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RED ALERT: FX Dislocation In Process

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posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 03:01 PM

Originally posted by antar
Forum is LOCKED... bad looking for US

Yes High trading/activity days the forum is locked to non-subscribers.

Market Ticker is always available

posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 03:01 PM
reply to post by seb118

You're right. The only way to solve the deficit to China without inflating the currency is to just sell them our assetts.

Smart move for China. Complete folly for the US. I'm sure everyone in Washington is sitting there scratching their heads wondering how it got this far in the first place.

There is a reason why China is the oldest civ on the planet.

posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 03:02 PM
next low to be tested is 6900.......then who knows???

If anybody short the market as r had laid out...with his picks... a few months ago just made a whole lot of money.

posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 03:04 PM
Looks like it closed down -297.96 (3.8%)

Lower than before the 'Simulus that swindled us' was signed.

posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 03:04 PM
reply to post by Tentickles

I don't know that it will go much lower. I've stated since very early on, that I believed the bottom was around 7,500... I came to that conclusion because of the commentary of a fellow member here who I don't remember at this time, but it made sense.

7500 was the mark that the DOW was at before the predatory lending practices, that caused this entire mess, began...
That's where it will return to.

People still say they don't see the bottom. If that is true and it DOES go below 7,500, then we have more issues to get to the bottom of.

posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 03:08 PM
reply to post by Dbriefed

Prof. Emeritus posted a pretty good video earlier. I don't know if you watched it, but it is worth watching.

Basically what it tells us is that the Gov. can keep spending this insane amount of money, in the hopes that we will spend money also, until the cows come home. However, it won't work. People, including the investors, have realized this is the wrong course of action.

The government "solutions" will not work - period. The people aren't buying it. They are just giving themselves and their buddies more and more money thinking that the flow of money will solve things. Soon they will have to wake up and realize that it is time to hunker down and save...

I'm afraid that by then, it will be far too late. They will have created a situation that DEMANDS to be shut down. Or it will never cease.

posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 03:11 PM
reply to post by Power_Semi

Click on the "Chg." link next to units: levels on that graph. Notice that since TARP I the graph has actually dropped back down to what could be called an almost normal change rate. Now realize that when TARP II is carried out it's going to spike a second time, this time even higher than before. People like to talk about the volatillity of the market lately, that crap can't hold a candle to the freaking volatillity the Fed is injecting into the monetary system... and they're doing it for no good damned reason whatsoever. What a crying shame.

posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 03:18 PM
reply to post by ProfEmeritus

No money for war? Someone should have told Roosevelt that.War seems to be the best way to get out from under a severe depression.

posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 03:19 PM
Not sure if anyone has found this yet-

SINGAPORE has set up a deal with the United States Federal Reserve that will ensure banks here have sufficient access to US dollars if they need them.

The Monetary Authority of Singapore said yesterday it has joined the central banks of Brazil, Mexico and Korea in establishing temporary swap lines with the Fed, which will provide US$30 billion (S$44 billion) of greenback liquidity in each country.

What is the swap facility for?
The swap facility is only a 'precautionary measure' at this point in time, MAS said yesterday. If global conditions deteriorate and banks in Singapore experience difficulties in obtaining US-dollar funding, they can turn to MAS for assistance. In turn, MAS can use the swap facility to exchange Singapore dollars for US dollars directly with the Fed.

This will increase the availability of US dollars to banks and help to prevent borrowing costs from spiking.
... more
The move, a first for Singapore, is aimed at improving liquidity in global financial markets and easing potential difficulties in obtaining US dollars, MAS said in a statement.

The cost of borrowing US dollars has spiked recently as banks become more cautious about lending to one another.

But the Singapore central bank stressed that the swap line, available until April 30 next year, is simply a 'precautionary measure' for now, much like the recent decision to guarantee all bank deposits here.

for those of you who don't know, Singapore is akin to the UAE in Asia. I have many friends from there... everyone is rich and well educated etc. Funny-- no one i met from singapore has ever spoken anything but English. Its their first and only language... most laugh or act disgusted when I inquire what their native language is. "its english, you dummy!"

ya, im the dummy.

posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 03:20 PM
reply to post by burdman30ott6

They're injecting false value into the markets... and dragging this slow motion stock crash out for months at a time

They should just leave it alone, let the markets find true value... Save all this BS capital injection cash and use it for humanitarian relief and the like to get the economy back on track AFTER the true value has been discovered...

call it... Ripping off a band aid lol Just do it quick! get it over with!

posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 03:24 PM
reply to post by daddyroo45

I would like to think there are two classifications of "war".... 1) Regular war, like Vietnam or Iraq. 2) WAR, like WW2..
Of course WAR is going to shake things up. Everyone is involved and to the winner go the spoils. However, war, amidst the pressures of every day life, especially now that the economy is global, does nothing to help. It is just a way to spend a bunch of damned money.
When you couple that with the fact that you are outsourcing your jobs and not BRINGING IN money, war, at this point, is detrimental to your economy.

posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 03:39 PM
reply to post by chaeone86

Feds had a Swap Window open for months now...just pulling in new countrys...injecting more now?

posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 03:43 PM
reply to post by nj2day

I this NWO...what if there is no money...everybody works/makes stuff and pass it out to those who don't... create a lot of jobs just trying to fill africa/asia/india...everybody would have what ever they want...Super Socialism!!!!

just go about yer professions...go to wal-mart get whatever ya need ...walk no problemo...hang when ya want...heck the world has so much excess manufactoring capacity it could be done...

Eastern Europe is about to Blow

And h...e...r...e we gooooooooooo...

NZX 50 FF GROSS INDEX 2,640.09 -32.53 -1.22% 17:17
NZX TOP 10 INDEX 780.26 -8.05 -1.02% 17:17
NZX 15 GROSS INDEX 4,877.18 -54.51 -1.11% 17:17
NZX ALL INDEX 670.77 -7.44 -1.10% 17:03

New Zealand 1st to open...

[edit on 2/17/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 05:03 PM
reply to post by daddyroo45

No money for war? Someone should have told Roosevelt that.War seems to be the best way to get out from under a severe depression.

Actually, I was talking about the European countries that are tanking. The "US always seems to have money for war, but if no one else goes to war, who will the US fight?

posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 05:08 PM
reply to post by ProfEmeritus

If it does happen probley be $ for a sustained campaign...people just tired...#^@&

maybe everyone will start singing the Coke song or "come on people now, smile on yer brother, everybody get together, gotta luv one another right now..."

[edit on 2/17/2009 by Hx3_1963]

posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 05:27 PM
A member on this thread last night INSISTED that this thread had been debunked. I won't mention the name, because I'm not trying to embarrass anyone. However, this does show that it is wrong to try to cut off debate because a single person BELIEVES, without any proof, that the thread had been debunked. Here is that member's quote:

However, now that the original premise was debunked, this thread is pretty much done.

Well, you ready to admit that most of us were right, when we chided you that the thread had NOT been debunked?

Redhatty said:

I won't actually call it debunked until we see Europe do fine.

I told you:

If you believe that this has been debunked, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

nj2day said:

lol eastern europe isn't going to do fine... they've got a timebomb over there...

and Mercenary2007 put it very well:

debunked my butt! this thing isn't debunked until europe and the U.S. markets open! If they do fine today then you might be able to claim this thread debunked.

I don't usually bring up things like this, but you were very insistent that we didn't know what we were talking about, and this was all about nothing.
Well, CNBC just said that what happened in Asia last night was the worst event so far in this entire worldwide crisis, and that the reverberations will be felt for years.

So to Redhatty, who posted this thread, and those who did the research, and concluded that something was going on, nice going.
This is what ATS is all about.

posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 05:34 PM
Yea yea yeahh!! Ahh Yea yea yeah!!! Good job thread starter!


Can anyone tell me what this means to us everyday folk. I listen to Lindsey Williams on Feb 9th on AJ show, and he was said some pretty scary stuff. Can anyone comment?


posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 05:37 PM
EUR-USD 1.2584 -0.0218 -1.70% 16:53
GBP-USD 1.4240 -0.0058 -0.41% 16:53
AUD-USD 0.6348 -0.0155 -2.38% 16:53
NZD-USD 0.5078 -0.0094 -1.82% 16:53

Well I thing somethings up...Asia Market Currencys took a hit...

and look what happens when you trade $25B Oil for Debt to China...

USD-RUB 36.3430 1.2810 3.65% 16:53

posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 05:52 PM
reply to post by ProfEmeritus


If any of you play the market, I hope this thread helped you keep (and really hope you managed to make) some money by being aware of it.

Dollar strengthening IS STILL going on on many crosses. What started late last night may not be finished yet.

If there is a God, may he/she/it help those poor souls in Eastern European countries

posted on Feb, 17 2009 @ 05:57 PM
reply to post by redhatty

Someone inside made some $ on that Russian Oil for debt swap too...

[edit on 2/17/2009 by Hx3_1963]

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