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posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 05:54 PM
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Quite the attitude shift. So if you have not heard of it, it must not be world changing?

Maybe you should actually take a look at what he is talking about, after all he did give you a starting point within the first few lines of his post.

He is simply asking you to do what you are asking everyone else to do.




posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 05:54 PM
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I do not have any first hand knowledge of Roswell although through little birdies and whispers I have been able to understand that certain technological leaps and jumps that man-kind has been able to make int he past 100-120 years(100 years ago man was using horse and buddy as primary transportation) had in some part to do with technology we were "given" and technology we "obtained"

I won't speculate on who "gave" this to us or how we "obtained" it but it is safe to say that it was not originating from Earth.

I don't know if you guys are familiar with a Colonel Phillip Corso who said he reversed engineered alien technologies..

This is a loud of malarkey. If you browse my previous post you will see that I have outlined this extensively.

No ONE man or group of men has the power such as he claimed to have. Especially at a Colonel level, not what he was claiming.

Fiber optics and lasers were being worked on for decades. Fiber optics and laser were man made and produced, however fiber optics and laser garnered a significant "boost" from...................

I really wish this will never happen but if Iran ever did arm itself with nuclear capabilities and made a demonstration of a cruise/skud nuclear tip missile than your dreams will all come true as you will see things only a select few have seen or know off...

Partial Beam Energy is something that may be made public, "they" not sure yet. But, the technology will be explained and utilized as something totally different from its true usage. I found this out from a co-worker I am in a carpool with who is the "supervisor" of the whole financial and scientific department I work in.

I would like for your guys opinion on the statements Barrack Obama has made about weaponry and space and how "we" need to weaponize space..

Any ideas on why? And what weaponry do we have available to us that could be used in space..



I would like



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 05:55 PM
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Oh also, about this eradicator. Why would anyone want to develop such a weapon. Why would we WANT to eradicate 5 billion people?



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 05:56 PM
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I am not the one with questions. I do not wish to spend 2 hours reading about something I would of heard about.

Guys, I work in a developmental area with a bunch of scientists. Scientists are geeks. They know of all the new technologies, gadets, widgets that are coming out and how they work.

I never heard of this hence me saying it must of not been important.

Please explain to me how something is world changing yet no one uses it.

How did it change the world if no one is using it?'




posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by mrjenka
reply to post by King neptune117
 


I do not have any first hand knowledge of Roswell although through little birdies and whispers I have been able to understand that certain technological leaps and jumps that man-kind has been able to make int he past 100-120 years(100 years ago man was using horse and buddy as primary transportation) had in some part to do with technology we were "given" and technology we "obtained"

I won't speculate on who "gave" this to us or how we "obtained" it but it is safe to say that it was not originating from Earth.

I don't know if you guys are familiar with a Colonel Phillip Corso who said he reversed engineered alien technologies..

This is a loud of malarkey. If you browse my previous post you will see that I have outlined this extensively.

No ONE man or group of men has the power such as he claimed to have. Especially at a Colonel level, not what he was claiming.

Fiber optics and lasers were being worked on for decades. Fiber optics and laser were man made and produced, however fiber optics and laser garnered a significant "boost" from...................

I really wish this will never happen but if Iran ever did arm itself with nuclear capabilities and made a demonstration of a cruise/skud nuclear tip missile than your dreams will all come true as you will see things only a select few have seen or know off...

Partial Beam Energy is something that may be made public, "they" not sure yet. But, the technology will be explained and utilized as something totally different from its true usage. I found this out from a co-worker I am in a carpool with who is the "supervisor" of the whole financial and scientific department I work in.

I would like for your guys opinion on the statements Barrack Obama has made about weaponry and space and how "we" need to weaponize space..

Any ideas on why? And what weaponry do we have available to us that could be used in space..



I would like


I have been hearing a lot on particle beams lately. I dont even know what that is but I hear it is VERY accurate and can be used to prevent an asteroid collision.



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 06:00 PM
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*** ATTENTION ****

This thread is very large.

Please try to use the "reply to" button instead of "quoting" entire posts



Thanks



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 06:03 PM
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Dear Mr. Jenka,

I'm not really clear on a few thinks when digging through some of the history and information that is availible outthere...

You state that you

have been employed by Lockheed martin for the better part of 5+ years
, yet when i browse through some of you earlier posts and threads here on ATS this doesn't really show..

Black Trigangle (?) 3-25-06

In this thread you even state that you

(I am not plane expert)
and will try to take picture of crafts landing at Willow grove Naval base near the place you live, Willow grove, PA.

While you were working at Lockheet at that time, you were going to take pictures of an airforce base??...that's one good career move!!

This was only 1 year and 4 months ago....

UFO Video Caught On Tape!!! 8/28


I was shocked, if this is REAL!!!! It is amazing!!!! Go now...


Is this the pot calling the kettle black??

You must have made on heck of a promotion to have gone from complete unknowning to full clearance in just 1,5 years???

It seems more to me that you getting a bit tired of these old discussions still playing and you want to speed things up a little bit by introducing new ideas. (which is good!!) but please try to be yourself and not pretend to be something you're clearly not.

What would your boss say if he knew that you were semi-revealing company secrets on a conspiracy site?? All it would take is an email to lockheet and your ip-adress and you'd be out of there.
From your posts and your mature and senisible way of conversation i know you are not that naive...

So please don't see this as an attack to your person but please explain this to me.

Regards,

Mindcrime



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 06:04 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 06:11 PM
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While I would not myself name a thread as the OP did, it is his right until a Mod-sheriff calls him on it.

I see everyone's point except the fear based material. I don't get that. The OP's statements are as believable as anyone else's here. There might even be misinfo-ops here too, but try and "prove" it. So silly the search for proof. Can't be done. We have no science that can parse reality to the extent we can prove anything. Fact.

I am fairly convinced that what used to be known as the Military Industrial Complex, now deep black world controllers, are dabbling in these and many other strange technologies. I know some of these craft are real. I've seen some. I don't know who was piloting these craft, but they are real enough to reflect photons in correct index for solid real objects. I saw a mile wide triangle just 40 air miles from China Lake Naval Weapons Testing Range in 92. Also many other "things" too small for a humanoid, plus many good corroborated reports and first hand experiences over the years.

Here is a good video of a triangle of recent news.

Video of recent Triangle. Excellent.

We, as a pre-intelligent species are just finding out there are "out" doors to understanding in our little humanity-house cubical. We are also starting to smell our garbage burning in the basement at the same time. Soon we will be forced to leave the burning house without knowing for sure there is anything beyond our front porch. Some will die in the fire, fearful to open and go out the "out" door. Still others, out of desperation, or emerging awareness of the larger reality, will open the door and walk into a larger world. Much larger.

Until then, it is anyone's guess who is in the black triangles, disks and strange objects over our cities, deserts and facilities., taking us during the night or day, and making us wonder with no certainty at all of anything. No license plate to trace.

But for anyone whom has gone through many of the FOIA documents, government video and documents, researched and read or viewed highly credible and knowledgeable accounts and experiences by people with nothing at all to gain but a bad reputation, who tell us their experiences like police, statesmen, scientists, military brass and badged public servants, dear friends, colleagues, mothers, fathers, siblings and thousands more, you can't but have the solid proof by the preponderance of experiences that SOMETHING is happening. What it is might be beyond our ability to understand, let alone prove.

I don't doubt anyone, without proof they are lying.


(Turnabout is fair play, right?)

I would recommend spending more time listening, than trying to prove anything is true or someone is lying. You are fooling yourself if you think there is any proof anyway. It is beyond such simplistic ideas of reality. A very limited idea of reality by maybe many statements here.

This following quote sort of encapsulates some of my own attitude.




"Warriors don't have the world to cushion them, so they must have
the rule. Yet the rule applies to everyone."

"The first precept of the rule is that everything that surrounds us
is an unfathomable mystery."

"The second precept is that we must try to unravel these mysteries without ever hoping to accomplish this."

"The third is that a warrior, aware of the unfathomable mystery that surrounds him and aware of his duty to try to unravel it, takes his rightful place among mysteries and regards himself as one. Consequently, for a warrior there is no end to the mystery of being, whether being means a pebble, an ant or oneself. That is a warrior's humbleness. One is equal to everything."

Don Juan Matus/ Carlos Castaneda


ZG



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by InSpiteOf

Originally posted by mrjenka
I WILL NOT send a cd to anyone. it was sarcasm!



here's your original quote, for all of us who take things literally, why don't you show us how this comment can be taken as sarcasm:


Originally posted by mrjenka
how about this.. if anyone here can give me ONE good reason on why I should release any type of information that please list it. if it is good enough I will send the 3 owners of above topsecret a cd with over 5k documents, files, pictures and videos.. they can do with it what they wish..


There is no sarcasm in the above comment.


Because MrJenka has not used "smileys", you deduce that there is no sarcasm?

MrJenka's statement could be redolent in sarcasm; there's no way of knowing unless you could listen to the statement and/or watch the statement being made.

I don't know whether MrJenka is simply trying to wriggle out of a silly comment, or if indeed sarcasm was originally intended. But you can't say, based upon reading that statement, that sarcasm was not present.



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 06:14 PM
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can you narrow down your employment time please? You say you have been working there for 5+ years? Does that mean 5.5 years, 6 years, 8-10 years?



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 06:18 PM
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mrjenka I have been reading some of your older threads and came across this quote


the second the "base" would be infiltrated a button is pressed and the WHOLE place gets locked down. NO ONE IN, NO ONE OUT!!! So, even if you made it "in" you wouldn't get far. You would be locked out. And all that juicy stuff you guys are clamoring for even if it was there(I am not saying it is or not) you wouldn't even be able to get to or see because it is so securely hidden "inside" that the only way to get in is with 2 retinal scans, than 2 other people with id cards, than 2 other people with finger prints. And those 6 people know nothing whats inside, all the know is they are a "piece" to opening a "door", "vault" or whatever it maybe. So, you need nothing short than a direct nuclear strike which would blow that whole place to pieces and expose all those dirty little secrets(IF there were any, again, I am not saying there are)....
from one of your replies in area 51 getting old. find a new hobby My question for you is this a known security process to enter secured areas or was this just being sarcastic in a way.
I have enjoyed the thread and a welcome back to you.



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 06:20 PM
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In the very first post , our esteemed hosr says he is a "bean counter ", now , 1 day later hes in with the kool kids spouting world changing tech. btw ,read this fast , it will be deleted. Apparently presenting written truth is frowned on today.



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 06:22 PM
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mr jenka you were talking about a famous case before when a gentlemen took three photographs and that they are real. I researched this and came up with nothing. could you maybe give me some clues???



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 06:31 PM
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What kind of " object " the " erradicator " is ? something that flies ? that goes through the water ? through the ground ? is it launched or turned on ? Thanks



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 06:34 PM
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You discuss finding out information from networks, people or organizations over the internet. Who are these people or organizations that you are talking about?



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 06:51 PM
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And what kind of energy makes the erradicator work ? free energy ?
Isn't it related to one of a government official stating that a secret weapon has been used in Iraq , reducing significantly the number of enemies ... ?
I don't remember exactly who said it but it was on mainstream media few times ago ....

Would you say that if we would learn all that's hidden from us , we'll go nuts ?
blog.wired.com...
That's the article i was talking about , it was on cnn but i couldn't find it , but this one tells the same thing .
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[edit on 16-2-2009 by Asset1911]



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 07:25 PM
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I am not the one with questions. I do not wish to spend 2 hours reading about something I would of heard about.

Guys, I work in a developmental area with a bunch of scientists. Scientists are geeks. They know of all the new technologies, gadets, widgets that are coming out and how they work.

I never heard of this hence me saying it must of not been important.

Please explain to me how something is world changing yet no one uses it.

How did it change the world if no one is using it?'




posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by mrjenka
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Wow, you guys are really not getting this.

THERE IS NO PROOF..





Originally posted by mrjenka
reply to post by RFBurns
 

I am NOT saying that there is no proof. You guys may have misinterpreted what I was saying.




No misinterpretation here. We were just reading what you said. Beginning to have trouble believing, though.




-Strype


Edit: Sp.

[edit on 16-2-2009 by Strype]



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 07:48 PM
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Did they loan you one of these vehicles that cut traveling time in half. Because, from Philadelphia to Johnstown, PA which is the nearest Lockheed facility I am aware of is, 250 miles, a 4+ hour trek? Hats off to you if you make that drive every day.





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