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Originally posted by Jenna
I would think that court rulings would be rather reliable seeing as how I would imagine they probably had experts saying there wasn't a link. Do you have information from someone with reliable credentials saying there definitely is a link? I ask because I have never heard of anyone who works in medicine or science that isn't out to make a buck off of distraught parents saying there definitely is one.
Originally posted by Sara1
I find it somewhat offensive that you'd downplay the situation as just "a child that is difficult to handle", implying the parents/caregivers are just lazy bastards. Sure, the cases and severity varies. But over here it's a great financial expense which is difficult to live up to. He needs physical therapy, he unintentionally destroys things which need to be replaced frequently, and so on. I care for him a lot, he's so much younger than me but already taller than me, which makes it that much more difficult that I have to bathe him. I will have to have him live with me and take care of him until either he or I die. Btw because of his condition he also has a shorter life expectancy so I'm depressedly expecting to outlive him, love the guy.
2006 During National Infant Immunization week, statistics are released that show to date, the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) has paid $1.2 billion to families who have proven that their children suffer permanent disabilities or have died from a vaccine reaction. Less than 25 percent of families who apply through VICP ever get compensated. Many more families never apply for compensation since they do not recognize the symptoms of vaccine damage.
After three years of study, a Medical Working Group representing 180 Swiss medical doctors specializing in general medicine, internal medicine and pediatrics published an article in the Spring 1992 Journal of Anthroposophic Medicine entitled "The Immunization Campaign Against Measles, Mumps and Rubella, Coercion Leading to Uncertainy: Medical Objections to a Continued MMR Immunization Campaign in Switzerland," concluding that mandatory, mass vaccination with MMR vaccine is ineffective and dangerous
Both inoculation and vaccine campaigns have always been fraught with politics and financial interests. Despite the fact that inoculation was outlawed by the British Parliament in 1840, in 1853 The Compulsory Vaccination Act in England was passed by Parliament and every parent was required to have their baby vaccinated within 3 months of birth or face a fine of 20 shillings.
In modern times, we face similar threats that our children won’t be admitted to school unless they are jabbed with the hepatitis B vaccine (a rare syndrome) and whose safety data we have yet to see. The school nurse and Public Health Department, or school admittance policies, should not be used to threaten you that you cannot enroll your kid, based on the madness surrounding the possibility that your 5-year-old will transmit a sexual, or needle-borne, or blood-product-transmitted “syndrome” (that has a 99% or greater spontaneous resolution rate in otherwise healthy individuals), to someone else's 5 year old.
Currently, parents are being threatened that their daughters have a 70% chance of acquiring cervical cancer unless they fork over $300.00 dollars for a series of 3 HPV shots.
Originally posted by Ron Paul Girl
If you travel to a 3rd world country, do you expect the inhabitants to be vaccinated, or do you vaccinate yourself to protect yourself from diseases?
Originally posted by Ron Paul Girl
Actually, I have read that as much as 30% of the population has a natural immunity to flu viruses, so we should count ourselves fortunate. This is, during the pandemic of 1919, there were people that could help the sick and not get the flu themselves, no matter how much they were exposed to it.
Originally posted by Jenna But there has not been a link between autism and vaccines that has been proven. The evidence that says there is one simply does not exist.
Originally posted by TheBeast
reply to post by Lazyninja
But vaccines can also be a big help. Without them smallpox and polio would as common as the flu.
The scientific consensus—including scientific and medical bodies such as the Institute of Medicine and World Health Organization as well as governmental agencies such as the Food and Drug Administration and the CDC—rejects any role for thiomersal in autism or other neurodevelopmental disorders. Multiple lines of scientific evidence have been cited to support this conclusion: for example, the clinical symptoms of mercury poisoning differ significantly from those of autism. Most conclusively, eight major studies (as of 2008) examined the effect of reductions or removal of thiomersal from vaccines. All eight demonstrated that autism rates failed to decline despite removal of thiomersal, arguing strongly against a causative role.
Further evidence of the position of the scientific consensus includes the rejection of a causal link between thimerosal and autism by the main scientific and medical professional bodies including the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American College of Medical Toxicology, the Canadian Paediatric Society, the National Academy of Sciences, the Food and Drug Administration, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the World Health Organization, the Public Health Agency of Canada, and the European Medicines Agency.
Originally posted by Unit541
I think you are a little confused. Do you know how vaccines work? When you are vaccinated against a disease, you DO get the disease, it's in the vaccine.
Well sure, the human race has been able to survive for thousands of years without vaccines. But we've also survived without anesthesia. But I don't think that people want to get rid of that either.
Just because something has a harmful affect on .0001 percent of the population doesn't mean we should get rid of it.
If I may quietly say so, I have never had any sort of vaccine and have never been sick with even the common cold. I am by no means a clean freak; I have eaten peices of food off of many a floor and even some sidewalks!
Originally posted by steve_montana
The thiomersal issue is no longer of any importance as the preservative isn't used anymore in the US and the European Union (Bigham & Copes, 2005).