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Most Republican governors have broken with their GOP colleagues in Congress and are pushing for passage of President Barack Obama's economic aid plan that would send billions to states for education, public works and health care.
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The 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, scheduled meetings in Washington this weekend with Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and other senators to press for her state's share of the package.
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But states are coping with severe budget shortfalls and mounting costs for Medicaid, the health insurance program for the poor. So governors, including most Republicans, are counting on the spending to help keep their states afloat.
Rep. John Mica was gushing after the House of Representatives voted Friday to pass the big stimulus plan.
"I applaud President Obama's recognition that high-speed rail should be part of America's future," the Florida Republican beamed in a press release.
Yet Mica had just joined every other GOP House member in voting against the $787.2 billion economic recovery plan.
Originally posted by infolurker
Well, Could be that nobody had time to read the damned bill before it was voted on ?
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by infolurker
Well, Could be that nobody had time to read the damned bill before it was voted on ?
I have been reading about this on the Internet and have had access to the various revisions of the bill on the Internet for a couple weeks now. It's been in the works and on the Internet in all its revisions for a month before the vote. I have been hearing on the news every little objection and speech and thought from the politicians and pundits about it.
How anyone can claim that they "didn't have a chance" to read it is absurd. I realize some may have chosen not to keep up on it, but that is their own choice. And whether someone voted for it or against it without reading it is a fault of that person alone.
Voting against it without reading it is as bad as voting for it without reading it. They should have been keeping up with this most important bill that they've known was coming for months now.
I take it you disagree with the theory, then.
[edit on 16-2-2009 by Benevolent Heretic]
Just playing devils advocate here, but where have you been the last 8 years? The Bush administration squandered our surplus and now you say the Dems want needless spending? Something doesn't sound right here
I believe that is what they are attempting to do, bring the party back to its founding principles, which is in stark contrast to the Bush Era ideology (thankfully).
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
We all know Republicans are good at being hypocrites, Benevolent Heretic. It's what they've done the last 8 years. I want to see a change from them...
Originally posted by GuyverUnit I
I believe that is what they are attempting to do, bring the party back to its founding principles, which is in stark contrast to the Bush Era ideology (thankfully). Will it work.....?
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
We all know Republicans are good at being hypocrites, Benevolent Heretic. It's what they've done the last 8 years. I want to see a change from them...
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to post by nj2day
Just playing devils advocate here, but where have you been the last 8 years? The Bush administration squandered our surplus and now you say the Dems want needless spending? Something doesn't sound right here.
Congressional Republicans Want Stimulus Bill to Fail
Under the provisions in the stimulus bill, states will once again be paid a bounty for expanding their welfare rolls. As reported by Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation, the federal government will now pay states 80 percent of the cost for each new family they sign up for welfare. That means that states will get $4 for every $1 they spend. This will leave the main welfare program, Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF), with a funding mechanism similar to the one that supports Medicaid. As Brian Blase argues here, Medicaid’s funding ratio, which gives states $1 to $3 for every dollar they spend, has caused state Medicaid spending to skyrocket. If Medicaid’s dollar-for-dollar model has proved ruinous, Obama’s new $4-to-$1 ratio for welfare will prove, in all likelihood, four times so.
One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446). These provisions in the stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in his 2008 book, “Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis.” According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and “learn to operate less like solo practitioners.”
The stimulus bill does that, and calls it the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research (190-192). The goal, Daschle’s book explained, is to slow the development and use of new medications and technologies because they are driving up costs. He praises Europeans for being more willing to accept “hopeless diagnoses” and “forgo experimental treatments,” and he chastises Americans for expecting too much from the health-care system.
Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.
In October of 1939 amid the turmoil of the outbreak of war Hitler ordered widespread "mercy killing" of the sick and disabled. Code named "Aktion T 4," the Nazi euthanasia program to eliminate "life unworthy of life" at first focused on newborns and very young children. Midwives and doctors were required to register children up to age three who showed symptoms of mental retardation, physical deformity, or other symptoms included on a questionnaire from the Reich Health Ministry. A decision on whether to allow the child to live was then made by three medical experts solely on the basis of the questionnaire, without any examination and without reading any medical records. Each expert placed a + mark in red pencil or - mark in blue pencil under the term "treatment" on a special form. A red plus mark meant a decision to kill the child. A blue minus sign meant a decision against killing. Three plus symbols resulted in a euthanasia warrant being issued and the transfer of the child to a 'Children's Specialty Department' for death by injection or gradual starvation. The decision had to be unanimous. In cases where the decision was not unanimous the child was kept under observation and another attempt would be made to get a unanimous decision.
Further, I keep hearing TV News Journalists asking Congressional Republicans to name something in the bill that they disagreed with. And their responses are invariably either very general: "There was just too much pork and not enough stimulus" or they answer with something that would CLEARLY be stimulative (create jobs) but has the "feel" of pork. Say a railway in a certain state. When pressed about the "pork" being stimulative, they changed the subject to a dig about Obama's unwillingness to show bipartisanship and the circular argument could begin again...