Someone Please Explain To Me - The Theory that Jupiter Ignited - while behind the Sun right now, page 19
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reply posted on 23-2-2009 @ 05:01 AM by Astyanax
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Salutations, my friend, on your openness to rational argument.

You are a point of light in the fog of obscurantist hysteria and rational despair that has gathered so thick about this thread.



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reply posted on 23-2-2009 @ 02:30 PM by Sargoth
Can anybody explain this video? It's not birds or balloons.
www.youtube.com...


And is there any consensus on the Hale Bopp companion?
Here's a good article on it with a great photo at the bottom.
Can anybody explain this video? It's not birds or balloons.
www.youtube.com...


And is there any consensus on the Hale Bopp companion?
Here's a good article on it with a great photo at the bottom.

www.cropcircleresearch.com...

Cool video
www.youtube.com...


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Cool video
www.youtube.com...

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reply posted on 23-2-2009 @ 03:22 PM by ngchunter
Originally posted by Sargoth
And is there any consensus on the Hale Bopp companion?
Here's a good article on it with a great photo at the bottom.
74.125.95.132...:2xgAC8U6VNAJ:www.cropcircleresearch.com/articles/e012-halebopp.html+was+there+a+hale+bopp+companion%3F+as+of+2009& hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=20&gl=us

Link seems broken. Again, if hale bopp had a companion, why does it only appear in selective photos which either show a tight crop with no background stars for comparison, a wider image where all the stars are frozen, or it's an excessively bright streak in line with other streaking stars? If there were a companion, where is it in this excellent up-close image?

No bright stars nearby = nothing to blame for being unusual. The images in your article show signs of either a diffraction spike or a rotated blooming streak. More tellingly, they do not appear consistently in hale bopp images and there is absolutely no evidence that they were moving at the same rate as the comet. It's not hard to do a time lapse and show the movement, where is the time lapse showing the movement of this "object" alongside hale-bopp?

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reply posted on 26-2-2009 @ 08:24 AM by griffinrl
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Sargoth with my 130mm scope I'd have to rate that one a 9. That's about pushing it as far as it will go. Some folks misunderstand about high mag...it's not necessarily what you look for in a good scope. That pic was made with my modified web cam which is effectively a 4mm eyepiece. The higher the mag the lower my field of view. This scope has a focal length of 2,000mm so I think that's gonna be the best I can get with it.

You'll have to petition NGC if you need better images. His gear is a tad bit more higher end than mine.

But if you like feel free to donate to my new scope fund and I'll get ya all the pics you need

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reply posted on 26-2-2009 @ 08:58 AM by ngchunter
reply to post by griffinrl


I need to start charing ATS members for coffee to get early morning images out of me lol. I'll try to get it tomorrow morning, if I can get home at a reasonable hour tonight.

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reply posted on 27-2-2009 @ 03:38 PM by el_bloom
Hi all !

checking back here because I wanted to share with you that the impact on our magnetosphere (and maybe the sun) on jan.22 and until now was and is NOT jupiter-ignition related.
(i think it was mentioned in this thread as an argument for the ignition, maybe from myself)

Gamma-ray fireworks now erupting from rare stellar object


University Park, Pa. -- Astronomers using NASA's Swift satellite and the Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope are seeing frequent blasts from an object that is 30,000 light-years from Earth. The high-energy fireworks are X-ray and gamma-ray flares coming from a rapidly-spinning and super-magnetic remnant of an exploded star -- an unusual type of stellar cinder called a soft-gamma-ray repeater.

"We have observed periods when this remarkable object has erupted with dozens -- even more than a hundred -- flares in as little as 20 minutes," says Loredana Vetere, a postdoctoral scholar at Penn State who is coordinating the Swift observations. "The most intense flares emitted more total energy in less than half a second than our Sun does in 20 years."

High-resolution images and an animation are on the Web at [link to www.science.psu.edu]

The source began a series of modest eruptions on Oct. 3, 2008, but appeared to settle down. Then, on Jan. 22, 2009, it roared back to life with a more intense round of flares.

"As a result of its recent activity, this object has been classified as a soft-gamma-ray repeater. It it is only the sixth soft-gamma-ray repeater discovered so far," Vetere said. The object is continuing to erupt and the scientists are continuing to observe it.

from

gammaray.nsstc.nasa.gov...



www.sciencenews.org...



have a nice watch/read.



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reply posted on 27-2-2009 @ 07:42 PM by Phage
reply to post by el_bloom


I have my doubts that the pulsar flareup in January is the cause of the shock in the magnetosphere or the other effects claimed in the video. There is no evidence that it had anything to do with Sudden Stratospheric Warming. There have other been other bright flares since then which don't seem to have produced similar effects, February 21 for example. And the flare is continuing to be active.

There was a more powerful X-Ray flare in 2004 (from a different source) which did have an effect on the ionosphere but:
Gehrels said in an email interview that the effect was similar to a solar-induced disruption but that the effect was "much smaller than a big solar flare."

www.space.com...

Though powerful, the sources of these events are too distant (10's of thousands of light years) to have major effects. If they were much closer though, we would indeed be in big trouble.

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