Originally posted by zazzafrazz
Imagine if you walk into a art galley and you notice a couple of pictures from ancient greece.
You then return to the gallery and notice other pictures from the renaissance,
Another trip and you notice the floor is carpet and the ceiling is white. another trip and you modern art on the other walls...and so on. We have
different experiences of it, but the room and all thats in it is always there.
Its our experiencing the different aspects of the room that makes us experience time. And so..... we come in and out we experience time through
different moments, different things, but the 'room' was always there.
Im bumping this thread, Because I think it should have more discussion put to it.
What I was saying above, I have found in a article on Time.
The most starightforward conculsion is that past and future are indeed fixed, for this reason Physicists prefer to see time as laid out in its
entirety, a time scape.....with all past and future events located there together
issuu.com...
We apply time. We sence time psycologically. Physics and math sence it differently.
Time allows us to experience infinity.
We experience different aspects of infinity.
It exists, but not as we apply it.
Neither scientists nor Philosphers really know what time is or why it exists. The best thing they can say is it is akin (but not identical to)
space. For example the 2 dimensional orbit of the moon through space can be thought of as a 3 dimensional corkscrew through time and space
Our application of time is:
of past present and future...is this time? We imply the movement or passing of time, but flux is the movement of an object and is it a "matter" of
time, or a "question' of time. If its matter in a object in flux...nope, More likely a quesiton of time...It exists to allow the experience of
infinty.
With the movement of time, Relative to what does it move? Other types of motion relate one physical process to another, the putative flow of time
relates to only time itself, Posing the simple question, "how does time pass?"
The Fact that time can be treated as a fourth dimension does not mean it is identical to the 3 dimensions of space. Time and Space enter into
expierience and physical theory in distinct ways. For example to formula for calcualting space time distances is not the same as calculatng spacial
distances.
THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN SPACE TIME UNDERPINS THE KEY NOTION OF CAUSALITY, STOPPING CAUSE AND EFFECT FROM BEING HOPELESSLY JUMBLED.
On the ther hand other physicists believe on the smallest scale of size and duration, space and time may lose their seperate identities
issuu.com...
EDIT...NB your string theory/Higgs conundrum....Standard model-nope cant account for Higgs /....A supersymmetric Standard Model can.
One of the main motivations for SUSY comes from the quadratically divergent contributions to the Higgs mass squared. The quantum mechanical
interactions of the Higgs boson causes a large renormalization of the Higgs mass and unless there is an accidental cancellation, the natural size of
the Higgs mass is the highest scale possible. This problem is known as the hierarchy problem. Supersymmetry reduces the size of the quantum
corrections by having automatic cancellations between fermionic and bosonic Higgs interactions. If supersymmetry is restored at the weak scale, then
the Higgs mass is related to supersymmetry breaking which can be induced from small non-perturbative effects explaining the vastly different scales in
the weak interactions and gravitational interactions. In many supersymmetric Standard Models there is a heavy stable particle (such as neutralino)
which could serve as a WIMPs (weakly interacting massive particles) dark matter candidate. The existence of a supersymmetric dark matter candidate is
closely tied to R-parity.
en.wikipedia.org...
[edit on 3-11-2009 by zazzafrazz]