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Hidden Spy Camera & Mic Found Inside Digital TV Box

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posted on Feb, 18 2009 @ 11:47 PM
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Why was there never this much frenzy about monitoring when the camera cell phone and web cam came out?

Oh...I remmber now, it was because fear monger propeganda did not exsist in those years....dispite the fact that they were already using those methods to monitor.




Cheers!!!!




posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 12:02 AM
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pssst ................. whant to here a consiracy theory ?

this meme of ` digital converters have cameras / mics and spy on you ` is actually propogated by the manufacturers of the devices

why ? you ask

simple - the build quality is so poor thier estimated service life is shorter than the mandatory 12 month warranty

thus , if they persuade you to open it up - you have voided the warranty and when it fails - they can avoid having to honour the warranty - as its been ` tampered with `

ergo - its a plot by the maker



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 12:07 AM
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Its purpose is for digital television...In which case it would be possible to send info digitally. You do it everytime you order pay-per-view.

Honestly I doubt there's camera's in every box...That may not be a camera...Its hard to take youtube videos seriously being Youtube is full of B.S.

I say open up 10-20 more and see. Until then I'm calling this false.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 12:14 AM
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Some ISP's such as Cox have more bandwidth to play with. My average download is a 25000 kb/s with an upload capped about 3500 kb/s during the day. I don't even have the larger data plan. I could bump my account to a business account and get a 10 mb/s upload.

Not arguing with what you said except the bandwidth could be there for some. Not every camera would broadcast 24/7 if it just recorded when there was movement like most security DVR's.


Anybody who is curious about how much bandwidth they get should go to speedtest.net



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 12:26 AM
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i took a brief trip around the states, holidays,
anywho, i had noticed the forced change from analog to digital, my proverbial hackles stood up, i returned to australia only to find out they're doing it here too...
it would also be important to note that the sending of a live video/audio feed would only be feasible through a digital ST box, or an internet connection, however this would require bandwidth usage, which is slightly impractical,

just a thought
(mods - apologies for digression)



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by Razor1
Finally a conspiracy I could test myself! I just took apart the same exact model ,also purchased from walmart, and there was NO camera or microphone. So let me be the first to say, HOAX!!!


Nice! exact model you say? any chance you could take a few digi snaps and put them up so we can compare?? that would be swwweeettt proof of a hoax



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 12:37 AM
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Its kind of funny that the very next video in that sequence is a guy debunking the camera in the converter theory. He takes one out of the box and opens it and finds nothing. Strange that they would have these videos as first and second in the sequence. Check it out at the bottom of the video is a menu with like 5 video thumbs in it, click on the second one. It wont come up til the end of the video.

[edit on 19-2-2009 by The Anti-Federalist]



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 12:58 AM
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Who will split a box a part like that - Oh, I found a camera and a mic. ?? Eather a great find or a hoax.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 01:34 AM
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The idiocy here never ends!

The box is for people who DO NOT HAVE CABLE...so how is the data gonna get from your house to Big Brother?

I know some people who deal with electronics and I asked them, and they nearly laughed me out of the room. One of them had the same exact box and aggreed to open it...here are teh pics:

full res: img12.imageshack.us...


full res: img22.imageshack.us...


Yup, no camera in there. And furthermore, why teh hell would they mount the camera....to a TRANSFORMER?

Another thread D-BUNKED by teh Dispatcherator.

[edit on 19-2-2009 by The Dispatcherator]



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 01:54 AM
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so.. the supposed camera was mounted there. how would it be able to record THROUGH the front plastic plate thing? doensn't make sence to me.. this
may have been pointed out, haven't read the thread



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 01:56 AM
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Originally posted by makkerskilap
so.. the supposed camera was mounted there. how would it be able to record THROUGH the front plastic plate thing? doensn't make sence to me.. this
may have been pointed out, haven't read the thread


IR can pass through, which is how remote controls work, so in theory you could put a night vision (IR) cam in and it could see out.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 02:06 AM
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For everyone checking their boxes:

If this was true, and was being carried out by the government, a camera and mic in every single converter box would be without a shadow of a doubt evidence of foul-play. However, if they put once in a scattered few of different brand-names, then you leave room for the thought of a hoax.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 02:55 AM
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Sorry if this was already linked to during this thread; I admit I only read the first and last pages. Anyway, I wouldn't dismiss this as a hoax too quickly. What you guys are talking about may be related to the technology they're implementing in public video ads, described here:

Ads that watch you back

Basically, I'm thinking the networks might be looking for new, more accurate (and frankly creepy) ways to get data about the demographics they are appealing to.

P.S. Dispatcherator: I don't know much about electronic hookups or even the nature of the signals being received by these boxes, so for all I know you did a solid job of debunking this. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if they do start implementing something like this on cable boxes, which definitely are capable of transmitting data as well as receiving it.

[edit on 19-2-2009 by Magnus47]



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 03:03 AM
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Not defending OP or the vid posted by OP and not denying your vid but theres clearly a difference in series/batch as the transformer in yours has some yellow something or another around it and the OPs vid doesnt.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 03:08 AM
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Its been brought up a number of times during this thread that it is possible to use the internal ringmain to transmit/transfer data within a unit (house) but not externally due to loss of signal strength, it can be utilised as cabling infrastructure for home networks with the correct adapter but again doubt it would on an external level.

Im not the expert on that matter tho, read through the first few pages of the thead if you havent already theres a number of people here who know their bo and explain it away.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 03:09 AM
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Originally posted by phushion
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Not defending OP or the vid posted by OP and not denying your vid but theres clearly a difference in series/batch as the transformer in yours has some yellow something or another around it and the OPs vid doesnt.


Oooooooooooooooo K, but the digital boxes are for people WHO DO NOT HAVE CABLE. How is the damning video of you wanking it to girls gone wild ads gonna make it back to the government?

[edit on 19-2-2009 by The Dispatcherator]



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 03:13 AM
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Same exact casing but its clear to see the power unit has something yellow around it (tape?) on yours/your friends that differs from the OP vid.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 03:14 AM
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Dont watch TV, cheers pal


And shouldnt you really be saying that they are for those who either dont have cable, sky or a tv with a built in digi tuner.

Not everyone with 300+ channels runs of cable, then again you might be from the other side of the pond, thus its all "cable" to some (alot?) of you peeps.

[edit on 19/2/2009 by phushion]

[edit on 19/2/2009 by phushion]



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 03:31 AM
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Originally posted by Erasurehead
Do you really believe this? What purpose would it serve for the government to have a camera and mic in a digital TV box? All they would see is people staring at their TV scratching themselves. What useful information would they get from this. This is a hoax to get everyone to crack open their digital converter boxes.

However since I am paranoid and do not trust the govermment I am going to open one of my converter boxes when I get home later this evening just to make sure..


[edit on 2/18/2009 by Erasurehead]


what if they want to record and view the RESPONSE in humans when a specific transmission frequency is relayed to them?
say.. a transmission that ups their output of testosterone to make them more aggressive... or anything..

just to monitor the research subjects...
to perfect products and advertising frequencies..
to sell to DoD or homeland security.. or just to get the next round of funding..

do not tell me that someone has not thought of that.

plus it's legal.. they can do it if they want to.. you let them.

you have no idea how valuable modulating the consumer cow's brain is.
and what lengths they'll go to to obtain mastery of that modulation..
hell .. consumer workers are merely extensions of the will of their employers..

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posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 03:40 AM
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Notice the circuit board that the lens/ccd assy attaches to.. same as in the video.

late-nite

See it here or here.




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