Chevalerous and Mika,
I believe you are confusing interpersonal relations with socialism.
In interpersonal relations there is no redistribution of wealth. There is no division, there is no exchange to which persons are subjects.
The socialist model where engineers are paid more than workers is a modified Plato's idealistic state, where state is the highest good!
I do not defend elite. The way you understand elite, it is part of society differentiation.
In my world, the elite are only the ones who possess wisdom, and they are never part of society. They are beyond it, they are on the margins, mystics,
artists, sages, call them whatever you want. But they have no social function.
So I am saying that society can never be based on personal relationship. In personal relationship there is no distribution of responsibility.
This is why socialism is not possible, because society without differentiation is not possible. It is a matter of principle, not of my elitist
Where there is differentiation, there is inequality. So who in socialism decides how much an engineer or manager will be paid? Workers? Would they
know to evaluate those things? This is where the idea of ideal society falls apart.
When I say that the poor are irresponsible, it is because they blame others.
Education is free everywhere. You can educate yourself, but you need to want that. I went to school, but if I compare what I learned in school to that
I learned in my own time and thanks to my own effort, the school only gave me some basic insight and lots of misinformation and misinterpretation.
Of course I would like to see more just distribution of wealth. But now we are back again to ethics...
How many people are capable of being fair and honest? Who is to blame? The rich elite? I think those who allowed themselves to be enslaved are even
more responsible for all injustice, because they shut their mouth for a very low price.
I can recommend the book by Mario Puzo, or film after this book, "The Sicilian". At the end of film, after a successful revolution, it is the poor
who are such cowards, they don't want to accept responsibility of running a society. They just want to be GIVEN what they need. I find this
conclusion very accurate in historical frame. Majority of working class is very immoral. That is from my experience, and idealism has nothing to do
I am artist and all my work is free. There are many places on the internet where you can learn something, even some critical knowledge.
I will repeat the link that was already posted here:
You don't need money to read this. Just print it or read from the screen. I guarantee this is the quality of best philosophical work, this is
Buddhism applied to modern situation, or Spinoza at its best. So what is the problem? I don't see that the society can prevent you from educating
yourself. It is always wrong to blame others, it is wrong because that way you succumb to the emotion of self pity. And that is the worst possible
thing that can happen to a man.
[edit on 20-2-2009 by DangerDeath]