. This is the crude oil of
Nigeria which is some of the most valuable crude oil in the world. At
the same time that the Prime Minister of Nigeria was being persuaded,
other Trilateral Commission members were in the Middle East persuading
the Middle East nations and England to consolidate OPEC. The deal cut
with the Middle East oil producers was that the oil buyers were
prepared
to pay significantly higher prices for oil if the Middle East nations
would invest the revenues in the big banks in America.


Sheik Yamani's nephew assured us that Sheik Yamani and other oil
min-isters did not know until late in the seventies or in the eighties
that the controlling interest of the prime banks is held by the same
people who have the controlling interest in the major oil companies.
They control through a joint stock trust which was set up by the
original Rockefellers here in America in 1870. This was three years
before the United States government declared joint stock trusts
illegal in 1873. It is this entity which is the ultimate controlling
factor in America of the prime banks, the Federal Reserve, the major
oil companies, and many other multi-nationals. This trust is in joint
control of the Rockefeller Foundation and their European interest.


The deal cut with the Saudis, the Kuwaitis, and the middle eastern
peoples was that they were to put their money in the prime banks in
America. They did not know that the prime banks were able to lend
twenty to one. All they were to receive was the interest on the money
they deposited for between ten to thirty years. They were to receive
the principal at the end of the term.


Because they had locked-in deposits from the Middle Eastern nations,
the banks were able to make loans to the Third World nations. The
banks relied on the greed of those ministers of those Third World
nations to mis-handle the money. Over the years, that manipulated
greed has caused those countries to be in the bankrupt position they
are in today.


In 1981, I found out that the Hunt brothers of Texas and John
Conley,the Governor of Texas, who was also the Under Secretary of the
Treasury, hadsecretly tried to implement a new currency for Texas.
They could legally dothis because Texas is only a part of the United
States by treaty. Thistreaty is automatically renewed every year. It
has become a tradition, obviously, that it is renewed every year
because it is not actually, physically, renewed every year. This made
it possible for Texas to create its own money.


The Hunts were in partnership with the Shah of Iran, a German bank,
and an Austrian bank. The Hunts made one mistake. They were buying and
sell-ing silver irresponsibly. They had one man doing both buying and
selling on the same floors in all the exchanges. Wor got out and the
result was that the German banker was murdered, the Ausrtrian banker
was so badly beaten that he will never get out of a mental
institution, and the Hunts are virtually bank-rupt today. The Hunts
had sixteen billions
in worth at the time. The Shah was perfectly healthy when he left
Iran. He was only declared sick when he arrived in America. He was
held in "protective custody" in military bases where he was treated
and became progressively worse and ultimately was shipped off to die.


In 1983, we became aware of the fact that a group of very, very quiet
bank holding companies were extending credit wherever they felt like
it, under whatever terms they felt like. They are authorized under
Regulation Y, Section 225.4 of the United States Code to extend this
credit. Those companies were receiving loans from the prime banks.
With this money they were buying foreclosed real property and
businesses with bricks and mortar from liquidations, foreclosures and
bankruptcies.
These were bussinesses which were affected by FDIC and FSLIC
foreclosures. We could not understand this, and between 1983 and 1985
we researched it and still could not understand it.


Then we found the answer in 1985 when we were approached by an
emissary from President Marcos of the Philippines and President
Saharte and others from Indonesia. They had a severe problem. Their
problem was that, having borrowed all the money that they had
borrowed, they now needed more money. The only way that the
International Monetary Fund was prepared to lend them more money was
if they would do three things:


1. Eliminate their own currencies and become Dollar denominated. This
would eliminate cash altogether.


2. If they would go to a unilateral centralized credit card system.
This was to be a part of their Social Security system, part of their
identity system whereby everybody in the country would have a Social
Security number which would be synonymous with a credit card number.
Their Central Bank was to act as the wholesaler for credit which was
extended to it by the new super bank. This was announced by Paul
Volker on the 27th of October, 1985.


3. In order to help the economies of those countries, the
International Monetary Fund was going to nominate external non-
domestic corporations to properly engineer, exploit and excavate the
minerals from those countries in return for PERPETUAL ROYALTIES.


This excavation would bring prosperity to the nation. Marcos was sharp
enough to pick up on the word PERPETUAL, and realized he would be
signing away the sovereignty of his nation. He was not prepared to do
this. Marcos approached us through his emissary, Colonel Christopher
Banis. We were aware of this offer made by
the International Monetary Fund through our connections in London who
are close to Sir Jeffrey Howe. If they agreed to the International
Monetary Fund's terms and conditions, they were to have their existing
debts forgiven, absolutely. New lines of credit were to be extended to
them and the new lines of credit were to be under better terms and
conditions.


When we heard the term PERPETUAL, and when we heard the words "Totally
forgiven", we immediately began to recognize what was
happening.Another group of holding companies was operating with the
previous group of holding companies. The second group of holding
companies was receiving credit from the first group to purchase assets
and liabilities from the prime banks. The only liabilities they were
purchasing were the liabilities represented by the deposits of the
Arab nations. The only
assets they were buying were the assets represented by the loans made
to some of the debtor nations.


It then became clear, through our own people in the Trilateral
Com-mission, that the forgiveness of the Third World debts would
eliminate the assets which were being purchased by this second group
of holding companies. This left them only with the liabilities that
were owed to the Middle East nations and being serviced by the prime
banks.The Arab nations had no idea that these liabilities were now
owed by the holding companies and that the debtor nations had stopped
paying the prime banks. The prime banks' and holding companies'
arrangements were that the prime banks were to act as servicing agents
for the holding
companies so that the Third World nations would not know that the
holding companies were owed the money.


The effect of the elimination of the assets of the second group of
holding companies is threefold:


1. The holding companies would be insolvent and would legally be able
to declare themselves insolvent.


2. They could legally and legitimately avoid payment to the Middle
Eastern Nations.


3. The Middle Eastern Arab nations will have to liquidate all their
other assets.


These assets are represented by U.S. corporate ownership
and many billions of dollars worth of U.S. stock. The effect of the
Saudis and Kuwaitis and the Middle Eastern people's sale of even 25%
of their total holdings on the U.S. market would be absolutely chaotic
in terms of the stock market, real estate and everything else.The
catastrophic effect has been designed to throw the American stock
market, the American corporations, the American real estate, and
people in general into a state of confusion. The plan is that this
state of con-fusion will begreated with the salvation of the
benevolent bankers on three fronts:


1. They propose to eliminate cash because of the collapse.


2. Stop drug trafficking because the drug traffickers would now have
no money to use.


3. Stop tax cheating.


NOBODY CAN ARGUE WITH ANY OF THESE REASONS. It is at this point that
they intend to implement a mandatory credit card identity Social
Security government. There will be an I.D. card
which will be satellite linked through the "Star Wars program".
Only 40% of "Star Wars" has anything to do with defense. 60% is
designed for transmission of banking information instantaneously to
the central banks which will be the super banks into which all the
major banks of the world will be linked. The super bank is to be the
wholesaler and the prime banks are to be the retailers in the foreign
countries that have capitulated to the International Monetary Fund's
program.


It inly takes 5% of the total debtor nations to equal all of the
deposits of the Saudis that are in the banks. The reason for this is
the twenty-to-one ratio of fractional reserve banking. In works in
contrary reverse. It doesn't take many nations to agree to the
International Mon-etary Fund's proposal for the total volume of money
owed to equal the total volume of money on deposit from the Saudis.
Twenty debtor nations have already agreed to the International
Monetary Fund's proposal.The resultant collapse of the second group of
holding companies will
precipitate the Saudis' and Kuwaitis' liquidation of assets.


When the second group of holding companies are unable to pay the
private group of bank holding companies the money they owe them from
the credit extended to them to buy the assets and liabilities, it will
precip-itate those bank holding companies inability to pay the loans
extended to them by the prime banks to buy the foreclosed land which
was used as collateral to secure those loans. Ultimately, the prime
banks will end up with all the properties.


President Garcia of Peru announced in February of this year that they
were absolutely not going to pay the International Monetary Fund.
Rockefeller himself went to Peru in February of 1986. Rockeffeler
personally made the offer to Garcia of the three-point proposal which
was mentioned earlier. Garcia told David that if he wasn't out of the
country in twenty-four hours that he would have him arrested for
racketeering.


You will see the foreclosures on real property in America stepped up
drastically by the FDIC and FSLIC. They are using gangsteristic
tactics to achieve their objective for their masters.


Since the advent of the manipulation of the oil producing countries to
sell all their oil in U.S. dollars, the entire world trade is now
denom-inated in U.S. dollars because of the volitility of all the
other currencies. The entire trading volume of the world will be
totally and absolutely beholden to the super banks. When System 2000
is put into effect, the super banks will be the only source of "U.S.
Dollars" credit. There will be no cash."


John Galt says 'FOLLOW THE HUNT FAMILY OF TEXAS'


thirteen families effectively control the central banks
by slave Monday, Apr. 10, 2006 at 8:52 PM
NEW WORLD ORDER


thirteen families effectively control the central banks of all the
hard-currency countries. These "control banks" all practice FRACTIONAL
RESERVE BANKING, which is perfectly legal in the US. Fractional
reserve banking means that the bank is only required to hold on hand
the small fraction of money (5%) that is needed to cover the fraction
of deposits likely to be drawn upon and cashed. Moneys deposited in
accounts go into a reserve upon which credit can be issued. In the US
credit can be issued to seven times the reserve, in international
banks (off shore establishments) twenty times the reserve can be
issued as credit. It is imp[ortant to understand this concept in order
to understand the larger picture.


In the mid 1970s, the final phase of System 2000, a "global creditors'
unilateral totalitarian plan" was put into effect. A Pentagon official
and three other US officials went to the Prime Minister of Nigeria and
offered him fifty million dollars in cash to double the price of light
crude oil. Nigeria is one of only two countries in the world that
produce light crude, which is an extremely pure form of oil whose
price sets the standard for all other forms of crude oil.


Armed with the knowledge that, because of their deal with Nigeria, the
price of Mid-east oil was about the skyrocket, the international
bankers went to the Arabs and said, "We will send the price of crude
oil as high as you want if you will promise to invest some of the
money you make in the United States."


Nigeria doubled the price of light crude, the price of oil from the
Mid-east went up and the price of a gallon of gasoline in the United
States jumped to $1.20. (My note: In Italy, where I was living at the
time, it was costing $1 a LITRE after the oil price was sent through
the roof.) Unwittingly, Americans began to finance System 2000 with
every tank of gas they bought.


As the money began to pour into the Arabian countries, the sheiks
fulfilled their promise to invest in the U.S. and began buying stocks,
bonds, and real estate. More importantly, they put their money into
thirty-year timed certificates (drawn up by the international
bankers). Remember that Arabs went from camel-riding nomads to wealthy
international investors in a very short period of time and they had no
grasp of how the banking system worked; in particular, they did not
know about the concept of fractional reserve banking.


The international bankers now had millions of dollars locked into
timed deposits, and they took that money and loaned out TWENTY TIMES
AS MUCH. In 1983, the international bankers created two groups of
holding companies to handle all this Arab money. One of the groups
took the funds coming in from the Arabs and loaned it out to Third
World countries. The purpose of the holding companies, as you will see
later, was to remove the responsibility for the money from the banks
to a less accountable entity.


The international bankers were aware of the fact that most of the
Third World countries knew nothing about running a country or
allocating funds. Most had been colonies of some other nation and had
only recently begun to govern themselves. The bankers were counting on
the Third World countries to squander their money in a short time.
They fully intended for these countries to go bankrupt and to be
unable to pay back their loans.


The Phillipines is one example of what happened to Third World
countries in the next stage of the plan. The international bankers
went to President Marcos and presented him with a way out of the
enormous debt his country faced. They said, "We will forgive your
loans - you'll have to pay none of the principal, none of the interest
- if you will just sign this agreement: 1) do away with its national
currency, 2) go to a debit-card system where each person is assigned a
number and his purchases are debited from his account on a
computerised system and 3) sign over perpetual rights to all natural
resources in the country.


The offer was tempting since it would put much of the labor force back
to work and solve many of the country's economic problems. But Marcos
realised that becasue of the word "perpetual", he was virtually giving
away the sovereignty of his country. He refused to sign the agreement.
Weeks later he wass deposed and his country was torn apart by riots
which Jonathon May says were incited by the internal bankers.


Other countries decided to accept the agreement when it was offered to
them. Recently Brasil, Argentina and other nations have announced that
they do not plan to pay back their loans. They failed to mention that
the loans had been excused in exchange for the rights to their natural
resources.


At this point all the dominoes are in place and the international
bankers are ready and waiting for their opportunity to topple them.


HERE IS THE PLAN. When enough of the Third World nations sign the
agreement, saying they are not going to repay the loans they received
from the holding company, the international bankers can declare the
holding company insolvent. (This is where it becomes apparent why the
money was put in holding companies instead of in banks. The holding
companies were designed to go bankrupt.! Chase Manhattan or Chemical
Bank would not have to be sacrified since there were not responsible
for the loans.)


Once the holding companie is declared bankrupt, they can legally avoid
payment to the Arab nations. The international bankers will say,
"Sorry, Arabs. We lost your money. You are broke!" When the Arab
nations realise that all their money is gone, they will immediately
liquidate all of their other assets. They will dump billions and
billions of stocks and Wall Street will collapse. They will put all of
their farmland and real estate on the market and land values will
plummet. Farmers will have no collateral to borrow against to plant
next year's crops and food will become scarce in the grocery stores.


The effect this will have on the American economy will be chaotic.
This catastrophic collapse has been purposely designed to throw the
American people into a state of confusion. Then the benevolent bankers
will step forward saying, "Look what these dirty Arabs have done to
you!" and offer a solution to our problems.


Their solution will be to abolish our currency and institute a new
form of money. Each person then would be issued a government ID number
and would need a debit card to do any business transactions.


Perhaps the biggest shock in May's story is that the "Star Wars"
system is only 40% concerned with defense and 60% concerned with
banking! These "Star Wars" satellites would link the debit system to a
central computer base - a superbank. Transfer of funds between
accounts would be instantaneous and the internal bankers would finally
have complete financial control. May says the debate over "Star Wars"
is all show because the satellites are already in place!


(snip)


Perhaps the best defense the international bankers have against
protesters is influencing the publics' opinion through the media!!! In
his book, "The Naked Capitalist" Cleon Skousen says that, "Nothing
panics the international establishment like the possibility of a
threatened exposure. Whenever the public has become dangerously aware
of the conspiratorial processes operating around them, the vast inter-
locking power structure of the entire London-Wall Street combine has
immediately shifted into high gear and raced to the rescue. Radio, TV,
newspaper, magazines, government policy makers, college officials and
other opinion molders in high places have all commenced a recitation
of a carefully prepared line designed to pacify the public and put
them back to sleep".


Who actually controls the Federal Reserve? Who are the stockholders of
this private corporation? In a legislative session regarding
abolishing the Fed, the following eight family banks were named as the
owners of the Federal Reserve:


Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin
Lazares Brothers Banks of Paris
Israel Moses Seif Bank of Italy
Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam
Lehman Brothers Bank of New York
Chase Manhattan Bank of New York
Kuhn, Loeb Bank of New York
Goldman, Sachs Bank of New York.


In his book, "To Seduce a Nation" Lindsey Williams lists the same 8
banks.





posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 07:16 PM
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TESTIMONY OF JONATHAN MAY

www.vinesbranch.com...


Jonathan May formerly worked for the International Monetary Fund in
England. In the early 1980s he came to America with a plan to release
Americans from debt to the banking system by employing the same
"credit creating" system used by international banking. The law
governing this system is the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC). May was
initially successful. Eventually, however, he was targeted and
imprisoned by the banking system. He is now in a Federal prison in the
midwest. While in prison he was interviewed by Lindsey Williams via
phone. The following is the text of that interview.


"There are thirteen families which effectively control the central
banks of the hard currency countries of the world. The hard currency
countries are those whose currency is not allowed to fluctuate as much
as the other countries' currency fluctuates. These thirteen families
have the control of the policy-making and decision-making of the
central banks of
those countries. They all practice fractional reserve banking.


Fractional reserve banking has allowed the central banks to permit the
prime banks to lend up to twenty-six units of currency for every one
unit of currency they have on deposit. The owners andcontrollers of
the prime banks are the same people who own and control the central
banks.The initial final stage of System 2000 was put into effect in
the mid-seventies. System 2000 is the global creditors unilateral
totalitarian plan for the control of the world.


A Pentagon official and three other U.S. government officials went to
the Prime Minister of Nigeria. They paid him $50,000,000 to more than
double the price of body light crude oil. This is the crude oil of
Nigeria which is some of the most valuable crude oil in the world. At
the same time that the Prime Minister of Nigeria was being persuaded,
other Trilateral Commission members were in the Middle East persuading
the Middle East nations and England to consolidate OPEC. The deal cut
with the Middle East oil producers was that the oil buyers were
prepared
to pay significantly higher prices for oil if the Middle East nations
would invest the revenues in the big banks in America.


Sheik Yamani's nephew assured us that Sheik Yamani and other oil
min-isters did not know until late in the seventies or in the eighties
that the controlling interest of the prime banks is held by the same
people who have the controlling interest in the major oil companies.
They control through a joint stock trust which was set up by the
original Rockefellers here in America in 1870. This was three years
before the United States government declared joint stock trusts
illegal in 1873. It is this entity which is the ultimate controlling
factor in America of the prime banks, the Federal Reserve, the major
oil companies, and many other multi-nationals. This trust is in joint
control of the Rockefeller Foundation and their European interest.


The deal cut with the Saudis, the Kuwaitis, and the middle eastern
peoples was that they were to put their money in the prime banks in
America. They did not know that the prime banks were able to lend
twenty to one. All they were to receive was the interest on the money
they deposited for between ten to thirty years. They were to receive
the principal at the end of the term.


Because they had locked-in deposits from the Middle Eastern nations,
the banks were able to make loans to the Third World nations. The
banks relied on the greed of those ministers of those Third World
nations to mis-handle the money. Over the years, that manipulated
greed has caused those countries to be in the bankrupt position they
are in today.


In 1981, I found out that the Hunt brothers of Texas and John
Conley,the Governor of Texas, who was also the Under Secretary of the
Treasury, hadsecretly tried to implement a new currency for Texas.
They could legally dothis because Texas is only a part of the United
States by treaty. Thistreaty is automatically renewed every year. It
has become a tradition, obviously, that it is renewed every year
because it is not actually, physically, renewed every year. This made
it possible for Texas to create its own money.


The Hunts were in partnership with the Shah of Iran, a German bank,
and an Austrian bank. The Hunts made one mistake. They were buying and
sell-ing silver irresponsibly. They had one man doing both buying and
selling on the same floors in all the exchanges. Wor got out and the
result was that the German banker was murdered, the Ausrtrian banker
was so badly beaten that he will never get out of a mental
institution, and the Hunts are virtually bank-rupt today. The Hunts
had sixteen billions
in worth at the time. The Shah was perfectly healthy when he left
Iran. He was only declared sick when he arrived in America. He was
held in "protective custody" in military bases where he was treated
and became progressively worse and ultimately was shipped off to die.


In 1983, we became aware of the fact that a group of very, very quiet
bank holding companies were extending credit wherever they felt like
it, under whatever terms they felt like. They are authorized under
Regulation Y, Section 225.4 of the United States Code to extend this
credit. Those companies were receiving loans from the prime banks.
With this money they were buying foreclosed real property and
businesses with bricks and mortar from liquidations, foreclosures and
bankruptcies.
These were bussinesses which were affected by FDIC and FSLIC
foreclosures. We could not understand this, and between 1983 and 1985
we researched it and still could not understand it.


Then we found the answer in 1985 when we were approached by an
emissary from President Marcos of the Philippines and President
Saharte and others from Indonesia. They had a severe problem. Their
problem was that, having borrowed all the money that they had
borrowed, they now needed more money. The only way that the
International Monetary Fund was prepared to lend them more money was
if they would do three things:


1. Eliminate their own currencies and become Dollar denominated. This
would eliminate cash altogether.


2. If they would go to a unilateral centralized credit card system.
This was to be a part of their Social Security system, part of their
identity system whereby everybody in the country would have a Social
Security number which would be synonymous with a credit card number.
Their Central Bank was to act as the wholesaler for credit which was
extended to it by the new super bank. This was announced by Paul
Volker on the 27th of October, 1985.


3. In order to help the economies of those countries, the
International Monetary Fund was going to nominate external non-
domestic corporations to properly engineer, exploit and excavate the
minerals from those countries in return for PERPETUAL ROYALTIES.


This excavation would bring prosperity to the nation. Marcos was sharp
enough to pick up on the word PERPETUAL, and realized he would be
signing away the sovereignty of his nation. He was not prepared to do
this. Marcos approached us through his emissary, Colonel Christopher
Banis. We were aware of this offer made by
the International Monetary Fund through our connections in London who
are close to Sir Jeffrey Howe. If they agreed to the International
Monetary Fund's terms and conditions, they were to have their existing
debts forgiven, absolutely. New lines of credit were to be extended to
them and the new lines of credit were to be under better terms and
conditions.


When we heard the term PERPETUAL, and when we heard the words "Totally
forgiven", we immediately began to recognize what was
happening.Another group of holding companies was operating with the
previous group of holding companies. The second group of holding
companies was receiving credit from the first group to purchase assets
and liabilities from the prime banks. The only liabilities they were
purchasing were the liabilities represented by the deposits of the
Arab nations. The only
assets they were buying were the assets represented by the loans made
to some of the debtor nations.


It then became clear, through our own people in the Trilateral
Com-mission, that the forgiveness of the Third World debts would
eliminate the assets which were being purchased by this second group
of holding companies. This left them only with the liabilities that
were owed to the Middle East nations and being serviced by the prime
banks.The Arab nations had no idea that these liabilities were now
owed by the holding companies and that the debtor nations had stopped
paying the prime banks. The prime banks' and holding companies'
arrangements were that the prime banks were to act as servicing agents
for the holding
companies so that the Third World nations would not know that the
holding companies were owed the money.


The effect of the elimination of the assets of the second group of
holding companies is threefold:


1. The holding companies would be insolvent and would legally be able
to declare themselves insolvent.


2. They could legally and legitimately avoid payment to the Middle
Eastern Nations.


3. The Middle Eastern Arab nations will have to liquidate all their
other assets.


These assets are represented by U.S. corporate ownership
and many billions of dollars worth of U.S. stock. The effect of the
Saudis and Kuwaitis and the Middle Eastern people's sale of even 25%
of their total holdings on the U.S. market would be absolutely chaotic
in terms of the stock market, real estate and everything else.The
catastrophic effect has been designed to throw the American stock
market, the American corporations, the American real estate, and
people in general into a state of confusion. The plan is that this
state of con-fusion will begreated with the salvation of the
benevolent bankers on three fronts:


1. They propose to eliminate cash because of the collapse.


2. Stop drug trafficking because the drug traffickers would now have
no money to use.


3. Stop tax cheating.


NOBODY CAN ARGUE WITH ANY OF THESE REASONS. It is at this point that
they intend to implement a mandatory credit card identity Social
Security government. There will be an I.D. card
which will be satellite linked through the "Star Wars program".
Only 40% of "Star Wars" has anything to do with defense. 60% is
designed for transmission of banking information instantaneously to
the central banks which will be the super banks into which all the
major banks of the world will be linked. The super bank is to be the
wholesaler and the prime banks are to be the retailers in the foreign
countries that have capitulated to the International Monetary Fund's
program.


It inly takes 5% of the total debtor nations to equal all of the
deposits of the Saudis that are in the banks. The reason for this is
the twenty-to-one ratio of fractional reserve banking. In works in
contrary reverse. It doesn't take many nations to agree to the
International Mon-etary Fund's proposal for the total volume of money
owed to equal the total volume of money on deposit from the Saudis.
Twenty debtor nations have already agreed to the International
Monetary Fund's proposal.The resultant collapse of the second group of
holding companies will
precipitate the Saudis' and Kuwaitis' liquidation of assets.


When the second group of holding companies are unable to pay the
private group of bank holding companies the money they owe them from
the credit extended to them to buy the assets and liabilities, it will
precip-itate those bank holding companies inability to pay the loans
extended to them by the prime banks to buy the foreclosed land which
was used as collateral to secure those loans. Ultimately, the prime
banks will end up with all the properties.


President Garcia of Peru announced in February of this year that they
were absolutely not going to pay the International Monetary Fund.
Rockefeller himself went to Peru in February of 1986. Rockeffeler
personally made the offer to Garcia of the three-point proposal which
was mentioned earlier. Garcia told David that if he wasn't out of the
country in twenty-four hours that he would have him arrested for
racketeering.


You will see the foreclosures on real property in America stepped up
drastically by the FDIC and FSLIC. They are using gangsteristic
tactics to achieve their objective for their masters.


Since the advent of the manipulation of the oil producing countries to
sell all their oil in U.S. dollars, the entire world trade is now
denom-inated in U.S. dollars because of the volitility of all the
other currencies. The entire trading volume of the world will be
totally and absolutely beholden to the super banks. When System 2000
is put into effect, the super banks will be the only source of "U.S.
Dollars" credit. There will be no cash."


John Galt says 'FOLLOW THE HUNT FAMILY OF TEXAS'


thirteen families effectively control the central banks
by slave Monday, Apr. 10, 2006 at 8:52 PM
NEW WORLD ORDER


thirteen families effectively control the central banks of all the
hard-currency countries. These "control banks" all practice FRACTIONAL
RESERVE BANKING, which is perfectly legal in the US. Fractional
reserve banking means that the bank is only required to hold on hand
the small fraction of money (5%) that is needed to cover the fraction
of deposits likely to be drawn upon and cashed. Moneys deposited in
accounts go into a reserve upon which credit can be issued. In the US
credit can be issued to seven times the reserve, in international
banks (off shore establishments) twenty times the reserve can be
issued as credit. It is imp[ortant to understand this concept in order
to understand the larger picture.


In the mid 1970s, the final phase of System 2000, a "global creditors'
unilateral totalitarian plan" was put into effect. A Pentagon official
and three other US officials went to the Prime Minister of Nigeria and
offered him fifty million dollars in cash to double the price of light
crude oil. Nigeria is one of only two countries in the world that
produce light crude, which is an extremely pure form of oil whose
price sets the standard for all other forms of crude oil.


Armed with the knowledge that, because of their deal with Nigeria, the
price of Mid-east oil was about the skyrocket, the international
bankers went to the Arabs and said, "We will send the price of crude
oil as high as you want if you will promise to invest some of the
money you make in the United States."


Nigeria doubled the price of light crude, the price of oil from the
Mid-east went up and the price of a gallon of gasoline in the United
States jumped to $1.20. (My note: In Italy, where I was living at the
time, it was costing $1 a LITRE after the oil price was sent through
the roof.) Unwittingly, Americans began to finance System 2000 with
every tank of gas they bought.


As the money began to pour into the Arabian countries, the sheiks
fulfilled their promise to invest in the U.S. and began buying stocks,
bonds, and real estate. More importantly, they put their money into
thirty-year timed certificates (drawn up by the international
bankers). Remember that Arabs went from camel-riding nomads to wealthy
international investors in a very short period of time and they had no
grasp of how the banking system worked; in particular, they did not
know about the concept of fractional reserve banking.


The international bankers now had millions of dollars locked into
timed deposits, and they took that money and loaned out TWENTY TIMES
AS MUCH. In 1983, the international bankers created two groups of
holding companies to handle all this Arab money. One of the groups
took the funds coming in from the Arabs and loaned it out to Third
World countries. The purpose of the holding companies, as you will see
later, was to remove the responsibility for the money from the banks
to a less accountable entity.


The international bankers were aware of the fact that most of the
Third World countries knew nothing about running a country or
allocating funds. Most had been colonies of some other nation and had
only recently begun to govern themselves. The bankers were counting on
the Third World countries to squander their money in a short time.
They fully intended for these countries to go bankrupt and to be
unable to pay back their loans.


The Phillipines is one example of what happened to Third World
countries in the next stage of the plan. The international bankers
went to President Marcos and presented him with a way out of the
enormous debt his country faced. They said, "We will forgive your
loans - you'll have to pay none of the principal, none of the interest
- if you will just sign this agreement: 1) do away with its national
currency, 2) go to a debit-card system where each person is assigned a
number and his purchases are debited from his account on a
computerised system and 3) sign over perpetual rights to all natural
resources in the country.


The offer was tempting since it would put much of the labor force back
to work and solve many of the country's economic problems. But Marcos
realised that becasue of the word "perpetual", he was virtually giving
away the sovereignty of his country. He refused to sign the agreement.
Weeks later he wass deposed and his country was torn apart by riots
which Jonathon May says were incited by the internal bankers.


Other countries decided to accept the agreement when it was offered to
them. Recently Brasil, Argentina and other nations have announced that
they do not plan to pay back their loans. They failed to mention that
the loans had been excused in exchange for the rights to their natural
resources.


At this point all the dominoes are in place and the international
bankers are ready and waiting for their opportunity to topple them.


HERE IS THE PLAN. When enough of the Third World nations sign the
agreement, saying they are not going to repay the loans they received
from the holding company, the international bankers can declare the
holding company insolvent. (This is where it becomes apparent why the
money was put in holding companies instead of in banks. The holding
companies were designed to go bankrupt.! Chase Manhattan or Chemical
Bank would not have to be sacrified since there were not responsible
for the loans.)


Once the holding companie is declared bankrupt, they can legally avoid
payment to the Arab nations. The international bankers will say,
"Sorry, Arabs. We lost your money. You are broke!" When the Arab
nations realise that all their money is gone, they will immediately
liquidate all of their other assets. They will dump billions and
billions of stocks and Wall Street will collapse. They will put all of
their farmland and real estate on the market and land values will
plummet. Farmers will have no collateral to borrow against to plant
next year's crops and food will become scarce in the grocery stores.


The effect this will have on the American economy will be chaotic.
This catastrophic collapse has been purposely designed to throw the
American people into a state of confusion. Then the benevolent bankers
will step forward saying, "Look what these dirty Arabs have done to
you!" and offer a solution to our problems.


Their solution will be to abolish our currency and institute a new
form of money. Each person then would be issued a government ID number
and would need a debit card to do any business transactions.


Perhaps the biggest shock in May's story is that the "Star Wars"
system is only 40% concerned with defense and 60% concerned with
banking! These "Star Wars" satellites would link the debit system to a
central computer base - a superbank. Transfer of funds between
accounts would be instantaneous and the internal bankers would finally
have complete financial control. May says the debate over "Star Wars"
is all show because the satellites are already in place!


(snip)


Perhaps the best defense the international bankers have against
protesters is influencing the publics' opinion through the media!!! In
his book, "The Naked Capitalist" Cleon Skousen says that, "Nothing
panics the international establishment like the possibility of a
threatened exposure. Whenever the public has become dangerously aware
of the conspiratorial processes operating around them, the vast inter-
locking power structure of the entire London-Wall Street combine has
immediately shifted into high gear and raced to the rescue. Radio, TV,
newspaper, magazines, government policy makers, college officials and
other opinion molders in high places have all commenced a recitation
of a carefully prepared line designed to pacify the public and put
them back to sleep".


Who actually controls the Federal Reserve? Who are the stockholders of
this private corporation? In a legislative session regarding
abolishing the Fed, the following eight family banks were named as the
owners of the Federal Reserve:


Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin
Lazares Brothers Banks of Paris
Israel Moses Seif Bank of Italy
Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam
Lehman Brothers Bank of New York
Chase Manhattan Bank of New York
Kuhn, Loeb Bank of New York
Goldman, Sachs Bank of New York.


In his book, "To Seduce a Nation" Lindsey Williams lists the same 8
banks.





posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 07:21 PM
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What's wrong with this thread? Everytime I post it says it can't find the page. Anyways, look at Lincoln and Kennedy, both men weeks before their deaths had plans underway to abolish the Fed



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 07:29 PM
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The Federal Reserve should be abolished and Gold should be the national standard and we should only used metal backed ciurrency. Down with credit and promissory notes. I denounce any and all obligations to such hoaky contracts.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 07:39 PM
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phaber dragon.......um that was quite a load there from 1987

digesting it and trying to see if it already proved to be meaningless




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posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 08:00 PM
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They are pissing off so many people, you probably won't need to hire anyone. They would do it for free I would imagine.

-freedom of speech



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posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 11:43 PM
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Great for people who have broadband or cable. Those of us using dialup are screwed. It can take days to download a movie and I can guarntee, from personal exprience, you will time out.
But not to worry. Obama promises broadband to all of us who live in rural areas. (And when pigs fly, we'll call them pigeons.)



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