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reply posted on 18-2-2009 @ 01:59 PM by xmotex
I believe the F-12B was intended to have a strike capability using the AGM-76, the AN/ASG-18 fire control system originally developed for the F-108 was designed to control both the AIM-47 AAM (predecessor to AIM-54 Phoenix) and AGM-76.

I believe the YF-12 did fire some ten or so XAGM-76A's during testing.

The production version of AGM-76 would have had an optional 250kt nuclear warhead.


reply posted on 18-2-2009 @ 02:06 PM by fritz
Originally posted by RichardPrice Also, the SR-71 did not fly in 'space', ever.


I think you'll find that it may have done, on a mission to mission basis. The Blackbird's operational ceiling has been set at 'over' 85,000 feet or 16 miles:
www.fas.org...

This is beyond the earth's atmosphere and, as far as most people are concerned, this is where 'space' begins:

www.astroprofspage.com/archives/80

However, I am willing to concede the point if you are an AstroPhysicist - like me!



reply posted on 18-2-2009 @ 02:35 PM by RichardPrice
Originally posted by fritz
Originally posted by RichardPrice Also, the SR-71 did not fly in 'space', ever.


I think you'll find that it may have done, on a mission to mission basis. The Blackbird's operational ceiling has been set at 'over' 85,000 feet or 16 miles:
www.fas.org...

This is beyond the earth's atmosphere and, as far as most people are concerned, this is where 'space' begins:

www.astroprofspage.com/archives/80

However, I am willing to concede the point if you are an AstroPhysicist - like me!


The commonly accepted boundary of 'space' is 328,000 feet, 62.1 miles, or 100km - the Kármán line, being the height at which you must maintain your altitude via orbital velocity rather than aerodynamic lift.

NASA also defines an astronaut, or someone who has been into space, as someone who achieves an altitude of more than 264,000 feet, 50 miles or 80km.

The SR-71 never, ever got anywhere near 'space', by any accepted definition.


reply posted on 3-3-2009 @ 06:05 PM by Zaphod58
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Low altitude didn't have as much to do with it. The Concorde was capable of causing damage going supersonic at 50,000 feet. They can cause just as much damage from overpressure at high altitude as at low. The shape of the aircraft has a lot to do with it.


reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 12:06 AM by Zaphod58
reply to post by xmotex



As far as I know the YF-12/F-12 was going to carry only Air to Air missiles. They weren't designed for ground attack weapons. They were only going to use the GAR-9/AIM-47 missiles. They DID have a low yield nuclear warhead for the AIM-47.

The AIM-76 project was headed by the YF-12 SPO, and used many of the same components as the -47.


reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 12:21 AM by xmotex
The Wikipedia entry for AGM-76 mentions that it was intended for the nuclear strike mission on the F-108 Rapier and later the F-12B, but I know I've come across other discussions of the F-12B's intended secondary strike role as well.

I will see if I can find better documentation.

EDIT: here is secondary documentation at Encyclopedia Astronautica.

[edit on 3/4/09 by xmotex]


reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 02:39 PM by Zaphod58
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That's the only page that I've come across that mentions the F-12 and the -76. All of the information that I've ever come across says that the YF-12A only fired betwee 3 and 7 shots, all AIM-47s. The F-12B never flew so it couldn't have fired anything..


reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 03:33 PM by ajsr71
Originally posted by Zaphod58
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post by xmotex



That's the only page that I've come across that mentions the F-12 and the -76. All of the information that I've ever come across says that the YF-12A only fired betwee 3 and 7 shots, all AIM-47s. The F-12B never flew so it couldn't have fired anything..



7, AIM-47 Shots between Mach 2.16 an 3.26. All AIM-47

The firing on 04/25/66 hit the target (QB-47) Flying at 1100 feet, the YF-12 was at 75,000 and Mach3.22- nose on shot
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