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Does Michelle O's pose on Vogue indicate New False Flag Attack on March 10?

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posted on Feb, 18 2009 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by Bombeni
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That Tarpley guy seems to believe Obama is a puppet for the financial controllers. It is pretty evident, considering during Obama's campaign he mesmerized all these people into believing he was only there to help the average American. Now, out of over 800 billion dollars something like 90 percent of it is going straight to corporate America. Everything kinda feels like we are in fast forward now if that makes sense. It's time to wake up and smell the coffee. Suddenly all these puzzle pieces are starting to fit together, that our govt. was fully aware and stepped aside to let 911 happen, and now we are being conditioned to give in to a collapse where we will be putty in their hands. I'm coming to terms with many things in a short period of time.


People are starting to wake up fast. I hope it's fast enough. Both parties are puppets working for the British Zionists, and they do have concentration camps and they are going to put us in them. I hear they are preparing for mass burials near Chicago, have camps readied, and this March 10 thing I'm thinking might be aimed at Chicago.

That's where Obama's territory is, also Rahm Emanuel's, and maybe they want to eliminate a lot of evidence. You heard about the three murders of the homosexual church members in Obama's church back in 2007? All killed execution style, and Larry Sinclair said it was because they knew too much about Obama. If you know stuff and don't blow the whistle, they kill you before you can.

That's how it goes. Everybody knows.




posted on Feb, 18 2009 @ 10:58 AM
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If it were like that though seems like they would have taken Larry Sinclair out too. I think Sinclair is a sleezeball but I believe him, all of it, the sex in the limo, the crack smoking. I don't think Obama was what you call a crackhead but I certainly believe he has partaken when the urge hit him. Oprah too.

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posted on Feb, 18 2009 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Bombeni
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If it were like that though seems like they would have taken Larry Sinclair out too. I think Sinclair is a sleezeball but I believe him, all of it, the sex in the limo, the crack smoking. I don't think Obama was what you call a crackhead but I certainly believe he has partaken when the urge hit him. Oprah too.

[edit on 18-2-2009 by Bombeni]


No. Larry started hollering, went public big time. Now they can't touch him because if they do he gets credibility.

That's what happened to the DC Madam -- she would not release her lists and blow the whistle while she had the chance, so they just killed her to make darned sure she DIDN'T release them.

Have you ever listened to Rev. Manning online? Whew, does he blast Obama, also Oprah, has connections to people in Chicago and knows a lot of stuff. Says Obama is a bisexual (he calls him a lot of names, mac-daddy, stuff like that), and says Oprah is a lesbian, also Rev. Wright, that Obama and he are/were lovers.

I do know Michelle Obama is pushing the envelope painting her eyebrows like a dominatrix Satanist and flashing the el diablo on the cover of Vogue Magazine.

[edit on 18-2-2009 by Salt of the Earth]



posted on Feb, 18 2009 @ 11:28 AM
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Yeah you're right, if Sinclair was killed in any way the heat would have been on Obama's camp. Don't you think it is strange that the media stayed so far away from that Sinclair story? I admit, it is sleezy story but has that ever stopped them before? I never quite got that.

I'll have to look up that guy you mentioned. I don't doubt one bit of that about Oprah. Does she paint the eyebrows too? Do you think she is part of the illuminati?



posted on Feb, 18 2009 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by Bombeni
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Yeah you're right, if Sinclair was killed in any way the heat would have been on Obama's camp. Don't you think it is strange that the media stayed so far away from that Sinclair story? I admit, it is sleezy story but has that ever stopped them before? I never quite got that.

I'll have to look up that guy you mentioned. I don't doubt one bit of that about Oprah. Does she paint the eyebrows too? Do you think she is part of the illuminati?


Not strange at all. That's why they call it the "controlled media." Just like Vogue is controlled. It's like five owners I think own all of TV, Radio and Press.

What the media completely stayed away from and most people don't even know about is the three MURDERS of the homosexuals in Obama's church, who were all killed EXECUTION STYLE in 2007. Larry Sinclair says it was because they knew too much about Obama.

As to the eyebrows, you have to notice that Michelle Obama has no eyebrows. She has these thin lines drawn on as a scowl. It is the "style," goes with her el diablo. I will be you she is a dominatrix to Barry. Condi's eyebrows are the same, and Condi was said to be a dominatrix, liked to wear leather, parade in front of the troops in black leather stiletto nazi boots.



posted on Feb, 18 2009 @ 11:51 AM
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Wowee, now that's juicy. lol

I am going to look for that murder info. Probably a youtube about it. I did hear about the gay church pianist/organist being killed but never heard there were three people. It is amazing that this stuff stays out of the public eye. Well, no not really amazing not anymore now that I am seeing the pieces fitting together.



posted on Feb, 18 2009 @ 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by Bombeni
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Wowee, now that's juicy. lol

I am going to look for that murder info. Probably a youtube about it. I did hear about the gay church pianist/organist being killed but never heard there were three people. It is amazing that this stuff stays out of the public eye. Well, no not really amazing not anymore now that I am seeing the pieces fitting together.


American Free Press, Victor Thorn has an article, quotes from the police reports, etcetera.

Yeah, the media is evil. Nothing but lies and distractions. The media hyped Obama into the presidency. McCain was a ringer as they say, ran to lose, knew he'd lose, didn't care.

They pick the candidates, then to make sure we vote in the right one they hype the one they want and make sure the machines are rigged anyway in the off chance people might not fall for the propaganda.

Not that I'd ever vote for McCain, God forbid. I didn't even vote at all last election, first time in my life.

Our country is cooked.



posted on Feb, 18 2009 @ 04:27 PM
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Ifeel sorry for you , I really do. The first president in living memory to communicate with the public on an equal level and you rave on about his wife and Devil symbolism. Are you American? If you are it helps me understand why it took so long to get a president like Obama.



posted on Feb, 18 2009 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
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Since you're not a mason but the masons like and trust you enough to lend you their Morals and Dogma book (from what I understand, that is a high honor, that most of them don't even own it until they get high enough) --

Not really. Back when I first got interested in Masonry beyond basic conspiracy theories, I asked about where I could pick up a copy. Fellow here on the forums sent me a copy. The book's available at Barnes and Nobles, Borders, Books a Million, ect. Some libraries will also offer the book, most will have it available for order.
There are several sites that offer the book online for free, either through download or viewable on the site. I've copied the book in it's entirety to a word document to make it easily searchable.
As for it's use, it was officially retired and replaced by A Bridge to Light back in '74. It used to be recommend that a member joining the Scottish Rite at least have the book, or they'd have it presented to them.




can you ask any of your Freemason friends what they think about the cover of Vogue with MO on it regarding the March 10 thing?


Why don't you ask them? There are several on this forum. Either U2U them or post in the thread "Ask a Mason."


Thanks so much for whatever you can do. March 10 is coming up. It would be nice to get another occultic's opinion on that cover.

CUG and Masonic Light are two of the most knowledgeable people on the occult that I know of on this forum. In my opinion, it seems their general knowledge surpasses many people's specific knowledge.

Now, about that link:
www.thetruthseeker.co.uk...


More than a hundred years ago, a known Satanist and leading Freemason may have anticipated the recent events in London. Albert Pike’s plan was to foment three world wars with the third and final war opening the way for the introduction of a new global faith, a religion that would have Lucifer as its idol.


That seems to be combining the supposed letter to Mazzini with Leo Taxil's Hoax.
Pike was not a Satanist, he was Episcopalian. The supposed letter from Pike to Mazzini has no recorded existence, doesn't match his writing profile, and uses terms that didn't come into existence until long after his death.
Albert Pike never studied at Harvard, he was accepted, but didn't have the funds to be admitted. They expected 2 years tuition up front, something he couldn't afford.
Pike was accused of treason as was every Southern general, and pardoned, as were many of the Southern Generals, his being a Mason had nothing to do with it.
Fact is, Jackson's disdain and Pike's support of Native Americans would have probably caused no small amount of friction between them.



Pike was said to be a Satanist, who indulged in the occult, and he apparently possessed a bracelet which he used to summon Lucifer, with whom he had constant communication. He was the Grand Master of a Luciferian group known as the Order of the Palladium (or Sovereign Council of Wisdom), which had been founded in Paris in 1737.

That part is straight from the Leo Taxil Hoax.

The rest of the link has to do with the aforementioned material. My best advice would be to read Morals and Dogma and Albert Pike's biography, which can be read here: A Life of Albert Pike

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posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 06:54 AM
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My understanding is that the Morals and Dogma offered to the public is not the same one that the high up Masons get to own. That book is very hard to get your hands on.

The people who study the Masons and report on them don't use the popular book that's put out to the public.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by Salt of the Earth
 


Ifeel sorry for you , I really do. The first president in living memory to communicate with the public on an equal level and you rave on about his wife and Devil symbolism. Are you American? If you are it helps me understand why it took so long to get a president like Obama.


If you mean he's got a great personality and a lot of charisma, I agree. He does. But it's what you do and not what you say that counts. And he's expanding the wars, starting new ones, hiring very bad people who are stealing the treasury blind and selling the country out from underneath us, now he's got massive gun control going where nobody but nobody will be able to own a gun, and the troops in the streets. If that's not enough, he wants a universal draft and to arm the young people into a huge army and turn them loose on the populace. Those people who don't appear green enough, whose houses look too big or too wasteful or whatever will be at their mercy.

I don't care what the president looks like or how charming he is or is not. I care about my freedom and that the Constitution and the Republic is restored.

I know a lot of friendly people with a nice smile. Doesn't mean I want them running my life. And our current president is a puppet, and the one who is really running the country right now is a guy named Rahm Emanuel, and he is dual-citizen Israeli, Mossad. Which means America is a puppet state to Israel.

Maybe you like that idea, but I do not like it at all.

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posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
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My understanding is that the Morals and Dogma offered to the public is not the same one that the high up Masons get to own. That book is very hard to get your hands on.

The people who study the Masons and report on them don't use the popular book that's put out to the public.




Yes, actually, it's the same book.
They just hack at the quotes and string them together again. I've already shown you that the major quotes you've pulled are from different parts of the book itself. that were put together to make it fit your site's agenda.
You'll notice that the same quotes keep getting used over and over again.
Having read the book, there are several better quotes that they could use, seeing as how they are big on taking them out of context, or putting together unrelated text to make their points.



[edit on 19-2-2009 by RuneSpider]



posted on Feb, 20 2009 @ 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by RuneSpider

Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
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My understanding is that the Morals and Dogma offered to the public is not the same one that the high up Masons get to own. That book is very hard to get your hands on.

The people who study the Masons and report on them don't use the popular book that's put out to the public.




Yes, actually, it's the same book.
They just hack at the quotes and string them together again. I've already shown you that the major quotes you've pulled are from different parts of the book itself. that were put together to make it fit your site's agenda.
You'll notice that the same quotes keep getting used over and over again.
Having read the book, there are several better quotes that they could use, seeing as how they are big on taking them out of context, or putting together unrelated text to make their points.



[edit on 19-2-2009 by RuneSpider]


This is turning into a debate on the Freemasons rather than the plans and devices of the Satanists, Zionists trying to bring the country down.

However, you say you are not a Mason. Therefore, I will rely on people who have spent their lives studying the Freemasons, not your opinion. I do not have the time to do the research myself. I'm told it is difficult to get a copy of the real Morals and Dogma. You said yourself somebody just lent you their copy, and now you claim to be an expert on the book. What makes you so sure the copy that is put out for the public to read is the same as that the high up Masons have in their possession?

If these people promise to slit their throats and everybody else who would reveal their secrets, I doubt they are handing out their Morals and Dogma so easily to uninitiates.

Or are you lieing, as the Freemasons are wont to do -- and you actually ARE an actual Freemason, and just making stuff up as you go along here to try to put a good face on something that is so evil and creepy and destructive that if it didn't have spokesmen putting out disinformation and lies it might get driven out of town on a rail, tarred and feathered, and even exposed totally and publicly and perhaps made illegal as the wicked and destructive thing it is?

At one time, our founding fathers tried to do just that, after the Freemasons murdered and tortured one of their own who had blown the whistle on them.

You are just here defending the infefensible. You say read about Albert Pike's life, study up on it. Why? The more you learn the more you find out what a thoroughly evil man he was, depraved, murderous, wicked man.

The Bible says, Woe unto those who call good evil and evil good.



posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 03:12 AM
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This is turning into a debate on the Freemasons rather than the plans and devices of the Satanists, Zionists trying to bring the country down.

You were the one who brought them up, you've also shown sources that are encouraging lies on the behalf of people I've worked with and found reasons to give them respect.


I'm told it is difficult to get a copy of the real Morals and Dogma.

Then someone lied to you. It's stupidly easy to get a copy of one, which is why purposeful misquotes such as I showed you earlier are so annoying It shows that someone is deliberately trying to smear someone else' reputation, and that they have followers who aren't even attempting to learn what they are saying.


You said yourself somebody just lent you their copy, and now you claim to be an expert on the book.

I made no such claim. I've pointed out, and will continue to do so, where someone purposely misquoted from the book to make it seem evil.


What makes you so sure the copy that is put out for the public to read is the same as that the high up Masons have in their possession?

What makes you so sure it isn't?
I personally own one copy of the book, but have looked at books that were handed out to the initiates who joined the Scottish Rite. Aside from the general design of the cover, and a add on to the front cover asking that the book be returned if the Mason either demits from Masonry, or on the event of his death, there is no difference. It's the same book.
Actually, I take that back. The older editions didn't have a table of contents, that came separately.




If these people promise to slit their throats and everybody else who would reveal their secrets, I doubt they are handing out their Morals and Dogma so easily to uninitiates.


Y'ever cross your heart and hope to die? Swear on your mother's grave? Make a promise at all emphatically?
It's meant in the same way. It's symbolic, and was always intended so.
Now, that part of the ritual was removed in the 80's. Because people believed it was meant seriously. Several of the younger Masons on this site will not have made that oath.


Or are you lieing, as the Freemasons are wont to do -- and you actually ARE an actual Freemason, and just making stuff up as you go along here to try to put a good face on something that is so evil and creepy and destructive that if it didn't have spokesmen putting out disinformation and lies it might get driven out of town on a rail, tarred and feathered, and even exposed totally and publicly and perhaps made illegal as the wicked and destructive thing it is?


Friend, in all of the time I've been studying Masonry, I've seen more lies coming from the opposing side than those defending it.
Now, from this I take it you've met with Masons yourself, to get your own opinion?
I've shown you where people are lieing about Masons. Taxil's Hoax, a faked letter that has no record of existence, deliberately taking different parts from a decent book to change the message of the text, and encourage people who do not take the time to do any research to hate a group they know nothing about.
Fact of the matter is, I used to be an ant-Mason. But, I managed to take a hour or so a day and read what each side was stating. I tried to be polite in all of my meetings and, over all, found that the only side presenting any real proof of their statements were the Masons.
I continued to research, and saw that many people who call for folks to stand up and see the truth, such as the site you linked earlier, are doing a very good job of serving their lies to people.



At one time, our founding fathers tried to do just that, after the Freemasons murdered and tortured one of their own who had blown the whistle on them.

Who? George Washington and Benjamin Franklin were both Freemasons.
If you are referring to William Morgan, who was born at about that time, then the case itself is suspect.
I would ask you read it yourself, but you've already admitted you won't.
You've built your stance on another's opinions and refuse to change it.
Yes, actually. It does seem like Masons did something to him, either banished him from the state, or killed him. The likely story is that he was banished, he had a existing record long before his involvement with Masons, and over all continuously caused problems in evry town he was in.



You are just here defending the infefensible. You say read about Albert Pike's life, study up on it. Why? The more you learn the more you find out what a thoroughly evil man he was, depraved, murderous, wicked man.


You say that, but you've read nothing of the man. The link you gave me was patently false, you've looked at nothing for yourself, and have only the opinions of other people who claim to know better to back you statements.



The Bible says, Woe unto those who call good evil and evil good.



Indeed it does.
What does it say about those who let other's decided what is good and wrong for them?



posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 04:50 AM
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You are no expert on Freemasons or Albert Pike either one, so why pretend you are.

You just got a book, probably the popular edition, and you're just shooting from the hip.

The world is falling apart, martial law is happening right now, civil war is on the near horizon, the Satanists/Freemasons are creating their utopia before our eyes.

So go kiss Albert Pike's big toe for me on his statue in front of the National Archives, or wherever they've got his stupid statue set up in Washington, DC. I hate Albert Pike, I hate Freemasonry.

You know NOTHING about this subject you want to discuss. You just love the brotherhood, probably because it helped you get ahead in life, moneywise, helped you out of some legal crunches, whatever.

I see people all over this forum with avatars of demons and devils and such all acting like they never heard that Satanism was evil or that Satanists ever lied or did anything evil or hurtful to anybody. On every forum they are there defending evil, apologizing for it, making out that the evil people are not evil and do no evil. You are just like those people.

Spare me.



posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 06:58 AM
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You are no expert on Freemasons or Albert Pike either one, so why pretend you are.

I could make the same statement to you.
You've stated that you've done nothing to back up your claims. You are relying on others beliefs and telling me to wake up. I've already shown that some of them are lying to you.



You just got a book, probably the popular edition, and you're just shooting from the hip.


You haven't looked into anything this person is telling you, but believe it religiously.



The world is falling apart, martial law is happening right now, civil war is on the near horizon, the Satanists/Freemasons are creating their utopia before our eyes.


No. People let their government get away from them by being lazy and are putting the blame on someone else.


So go kiss Albert Pike's big toe for me on his statue in front of the National Archives, or wherever they've got his stupid statue set up in Washington, DC.

It's located in downtown Washington. It doesn't take that much time to use Google. Also, I wouldn't kiss a statue of anyone, let alone their big toe.



I hate Albert Pike, I hate Freemasonry.

Obviously, but is that your own opinion, or one someone else gave you?



You know NOTHING about this subject you want to discuss. You just love the brotherhood, probably because it helped you get ahead in life, moneywise, helped you out of some legal crunches, whatever.

I know more than you, obviously.
As for me, I work tech support. Everything I have is due to my own effort, or lack there of. I've had no handouts, and I will take none.



On every forum they are there defending evil, apologizing for it, making out that the evil people are not evil and do no evil. You are just like those people.


I would be apologizing for you as well then, but I won't. Personally, i don't really care what you think of me, of this site, or of the people who make it up, as long as you showed some bit of self thought.
I could live with that, and take your views into consideration.
But you don't. you are only showing someone else' quotes that they took from a book and their hate speech.
What you are showing is ignorance, will full ignorance 'cause you've admitted you don't want to learn.

There are evil people, of that I have no doubt. I've met some.
They don't always wear suits, though. They don't need nice hair, or fit any of the definitions people would normally attribute evil.
Most of the ones I've met personally spend their days undermining what good there is in this world.
They lie and smear people's reputations without even meeting them because... well. To be honest, I don't know.
Reading what I have, it's obvious that at some point, someone read the book, 'cause the quotes are found in the book, though they are spread far apart.
All I do know, is that someone is purposefully dieing and misleading people to their own agenda, and that so very many people are willfully dancing to their tune.



Spare me.


I'll never spare someone who has a chance to be better than they are.



posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 08:11 AM
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You know nothing about the Masons other than somebody lent you Morals and Dogma, popular version.

I listen to people who have spent years studying the Masons, years.

People like: Texe Marrs, Alan Watt, Fritz Springmeier, Bill Schnoebelen, Jordan Maxwell, and many, many others I can't think of their names offhand. I posted you some links and you didn't follow up on them, but you are wanting me to go get a Morals and Dogma and read it so I can find out that quotes in an article I posted are split.

If you can't recognize something evil when you see it, something that's as evil as Freemasonry, you have a big problem. Just because your Masonic friends don't have fangs with blood dripping from them you think they are good guys.

You devil worshippers always lie about how sweet and lovely you are, how you don't do any harm, how you love everybody, and how people are so unfair to you, how Albert Pike was a nice old Santa Claus who meant no harm, blah, blah, blah.

The Freemasons and their Illuminiati cohorts are ready to blow up the planet, to bring on starvation, plagues, war, and death to most of the people on the planet, and then finally get your stinking hellish NWO "utopia." I'm not interested in splitting hairs with you.



posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 09:20 AM
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Kid, I've spent about two years studying Masonry, I already know Bill Schoeblen, Leo Zagami, Jim Shaw, and several others are liers.

I have made no statements about m beliefs.
Fact is, I'm a Christian, don't care what you believe about me, but it's the truth.
And again, I am not a Mason.
I am basing my statements on my studies, which have shown that Bill Schoeblen was never a member of a Lodge, which he claims to be. I know several others on your list there are also not what they claim to be.



The Freemasons and their Illuminiati cohorts are ready to blow up the planet, to bring on starvation, plagues, war, and death to most of the people on the planet, and then finally get your stinking hellish NWO "utopia." I'm not interested in splitting hairs with you.


And twenty years, give or take, if someone doesn't pass a law that forbids all secrets societies (while taking away the most basic rights of privacy that so many people here supposedly hold dear) I'll still be here. And I'll still be doing what I can to keep the truth going.
I've been waiting twenty years, and others have been waiting longer, to see these stories that wind up here so very much come true. I see people who are throwing themselves at people and trust them with out looking beyond what they want to hear.
I don't care who you listen to, you are not forming your own mind about, you are leaching off of other people.

I've checked your links. I've shown you where they lied to you.



posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 09:34 AM
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Okay, Mr. Christian Freemason Lover -- You say it's not going to happen, just like the Bible says, "Where is the sign of his coming?"

If you can't see the sign of hte times, can't see the big Bankster heist, the country on the brink of civil war, the worldwide depression on the near horizon, the military troops being sent out to peaceful American communities at this moment to begin confiscating the firearms --

you just need to wake up.

Evil is not fun, and we are not immune from its effects here in America. What goes around, comes around. See if your Masonic friends will save you.



posted on Feb, 21 2009 @ 09:58 AM
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In the past we've had wars, we've had Holocausts, we've had nearly evey evil thing you can imagine.
The last big bad storm cycle we had, in the early 1900's, the storms that hit Florida and our coast (up to New York) were worse than have hit in the past. The early part of the last century was marked by War, Famines, and strogn and, to the people at the time, unusual weather.


If you can't see the sign of hte times, can't see the big Bankster heist, the country on the brink of civil war, the worldwide depression on the near horizon, the military troops being sent out to peaceful American communities at this moment to begin confiscating the firearms --

Look back over the last two or three hundred years, this isn't new.




you just need to wake up.


If sleeping is not trusting the people who willingly lie to promote their own agenda, and thereby polarizing groups and encouraging strife between people who could, possibly, work together to make the world a better place... then I'd rather stay asleep.



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