posted on Feb, 20 2009 @ 07:00 PM
Originally posted by mattifikation
GM's problem wasn't too many brands. It's building cars that suck. Nobody drives their Cavalier to 150,000 miles, but people do it with Toyotas all
I beg to differ my friend. I once own a Pontiac Sunfire which is the exact same thing as a Chevy Cavalier and I put nearly 120,000 miles on it and
could have easily hit 200k miles and had a S10 pickup that had the same engine as the Sunfire hit 185k miles before the tranny died. I beat the hell
out of that truck every mile of its existence to. You would be really surprised with how many 150k+ mile Sunfire/Cavaliers there are on the road.
The reason that GM cars suck is because they the company skimps on pretty much everything. The quality sucks compared to the price. Their engines
are well made and designed and will last a very long time if taken care of properly. The problem with the engines are that they are severely
underpowered for the price of the vehicles. Both my Sunfire and S10 had the 2.2l engine. The 2.2l had 115HP and 135ft lbs of torque. You don't
know misery till you have tried to drive in a major city with that engine. The worst part is that instead of making a better, newer, more powerful
engine, all they did was to redesign the 2.2 into the 2.4 and they have been shoving that engine into nearly every make they can. My mom test drove a
G6 and she asked me to drive it to see what I thought about it. I jumped in, turned the key and immediately new it had a 2.4 in it. I couldn't
believe it. When you see a Saturn, Pontiac, GM, Chevy that has a 2.2/2.4 engine in it, that engine is a re- designed of an engine that was first
created over 26 years ago, back in 1983.
Even with upgrades it is still an old design in my view. Most companies spend all their money on research and new design. Where the hell did all of
GM's money go to? It certainly wasn't R&D.
After being stuck in the world of 2.2l American cars for nearly 10 years I bought a 2006 VW Jetta and I felt like I was driving a Ferrari when I test
drove it. I told the salesman before we even got back to the dealership that I would never buy American again. My mother is currently stuck in a
Chevy Malibu (2.4l
) and when I drove her to the doctor in my Jetta she said that she was going to buy a VW also. She has never owned a
foreign vehicle her entire life. (She is pushing 70.) Even when she moved to Europe she had her American car shipped over there. Five minutes in my
VW and she said she was done with American cars.
I would also like to say that I also agree with killing the corvette. There is no need to have a 500hp vehicle. Its completely idiotic to buy a car
that can go 200mph and then drive it around town with 45/55mph speed limits. The money that goes into the production of these modern muscle cars can
be put to better use. These cars need to be done away with, the people that love the corvette or other muscle cars will get over it.
[edit on 20-2-2009 by A NeWorlDisorder]