reply to post by OldThinker
The only one who speaks of "jesus" is the Bible, for you to interpret any other writings or character in other writings as "jesus" is false.
There were no other son of God in any of those writings. Prophets, Messiah's, Holy People yes, but no the son of God.
And I am very intellectually pure, that is mostly the reason I can't believe in organized religion because the history and the "logic" show me that
it's been used as a vehicle for power, corruption and murder ever since it was created.
Now that's besides the point. Now it seems to me that you are somewhat of a liberal Christian who's not blinded by his faith, yet you make claims
that if Jesus didn't exist, neither would we. That begs the question stated in a previous post.
Does your claim mean that humans did not exist before Jesus? Is it all a mass conspiracy, created ancient texts and artififacts? I think not friend,
logic would tell me that Humans have existed with the same general Bone Structure and DNA for thousands of years...before Jesus ever set foot on the
Now with all of that said, I am not saying that you're wrong as in, it could never happen and there is no God/Jesus as Christians put it, but there
is far too much distortion of information and change in the general social complex of the world, to make a 2000 year old prophetic work still
I preach the gospel of I Don't Know, because truly I do not, and neither do you. Any christian that wants to say that they KNOW heaven and hell
exists and that they've spoken to their savior and to god were the victims of self-fufilling prophecy created from years of indoctrination,
memorization and chastisement for "sins".
I will agree that we are all sinners and that we are all born imperfect that much I know to be true, but it's most certainly not out of some twisted
sense of humour for a higher power.
Everything was created from one concious thought, one energy that filled and created within the void of infinite darkness. It is a web of life, not a
singular being that controls and directs all things and decides their fate. We are here to choose our own fate and to progress accordingly.
That is my belief and my opinion, and although you have every right to tell me I am wrong, my beliefs prevent you from changing my mind, which is why
having discussions about religion is pointless, because nobody but God himself could change any religious person's mind about what they believe to be