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Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by Rockpuck
This isn't a conservative or liberal issue anymore. This is an American issue.
Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by Rockpuck
Well spending needs to be cut. This isn't a conservative or liberal issue anymore. This is an American issue. Would you rather they pilfer pensions? You wanna see how big of a backlash they'll get if they start stealing from pensioners?
Originally posted by tjeffersonsghost
Its quite simple. We do to them what the IRS does to us. If you are late paying us back then we charge interest and penalties for every day they are late paying us our money. They do it to us why cant we do it to them?
Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by j2000
Personal property tax...It's like you're renting your own property. I'd fight back with that too.
[edit on 16-2-2009 by projectvxn]
KS- Campaign for Liberty Members:
I am forwarding on this message from the Johnson County Coordinator and Gardner City Commission candidate Steve Shute. Please contact your state Senator and Representatives to show support for this declaration of sovereignty. This is a good example of how we can get involved in state actions.
Thanks Steve for passing it on.
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Great News, everyone!!
Last week, Sen. Mary Pilcher Cook (R-Shawnee) courageously filed a Senate Concurrent Resolution, SCR-1609, that asserts the sovereignty of the state of Kansas under the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. I received the following correspondence from Mary earlier:
Steve,
It was great to see you yesterday! The bill number is 1609. I will get a hearing date asap. The Judiciary chairman, Sen. Tim Owens, said it would most likely be after March 5. He is under the impression that it has been "blessed" by Senate leadership too.
Mary
You can read the full text of the resolution here. We will also be discussing this resolution at Tuesday's Hope for America Coalition meeting at 7:00pm at the Johnson County Library-Antioch Branch, 8700 W. Shawee Mission Parkway in Mission. We hope you can attend.
As I know that all of you are people who believe that states' rights and the Constitution still matter, I wanted you to know that Mary needs help on this. Please call or E-mail your state senators and house members and tell them to support Mary Pilcher Cook's resolution. With the "stimulus" being signed into law next week and the inevitable strings that will come attached to any money that will be flowing to the states as a result of this disaster of federal overreach, we MUST say, "enough is enough," and tell the feds to stop treating sovereign states like indentured servants.
Thank you in advance for your help in this important effort!
In Freedom,
-- Steve
Originally posted by mrfire9
Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by j2000
Personal property tax...It's like you're renting your own property. I'd fight back with that too.
Hell yeah! I am from Wichita and i run a business and i have already paided half of our property tax which was almost 4k. So now when the next bill come i should just not pay them at all?
States are facing a great fiscal crisis. At least 46 states faced or are facing shortfalls in their budgets for this and/or next year, and severe fiscal problems are highly likely to continue into the following year as well. Combined budget gaps for the remainder of this fiscal year and state fiscal years 2010 and 2011 are estimated to total more than $350 billion.
States are currently at the mid-point of fiscal year 2009 — which started July 1 in most states — and are in the process of preparing their budgets for the next year. Over half the states had already cut spending, used reserves, or raised revenues in order to adopt a balanced budget for the current fiscal year — which started July 1 in most states. Now, their budgets have fallen out of balance again. New gaps of $51 billion (over 10% of state budgets) have opened up in the budgets of at least 42 states plus the District of Columbia. These budget gaps are in addition to the $48 billion shortfalls that these and other states faced as they adopted their budgets for the current fiscal year, bringing total gaps for the year to 15 percent of budgets.
The states fiscal problems are continuing into the next two years. At least 45 states have looked ahead and anticipate deficits for fiscal year 2010 and beyond. These gaps total almost $94 billion — 16 percent of budgets — for the 36 states that have estimated the size of these gaps and are likely to grow as gaps are re-estimated in the next few months.
If revenue declines persist as expected in many states, additional budget cuts are likely. Budget cuts often are more severe in the second year of a state fiscal crisis, after reserves have been largely depleted and thus are no longer an option for closing deficits. The experience of the last recession is instructive as to what kinds of actions states may take. Between 2002 and 2004 states reduced services significantly. For example, in the last recession, some 34 states cut eligibility for public health programs, causing well over 1 million people to lose health coverage, and at least 23 states cut eligibility for child care subsidies or otherwise limited access to child care. In addition, 34 states cut real per-pupil aid to school districts for K-12 education between 2002 and 2004, resulting in higher fees for textbooks and courses, shorter school days, fewer personnel, and reduced transportation.