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Proof of Aliens & UFO'S!!!

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posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 01:39 AM
In the beginning, there is a Genius Of Design aka GOD who creates everything so that everything including human or alien or UFO or whatever can experience its design.

1 - Everything is possible.
2 - Anything is possible.

Therefore no one is right or wrong because everything and anything are possible. It is simply at what level everything experiences its design or redesign.

If I type a letter "A", do we see "A" or in fact electrical pulses forming pixels on the computer screen to form a letter "A"? This depends on each design's experience.

In the end, everything redesigns itself to further experience its redesign, and this repeats and repeats and repeats.

[edit on 16-2-2009 by ctjctjctj]

posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 01:56 AM
I've seen posts, where the OP posted something fantastic. I've seen it get debunked in an intelligent manner. Then, I've watched the OP say, "Yeah, my bad, it was just a joke". Then, I've watched, as the thread stretches for 10 more pages of, ' how the "gov't" told him to tell us it was a joke'...and spin completely out of control. Per say, debunking debunkers, even.

You say you are trying to point everyone in the right direction. Research being the key to finding the answers they/we seek.

But you also said we will not find what we are looking for.

I've said, he said, they've said.

Heck, I'm still waiting for that 2000 mile long spaceship from Blossom Goodchild.

In reading this, I can't hold your information in a much higher regard than hers. And she even had a shiny website. Sure, she was selling books, but she had the coconuts to give an exact date. Not a quarter of a year.

Anyways, I don't mean to attack you, personally. There are so many threads that easily cater to the hopes of some cool stuff, but fizzle out to "just playin with the psychos". haha. So my real question is:

What made you choose to post anything here, if you already had a vibe on how it would play out as far as personal "attacks" go, etc?

This is still the internet. It started out being the place where men have cybersex with other men, thinking they were women. This is just an evolved situation, really. Meaning anyone can be anyone and anonymity is a beautiful thing.

I don't really have any cards to offer. Just, why you chose a conspiracy website to say anything on.

It's like that "footage" of a ghost...first question: "Why were you filming the closet door anyways?".

posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 01:57 AM

Originally posted by mrjenka
how about this.. if anyone here can give me ONE good reason on why I should release any type of information that please list it. if it is good enough I will send the 3 owners of above topsecret a cd with over 5k documents, files, pictures and videos.. they can do with it what they wish..

but, until i get one good reason why i should i will just sit back and type what i know rather than show you lazy people anything

Please spare us the infantile dribble. This one quote out of an entire thread proves to me more than anything else that you have nothing even resembling a security clearance.

posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 02:10 AM
reply to post by mrjenka

Thank you for taking the time to post mrjenka and i've also come to believe through my own work and talking to people.

Yes i do believe we have been visited by other beings, but sitting on the fence and looking at all possible angles with an open mind i'd also say that alot of what poeple are seeing are man-made.

A past director for lockhead and martin stated when he steeped down people wouldnt believe how far advanced our technologies are but are kept secret behind black projects and will never get released.

Do your homework and read credited articles sources.

Its not about who's right or who's wrong to discredit that person, its about doing your own research and make up your own mind.

[edit on 16-2-2009 by Baldric]

posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 02:49 AM

Originally posted by lewtra
reply to post by mrjenka

What I am saying is,how do you explain the reported crafts that have no sound?

O.k I will put it simple...You are saying that all the UFO are military.So how do you explain the mountains of evidence that proves otherwise.It is like a circle round and round.SHOW some solid proof that will put our mind to rest that Ufo are MAN MADE.


It's very simple to explain craft that seem to make no sound:

1) they make no sound in the direction of the observer. This doesn't mean that there is no acoustic emission in all directions. For instance, were you listening above the craft? No, not likely.

2) ever hear a loud balloon?

3) ibid, submarines?

posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 02:55 AM

Originally posted by scubagravy
your just a number cruncher, why would you or anybody that works with you upstairs in the 'office pygmy' section know anything. Im thinking your pulling our leg, even if you do work where you say the most youd know Top Secret is how much debt each company is in.

Please change your title, you've cheated me already with it .

Go Aussie!

Thank god we are down to earth.

posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 02:57 AM

Originally posted by King neptune117
hey mr jenka, ive got a few questions for you

1) what general field do you work in at lockheed martin?
2) im a sophmore in highschool right now and I have always wanted to be involved in companys like lockheed martin and boeing. I dont want to do it for all this alien and ufo stuff, I want to do it because of my passion for flight and the development of it. What do you suggest I major in while in college in order to obtain a job at one of these major corporations.

I'm not the original poster but I can help with #2:

Either Physics, Mechanical, Aerospace or Electrical engineering (EE is working on sensors/electronics)---possibly new things like "materials science" if it is heavily structural/aeronautical focused and not chemical/medical focused. Don't major in Mathematics or Computer Science, but do make sure you have basic engineering math (vector calculus and differential equations) and how to write scientific programs down cold.

Learn how to program and understand signals, as well as fluid dynamics. Try to work for professors/intern however you can. This is very important. To move up to a serious technical position you'll need a MS from a good school too.

Or, if you want to make it easier, you can be an accountant and work in the contracts and grants compliance office. Of course that's like getting a lobotomy over 25 years, one day at a time. At the DMV.
[edit on 16-2-2009 by mbkennel]

[edit on 16-2-2009 by mbkennel]

posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 02:58 AM
The thing I struggle with is that if Boeing, LM et al have these craft, then there must be quite a large amount of people that work or have worked with them at some point:


not to mention all the people like yourself who work in ancillary and services departments. How are all these people kept quiet? Surely someone would tell his wife, who would tell her sister and somehow this would have all got out???

The other problem I have is why would you choose an Internet message board to reveal information that surely must contravene your contractual obligation to your employer? If you do work for LM, how would they take to you coming onto a site like this and "divulging" (even in a "watered down" manner) what you know?

posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 03:01 AM
This post is lame. Who said there was no proof? If you do any type of serious research about this topic you will see that many countries along with the US had saucer technology in the 50's. Yes some are man made and some aren't.

And then you say.... join scientific blogs and if you appear smart enough people will tell you what they're working on? Are you kidding me? Do you even know what an employee contract is?

And then disclosure....US government might not come out anytime soon but Britain is already in the disclosure process>>>>They plan to release all of their ufo documents, ect by 2012.

Lastly, your thinking is ass backwards. How many informational sources were there in the 40's? How many informational sources do we have access to in the 21st century? Your thought process, reasoning and analyzing is weak.

My last statement is...That is why you're a bean counter; because you're close minded and in your world everything can be added and subtracted to make sense. Well buddy the real world doesn't make sense and it does add up [snip]


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Courtesy is mandatory

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posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 03:02 AM

Originally posted by mrjenka
So, instead of looking for proof of whatever you guys may think is out there YOU WONT FIND IT..... Especially in todays day in age. Maybe back in the 40; and early-mid 50's you may have found a paper-trail, today there are internet's that are themselves classified and are only accessible by maybe two-three people, everything important is very well protected and in no way possible to access..

then in later post you say this

Originally posted by mrjenka
The Earth and human beings are a VERY VERY rare occurrence in the universe. there are millions of different little things that have to go right for an earth to even be born and billions of other little things that needs to happen in order for it to harbor life..

Therefore, in the grand scale of things you must understand that the earth and humans are like a 1.9 trillionc hance.. seriously, do you research guys.. please...

You totally contradict yourself

Actually, you EXPOSE yourself as a bottom-rung, half-hearted debunker and skeptic…...puh-leaseee

and you waste our time......but let me continue...

Firstly, you say back in the 40's we may have found a paper-trail, but today we have no chance...somehow the passing of time now makes it impossible to find this information…..put differently, information about UFOS and Aliens did exist, but we needed to be alive around the time Errol Flynn was sowing his wild oats and the great depression had just started....

But a few moments later, you tell us the existence of extra-terrestrial life is “1.9 trillion”…...So which one is it Mr Auditor?...they do exist or they don’t exist?

Secondly, how do you know these top-secret "internets" exist?'re just an audit boy remember?

You say they exist to securely store and share information that is above top-secret...information that needs to be hidden and secured at all costs....information that is so earth-shattering that it is accessible by "maybe two-three people"?

So somehow a two-bit auditor just happens to know the membership numbers of the world’s most top secret and forbidden internet......

now this is too funny…..someone throw me a movie script template – this stuff is GOLD I tell you…

I love it

Let's cut to the chase shall we ----------> your story is like a 4 week old slice of Swiss camembert cheese ---> somewhat enticing, a tad intriguing, but ultimately repulsive.

Please, go back to sharpening your H2b pencils and correcting those Lockheed "audits" you do... @ "lockheed"...more like stocking shelves at Wal-Mart

And on a final note :

Originally posted by mrjenka


Originally posted by mrjenka
Hey.. thank you for your post. I am NOT saying that there is no proof. You guys may have misinterpreted what I was saying.

GOLD, gold I tell you

posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 03:09 AM
I am kind of ashamed of the criticism you have received here. I thought if anywhere, we would get it here! Well I do. Thanks for the thread, however misslabeled it seems to be to some. It musta worked, we're all here! I appreciate the fact you cannot disclose more. We only believe what our minds are ready to accept anyway and does no good to force the issue. I actually appreciate you making us do the research and ask the questions, maybe it will ring closer to home! It takes a stronger belief to weather the mental denial storms, than merely looking at reports, watching video, wishing to see one, etc. (bad forces are cunningly deceptive)
That being said I would like to direct you to proof of the bibles credibility with only one fact: you can actually still go to these places mentioned thousands of years ago and physically touch them! Proof is only something we decide we need, to verify what we really know is already there anyway.
Does that make sense?

If we are so rare, why do we not act like it and fight and try to destroy ourselves and our unique planet then? What about the drake equation?

I agree we are foolish when it comes to playing God with new technology.
The part that scares me is, we always end up using it on each other sooner or later! Although that is no excuse to hold back our flying water powered cars any longer though!

If one really digs into ancient civilizations and technology, the answers are there and they are intrinsically linked to 2012 and each other. IMO
Way too much to speculate over here and maybe off topic,
but I'll just say we must have had help getting here(technology and all)by someone or something. We can barely duplicate some of these ancient engineering feats today! And then we still need computer help!
Its not that its all false, its that some of it may actually be true!
We are way too strange and goofy to be a rare anomaly! Right?

We will never be let into the galactic federation untill we learn how to cohabitate in peace! Duh!

I'm down with that! Anyone else "on board"?

[edit on 16-2-2009 by dodadoom]

posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 03:21 AM
Perhaps mrjenka is talking about tech such as THIS being released soon.

Boeing, the world's largest aircraft manufacturer says it is working on anti-gravity propulsion, which could revolutionize conventional aviation.

Now how cool would that be?

[edit on 16-2-2009 by miguelbmx]

posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 03:31 AM

posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 03:31 AM
reply to post by miguelbmx

Awesome post! Thank you for that!
Leave it to the gubment to coin a new one: deniable!

H***, we can just go hog wild now!
After all we can always call it deniable

Gotta love it!

Maybe I'll "implement it in my current scenario"!

posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 03:39 AM
reply to post by mrjenka

So your justification for a select few to withhold information from a majority of the whole population for decades at a time, is the fear people will use the technology for mass destruction and death? Technology so important that it could be concidered a milestone in human achivement.

on another note, the human race is still a race in it's infancy of existance in terms of even just our own galaxy. Through out the history of man, there are points where we made extreme leaps of evolutional and technological advancements that defy the amount of time that it should have taken us to naturaly progress, eg.egyptian astronomers seemed to have knowledge, such as the presence of Pluto, that even with our more advanced technology and intelect have just recently discovered.

Now I'm not by any means selling short the capabilities and capabilities of the human mind. I just feel that there have been times, for whatever reason, in our history where we have been given knoledge that dramatically helped speed up our evolution. It also seems that this has happened more often these past few hundred years. So I'm not waiting for some big disclosure from some self-appointed select few (that obliviously isn't in the agenda. That doesn't mean we should give up demanding truth. "They" need to know we aren't going back to sleep.

Many strange things seen in the sky, if man made, are gifts of knowledge from who were flying around in them before we could even dream of such things.

posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 03:40 AM
LMAO! I love the part when the op says to read science articles and mags for info on new technology. DUH isnt that why they publish those things!

posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 04:05 AM

Originally posted by mrjenka
Wow.... What are you talking about.. Refrence back to a response I made to someone earlier...

"They" will not make themselves aware to you because "they" may-be already sitting right next to you on the bus... ever think of that?

and why would "they" make themselves aware to you or anyone else?? you think "they" are going to come to the earth and help us or transport us somewhere else?!?

I smell stand-up comedy or just sever sarcasm...

Gosh this is indeed turning into one of these pointless threads we've become used to here.

"PROOF OF ALIENS & UFOS!!" - followed up by "I will not reveal anything. You must find your own answers".

What I don't get is why someone with no interest in providing anything stated in the Subject line, would bother to even start a thread. Why start the thing, then go on to say things like "My family and job are far more important than providing evidence for you."

Throw in a good mocking
's and we're all set for a re-run of the never ending holier-than-thou story.

And it doesn't end there, now we're having the "they are with us now" stuff.

I'm sure they would come here just to get the bus around all day.

posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 04:09 AM

Originally posted by mrjenka
because i answered this already. my life, family, career, well-being and future is very much more important to me than disclosing what i know..

i can push you in the right direction but you would have to do the rest of the research on your own...

But so far all you've done is tell everyone to read an internet.......

If the importance of what you know is less important than the safety of your life, family and career, then why did you potentially put all of that in jeopardy by even starting this thread?

posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 04:23 AM
Pretty easy to check this out.

Just contact Lockheed and ask personnel if they have anyone working there with security clearance, who has grade 3-4 level reading and writing skills.

Some of the BS posted around here has credible sounding pseudo-data written with enough articulation that it merits at least consideration.

Not this.


posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 04:24 AM
Please dont go there!


We will never be let into the galactic federation untill we learn how to cohabitate in peace! Duh!
I'm down with that! Anyone else "on board"?

I do not want to read anymore GFL crap.

[edit on 16-2-2009 by Bob Down Under]

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