It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

The Black Sheep Royal line of the Dragon/Lion.

page: 6
9
<< 3  4  5    7  8 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 12:32 AM
link   

Originally posted by RaCana
reply to post by mmariebored
 


I had once considered that, and after i started to get responses like the one from recon pilot, i found out more, as i have the ability to see/know/understand the sequences truth/truths, or untruths of what they respond with, one amoung many thing's i can do, and ways i can do that.

If you have that ability, why do you think I'm a harpy? That makes me think someone/thing is messing with your mind. I know a LOT of people who live in their own minds, believing they know about this person or that because of an assumed "power" they were gifted with, you're not the only one.

But if you truly do have that gift, if there is an opening, allowing hidden truths to come in, do you not think that distortion can come in as well? What makes you think your mental filter is better than other people who tap the same well as you do. If you are dwelling in the pool of collective consciousness, you're running into the disinfo that swims in there as well as the truths. If everything was perfectly clear and your filter was perfect, you wouldn't be in the situation you're in right now. You wouldn't have ever had to "hide" because you would know ahead of time who will come where and when and who is friend or foe. So knowing that your filter for discerning truths from disinfo is not perfect, you rely on "facts" around you, but you know better than many people that "facts"(documents) can be altered and/or forged and history can easily be recreated and distorted in as many different ways as possible to create as many conflicting perspectives as desired.


Consider the legends that go with the harpy's, a mixture of creatures in their creation, the base being female, as well as the deeds they performed against humans, and the consider the control they had once wielded openly in the ancient world from those legends, and whom they served.


"Legends" hold very little value with me. I enjoy scientific proof before believing anyoldthing these days, and this is the direction the world is 'spinning' in.



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 02:57 AM
link   
This thread is very interesting, certainly. So interesting, that I just had to log in to reply.

I think this could all be settled rather quickly if RaCana just took a picture of his eye. You know, the one that says you're.. whatever you said you were? Unless I read that wrong, which is possible since I have a tendency to skim when I'm presented with a big wall o' text. It -is- a little difficult to read what you're writing there, son. Just saying.



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 05:13 AM
link   
reply to post by RaCana
 


Instead of blathering on , I suggest you do a bit of REAL research instead of cobbling together other peoples input here, then trying to frighten me by suggesting you know who I am ! HA . OOOOh, im so scared of your awesome dragon powers ......NOT.

I dont mind you slagging off the jews , we are well aware of how corrupt and self serving Anu's chosen race are .

But wether you like it or not , humans are not the be all and end all of species regardeless of Enki's claims. He crippled them with genetic reengineering to be an expendable weapons system , end of story.

Your claims are bold and no doubt you are hoping to get some traction from claiming royal genes . But in truth you are doing the old Jewish trick of playing the good guy to fool the ignorant and drive your hidden agenda while claiming credit for our families hard work and sacrifice trying to stop the jewish agenda !

All you are trying to do is demonise ET's and claim hero status for yourself . Its pathetic .

Well if you ever get down to australia where most of the real Dragons are based ,watch yourself because we can smell a closet Jew a country mile off . They have a certain smell.......



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 12:57 PM
link   
reply to post by mmariebored
 


I don't reach out anymore, i was going more on your statements in your posts.
i never called it power, only ability's. What i write can be random. The different layered life sequences is what causes the distortions, amoung them is delibrately implaced false information.

Collective consciousness of self/realself/realtrueself, and all that we have endured through the age's. it's more like i already know the facts from several different perspectives of self. Which as you say, can be distorted, especially when there are those whom work to make it so.

There's actual truth behind that legend, and many others, why the people bother to keep them. It tie's in with the insanity of the medusa program that recon pilot mentioned, though known generally as the great whore. Which has finally been erased, the right thing's happened in the sequences so far.

That program had been designed to persicute myself/family. Because my family, or the head of it, was the only one who could erase the insane A.I.



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 12:59 PM
link   
reply to post by Rollzio
 



I would love to, but i've never been very good with pc''s, and lack the equipment to do so, even if i knew how. It would clear at least that up would'nt it.



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 01:21 PM
link   
reply to post by reconpilot
 


What i know is'nt through the sort of researce your talking about. i went into another thread on this site for about 2mins, and have read no material beyond what i had glanced at there.

That's the point, they are the beasts, who are beast/serpent/giant hybrids.

They are not Anu's chosen, they never came from him, not willingly at least, why he wants them all dead, the beasts must be destroyed is a refrain of his that won't go away until it's done. The beasts themselves distorted all that, why they control that sort of information through themselves, and their various religious thralls around the world. They are parasites controlling/distorting/twisting actual history to their own ends. Which are evil.

The family your saying i'm overblown in my claim of, are the first family, and our family's lines. Why they destroyed us in world war's 1,2. They would have wiped us away entirely then, except for the space nordics, who took away the advanced weaponry the grey filth had given the beasts to destroy us with. Prime is still there, and viable, and the other branch from Ana/Anu resides there. They all have blue eye's, hair the color of the sun.

The grey filth crippled them, E.T.'s are our enemy's, and responsable for our captivity. I do have royal genes, and rather more. During my awakening, it was i who wanted them destroyed, i don't work for them, or the grey filth.

My family has fought them to.

Oh, you mean where the nordics enslaved by the greys work, don't call me closet filth, their deprevation's against me, my family/people will be met with vengence/justice in their downfalls.

In your trying to make people here think the grey filth, and other outsiders are working in our interests, you yourself have betrayed us all.

Now are you satisfied, or are you going to keep up your blather. You know i don't work for either beasts/grey filth, if you think your something special, which you do, else you would'nt be trying to put me down, then go away to your i'm special la la land, where you and your alien filth can twine or something.

As i said, i am human, just not how that is defined when the standards for that were lowered to allow the beasts to infect us. Goodbye.



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 03:52 PM
link   

Originally posted by RaCana
reply to post by Rollzio
 



I would love to, but i've never been very good with pc''s, and lack the equipment to do so, even if i knew how. It would clear at least that up would'nt it.


Somehow I knew you would say that. Or at least, something like it...

Isn't there anything you can share with us to prove your seemingly outlandish claims? Surely you didn't think us simpletons would just take you for your word? You are, after all, a random person amongst this vast network we call the internet. If we believed everything on the internet, of course, we could be led to believe anything, and that's not so good. We might even begin to believe your enemies, and obviously you don't want that. I don't want that either. :O



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 04:18 PM
link   
I gave this thread a chance at the beginning even though it did sound ridiculous, but it has proven to be even more so ridiculous and unbelievable the more you say about it.



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 04:44 PM
link   
reply to post by Rollzio
 


I did'nt start this thread to prove anything, i started it to write the truth/truths about what i myself have experianced learned, it's obvious i can't prove it on the net, but i never said i wanted belief, as belief is not truth/truths, only so called facts[doctored evidence] which enforce your imprisonment in the cage you all live in, which is all lie's as far as history goes.

I really would do what you ask, but i don't have the equipment, even if i could muddle through how to use it, i can barely navigate around the net as it is.

If someone wanted to meet me somewhere for a recorded interview/photo of my eye, not myself you understand, and copy's of the pertainent information that is my great grandfathers, then i would be happy to. But i want a choice in who that may be, not status quo drones who would'nt show afterwards. Which means goverment, certainly not the current public one, as i refuse to mix with outsiders chosen by outsiders/traitors. I don't like communists, those who call themselves socialists today, yet remain the same, as their going to be proving to you all. What i wrote about who they really are is real, and look who helped to put them there, my family's enemy's.

There are also maps of how the world really was in what he left my mother, and i. The letter addressed to me by even my adopted name, long before i was born, would be a shocker i'm sure. My mother wanted to name me Charles when i was born, but Philip my father had said Robert.

Anyway, i understand your problem with what i've been writing, i would share it if i was you and the others as well. I want colddragon to write more about his stuff.



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 04:48 PM
link   
The Penguins have decided to take their rightful place and turn this beautiful garden into the Utopia that it was intended to be. We will free the masses of their shackles of your misguided beliefs and return the world to it's true course in which all can flourish in peace and harmony.



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 04:49 PM
link   
reply to post by cancerian42
 


Well, i can't please everyone, and like i said, i don't want belief, i just want to write it, and hopefully fellow's who read here that do know what i'm saying will respond. like coldDragon, his material is what the white royals actually teach their younglings about our real past/history.

Thank you anyway for giving it a chance enough to read it, whatever you may feel about it. Goodday, and goodbye.



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 04:51 PM
link   
reply to post by The Utopian Penguin
 


Well, the penguins are'nt going to survive whats to come, so their rebellion has been aborted before it could ever begin. Good one.



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 05:12 PM
link   
Not a rebellion,but an honor that was bestowed to us.
A very unique one indeed.



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 05:21 PM
link   
reply to post by RaCana
 


Good answer.
Well, sort of.

As you say, you are providing us with "the truth" which you can only claim as "the truth". By presenting us with this information that you believe yourself, you are in fact implying we should believe you, otherwise there would be no reason to share said "truth" at all. (Never mind the fact that you are posting in a forum for alternative subjects like this one.)

You claim that your stories are true, which in turn means that anyone who believes different is wrong. Whether you want to come off this way or not, that is what it comes down to. Any absolute belief in a certain thing makes the alternatives incorrect. At least, to the person with said absolute belief.

So, in effect, you are presenting your own truth to phase out the alternatives. Which means that others need to regard your stories as "the truth" in place of other stories. This means you are looking for someone to believe you, even though you insist that you're not. Like I said before, there would be no reason to share said truths if you didn't expect someone to believe it. Surely you're trying to create some kind of interest.

Also, even if we go along with the idea that you're not trying to convince anyone, I still think that's a poor excuse for having no proof. I do believe if you are who you say you are, and your truth is the absolute, then it would be prudent to allow us simpletons the honor to know once and for all. (Without expecting blind faith) If you had no intention of letting us know in the first place, then you wouldn't be answering our questions, and you wouldn't have made this thread at all.



Last but not least... I have a question for you, dear RaCana. It is one that I want you to think very deeply about, alright?

Whether you were taught this information, happened upon it in the dusty corners of your attic or perhaps found it somewhere on the internet (as several posters before me have implied), how do you know that you yourself are right in your beliefs? How do you know for a fact that what you believe is the truth? Self-hypnosis is possible, as is delusion and deceit. Information can be faked, and stories can be changed. You yourself admit that history has been rewritten... How do you know that yours is the correct one?

Thank you for your time.



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 07:22 PM
link   

Originally posted by RaCana
I don't reach out anymore, i was going more on your statements in your posts.
i never called it power, only ability's. What i write can be random. The different layered life sequences is what causes the distortions, amoung them is delibrately implaced false information.

Collective consciousness of self/realself/realtrueself, and all that we have endured through the age's. it's more like i already know the facts from several different perspectives of self. Which as you say, can be distorted, especially when there are those whom work to make it so.

From my own understanding, the reason information is so distorted is to keep people in the labyrinth of confusion and unsurity till they reach the point of exhaustion and willingly surrender their free will.

When you talk about "beast", there's only one way for me to understand this, I've tried to understand from so many perspectives, so many rhetorics, and come to the conclusion that the accurate description of "beast" can only be enslavement. The first thing on this planet that enslaves us is our body and its needs, moving on to the things we crave, all the way up to the people who tell us what to do and eventually what to think. Anything and everything that we allow to enslave us is our beast.
That is my own understanding of the word "beast", I'm not understanding how you're using it because it makes no sense. (I'm enjoying this thread, by the way, I find your perspective fascinating.)


There's actual truth behind that legend, and many others, why the people bother to keep them.

Yes but the way many people teach them is literally. Nothing on this changing planet should ever be taken literal if it's over five hundred years old because what happens is it slows progress and impairs improvement.

Besides restore your family's honor, what are you hoping will happen here on earth?

Also, I was considering the reasons for cloning and came up with "Moon Over Parador". Just an interesting idea of why this story-line of yours, the part about you looking just like the prince(?), down to the fingerprints, might be believable.

Is it that you don't have a digital camera that you can't post pictures?



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 08:50 PM
link   
reply to post by Rollzio
 


You did well to, but my point is that beliefs are often what is not real, only what is real is that, and that also includes what happens in the sequences called time, and whom the person is in it.

Your whole thing was written/keyed into belief. Belief is only what you think from your own interpitations, what you except through whatever framework/construct your used to, not what actually is.

Everything i wrote is what actually is, that it is personaly known, does put a crimp in what is defined as proof.

The experiances of a person throughout their life is a story, same as for their live's, and who they were before those live's, experianced in the cycle called life/death.

What is, is, whatever anyone may believe of it, and there's many aspects to that.

[Smiles]



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 09:00 PM
link   
reply to post by RaCana
 


You should reach out RaCana and feel the symphony that is playing.
It's exquisite. So harmonious.



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 09:41 PM
link   
If this universe isn't real, why are you so determined to fight over it?

Perhaps you should ask your gods to simply press the reset button, as the experiment has gotten a bit out of control.

A serious question. Really.

But this thread, as usual, is incredibly confusing. Can you just start telling your story from the Big Bang and stop when you get to the end?

[edit on 22-2-2009 by Eleleth]



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 09:44 PM
link   
reply to post by RaCana
 


Alright, RaCana. You really didn't address anything I said at all. Honestly, I put a lot of time into that post so I'm a bit disappointed. Perhaps I should break it down to be clearer? :O

I understand your stance on "beliefs". It's all according to a person's own experiences in the world, their own brand of reality, of sorts. But, as I said, you are presenting your reality (this bloodline stuff) to be the dominant reality. You are presenting it as fact and nothing else but fact. In essence, you are implying nothing else can possibly be true. Nothing else can possibly be the actual reality that we live in. (Unless we're getting into alternate time lines and alternate realities... )

My question is, while you insist these stories are not in fact "beliefs", how do you know for sure that what you present is real? How do you know 100% that you are not the victim of an illusion just like the rest of us perhaps may be? The idea of Santa Clause may be just as real to a three year old as my keyboard is to me. That doesn't mean a plump old jolly man actually lives at the North Pole.

Do you see what I'm trying to get at?

Why do you think what you "know" is the dominant reality? How can you know that what you present is actual fact and not indeed some elaborate hoax thrust upon you, or created by your own mind? You mentioned several times that you are "learning". It gives the impression that you're inexperienced, and perhaps not entirely informed. Is it possible you might be wrong?

Surely, you must have had some experience(s) in your life which caused you to find these things to be undeniable truths?



posted on Feb, 22 2009 @ 10:21 PM
link   
reply to post by mmariebored
 


The distortments/confusion is beliefs. Consider being of the people, who happens to be a devout christian today, and you hear a voice in your mind addressing you. They put themselves through the whole gambit of their beliefs, and torture themselves with their thinking of them, rather then to stop for a moment, and say hello, what's up? For the voice is your own, making your realself known to you. There is a difference between that, and actual communication with another here, who can do so.

Beast means many thing's, what you wrote one of them. Made constructs of beliefs as to that pupose, enslavement, can be considered that as well.

No arguement, it's but a written record, or all thats allowed of the real happening's of that time period known. It does matter in that those who had been our enemy's in those times are no diffent then some we have today, unknown because of ignorance, and those enemy's have worked to destroy the people in their ignorance. Never let beasts/monsters rule is the moral of all that back then. It still apply's today.

Many thing's actually, but it's to premature to discuss just now, as we have the coming war with the communists, and the forces behind them to deal with first.

In each line of the family's sired by a son of the Dragon, every fourth generation they are reborn, identicle. The Dragon being Cana.

Yes, and my son knows far more about those thing's then i with it all.

In my humble home here i sit.

The blue of my true home surrounds me in my fits[bluesky colored walls, even my car is that color]

Upon my bed, i see the red, of my exalted position to wrap around me[Blanket/pillowcases]

My cloths in tatters, with hardly any worldly goods, i rant and rave, and say to myself, while sitting upon my tattered couch, oh how lucky i am to be me.

For i have no crown, though all i rule, yet crownless i remain.

So i say to you, look to the blue, and you will see me, and you.

And when you do, i see you, then my friend, will we avenge, to you/me/i, whom all belongs to.

Upon our enemy's will we rain, all that they have given.

And in so doing, will the family, and the people be free.

And most of all my son, you whom i love most of all, the father of them all, who are of the people.



new topics

top topics



 
9
<< 3  4  5    7  8 >>

log in

join