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Topic started on 15-2-2009 @ 02:52 AM by HillbillyHippie
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On March 4th, 2009 in Concord New Hampshire all the rules change and the revolution begins! If you believe in states' rights join the protest in
Concord New Hampshire on March 4, 2009:
www.nhliberty.org...
As mentioned on Free Talk Live on their February 14, 2009 broadcast!
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reply posted on 15-2-2009 @ 02:55 AM by David9176
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All it takes is one.
When that happens, they will drop down like dominos.
I'm surprised Alaska or Texas isn't the first to go. They have been trying to do this for a long time.
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reply posted on 15-2-2009 @ 03:13 AM by midnightbrigade
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ya know...go NH....im all about it...but im a little pissed that no one is speaking on the fact that my state, the great Oklahoma started this *snip*
like 8 or 9 months ago...there's threads about it on ATS but people are acting like NH is the second coming of the Constitution. But
whatever..whatever gets the message, the movement, and the consciousness out there...im down for it. Although, where the *snip* is Texas on this? I
mean, come on!
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reply posted on 15-2-2009 @ 03:36 AM by Hx3_1963
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reply posted on 15-2-2009 @ 04:01 AM by thebeast2012
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Don't use the word "revolution" when all it will be is just a march.
Revolution begins when citizens start 'fighting back' against politicians and soldiers.
That is far from now since America does not have brave men and women anymore. And if they do..... Where have they been? They were suppose to bring
down the Bush administration.
Where are the brave patriots? I see none.
Have fun at your rally.
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reply posted on 15-2-2009 @ 04:02 AM by DangerDeath
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Soon, in Texas they will speak Texan.
In Oklahoma - Oklahoman.
In Massachusetts - Massachusettsian.
In California - Californian.
In Arizona - Arizonian.
In Georgia - Georgian.
In Alabama - Alabaman...
It is called: Balkanization.
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reply posted on 15-2-2009 @ 05:55 AM by SpencerJ
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Starred!
Honestly, you sensationalist fools think that somehow exaggerating your case through wishful thinking will spark what you want - a bloodbath
revolution. It's really getting old. And I also agree with the commenter that mentioned Oklahoma as having started this series of events, even though
they didn't so much as start them as re-energize the trend of passing resolutions in the event of some bogey Federal gov't action.
I doubt we will see any beneficial result come from this though.
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reply posted on 15-2-2009 @ 09:17 AM by odd1out
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I have to agree with you. Why do so many think that these states individually "declaring sovereignty" is a good thing? Let alone, that this has been
done before. OKLAHOMA was first??? No, I believe that CA was the first, in 2004. Regardless...we divide this nation and we have accomplished nothing,
and IMO, have played right into the hand of the plan...
A collective "We the People..." type of proposal would be much more effective, and much harder to ignore.
I wish NH all the luck in the world...it's too bad that the smallest state is the first to step up, not the largest. Me thinks if it gets out of hand
there, we'll see what they have in store for the rest of us. They should be pretty easy to ignore...or to step on, in either case.
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reply posted on 15-2-2009 @ 09:38 AM by Anonymous ATS
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It does not begin with violence, it begins with thought and planning. A choice has to be made, for the betterment of a nation. Then things move
forward, I would think. This is a step in the right direction, and let the storm troopers try to squash these birth pains, for then they will truly
stir the pot and get the ball rolling, one might think. This is how I might envision things "evolving".
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reply posted on 15-2-2009 @ 09:40 AM by Anonymous ATS
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I don't believe this for one moment. You miss a key point, that all these states are in complete agreement about the abuses and that they won't take
it anymore. They are allies, not separate. Think of it as having a friend on your side. None of these states want their own separate nation, they just
want the tyrants out of their business. Your point is completely misleading to say the least.
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reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 06:06 AM by spacial
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I saw it as just redneck small states that don't like seeing a black man run the country.
It's like the whole slavery thing over again.
Look who lost the first civil war.
The whole world loves Obama and hates Bush.
Seriously... who do you think will win this one?
If it goes to war, the insurgency will be so squashed they wont know what hit them.
Very silly maneuver in my opinion.
Time is a great story teller, Swedish proverb
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reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 11:24 AM by whatukno
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I wonder why people always assume that a revolution has to be violent to be effective? Revolutions can be peacefull and effective and have a strong
impact on the culture.
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reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 11:49 AM by jtma508
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There isn't anything 'Revolutionary' about this at all. It's more reactionary. Mostly because of the massive financial stresses the federal
government has caused on the States, they are putting the Fed on-notice that they, the States, are the bodies empowered by the Constitution --- not
the Federal Government. And those powers granted by the States and the People to the Federal Government are specifically limited to those powers.
Esentially the Feds are being told to get out of States' business and to remember who the boss really is: The People and The States. Most people
have no idea how much of States' budgets are mandated to be spent on Federal programs. In this current fiscal nightmare the States are fed-up. In a
nutshell, this is not about secession, not about revolution and entirely about limiting Federal powers to those granted by The Constitution --- and NO
more.
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reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 01:07 PM by Make Speed Limit 45
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Originally posted by Hx3_1963
I believe Texas and California did or are planning to.
CA and it's $42B debt can leave the union anytime. Hell - let them join up with mexico. The state is mostly mexican anyway.
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reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 01:10 PM by antmax21
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Originally posted by spacial
I saw it as just redneck small states that don't like seeing a black man run the country.
It's like the whole slavery thing over again.
Look who lost the first civil war.
The whole world loves Obama and hates Bush.
Seriously... who do you think will win this one?
If it goes to war, the insurgency will be so squashed they wont know what hit them.
Very silly maneuver in my opinion.
Time is a great story teller, Swedish proverb
Prime example of ...why Americans are frowned upon now. No guts. All pessimists. We need less people with this kind of thinking. Only time will
tell..
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reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 01:21 PM by DeadFlagBlues
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I'll move.
I'll ride my bike to New Hampshire to be a part of it. If there intentions are as serious as they're making it out to be, I would love to give a
helping hand with whatever I can.
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reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 01:21 PM by MOFreemason
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I watched an interview on Glenn Beck's tv show with a state legislator from New Hampshire. Despite his views on state sovereignty, he also admitted
that NH will be taking the federal stimulus dollars.
Doesn't this seem kinda hypocritical and/or contradictory?
If they are 100% establishing their state sovereignty, should they isolate themselves 100% from federal funding?
(This is a serious question, not even trying to play Devil's advocate here...truly interested in what is the right course of action here?)
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reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 01:22 PM by Cloudsinthesky
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The states have no choice but to accept the money........its in the bill!!
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reply posted on 16-2-2009 @ 01:24 PM by MOFreemason
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But they don't have to accept federal transportation dollars by adhering to speed limit laws, or Dept. of Education dollars to comply with NCLB etc.
etc. etc.
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