yeah im kinda on the same thinking here aswell...

Got my attention right away!! and its close to the 2012/2009 theorys that are wizzing about on ATS at the moment.

very odd!!!

With all this news of space collisions and space debris, my first thought was that the ISS would fall to the earth due to a hypervelocity collision, that would probably cause a pretty significant re-entry event into our atmosphere. This would fulfill the last prophetic stage of the Hopi's.

Originally posted by St Udio
i suggest that the future will return to the mean of our ancestors,
returning to the spiritual emphasis of living & interactions between ourselves and the restoration of shamanism in replacing organized religions


see you on the back side of this 4th turning...thanks,

I agree completely, as do the visions I was given years ago.



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Originally posted by Tayesin

Originally posted by St Udio
i suggest that the future will return to the mean of our ancestors,
returning to the spiritual emphasis of living & interactions between ourselves and the restoration of shamanism in replacing organized religions


see you on the back side of this 4th turning...thanks,

I agree completely, as do the visions I was given years ago.

Are you willing to elaborate on your visions? I am interested, if you don't want to share I understand, thank you for considering. Tina



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Originally posted by TM62
Are you willing to elaborate on your visions? I am interested, if you don't want to share I understand, thank you for considering. Tina

There have been a number of them, one in particular showed a 40 year period to me over a 5 minute timeframe. It covers the times we are in now, to when I am almost 80 years old. I'll just provide a short overview....

Worldly events building to a climax in around 3 years time with major earth disruptions. Mass chaos, among the people. Some flee to higher areas, some stay and loot out everything left behind amongst Martial Law so severe people are shot on site for being out, fullstop. When the people flee it was raining, so dirt roads into mountains were hard to get through, many were blocked with traffic and the mass of people trying to get to safe ground.

Times to hide well, sometimes from raiders who follow after everything is used up in the cities, sometimes from Government/Military, sometime from an outside source.

Scavenging for anything usable, travelling only by horseback or foot, having to hunt food and eating all manner of things crawly and furry to survive while attempting to start growing food in sheltered areas.

By 2013, things settle dramatically in a physical earth sense, but almost everything before then is gone, even many of those who believe they are going to be safe because of their money or connections. People slowly arrive in areas where people have set up camps under trees, and this is the beginning of new villages to be built. Some technology comes through and is put to more effective less harmful usage.

Over time, the villages grow and the food production brought to a suitable level to be sustaining. People share their abilities no matter what they are good at, it all helps and the villagers pull together.

Interaction between villages is usually good, although sometimes one or two megalomaniacs want to be little Kings, which is dealt with in an "energetic" way instead of force and threat.

Because we are also raising in vibration, most people start to see energy as clearly as an Aura viewer does today. We use energy for healing, as a weapon that does not kill but only stuns enough to escape or tie up raiders until they can be helped, etc.

Born Shamans will be like medicine-people, or elders, etc. They will still work in food production as well, as all people do who want to eat.

The rebuilding after the upheavals is based on not making the same mistakes again, building on equality for everyone, support for everyone and the growth in spiritual understanding that no longer holds to anything from the past.

People learn they have power, real power. They learn to use what they have for everyone, they share, they grown and understand more about how we are creating and manifesting, etc.

These are only small parts of what I've been shown. I can provide more detailed answers via email perhaps?

Sounds like things will eventually change for the better of all, that will be a time of sharing I think. People residing in cities are definitely going to have issues of food and energy. I think those living in remote small towns will be better off. Your visions are rational and make a lot of sense, I'm sure there will be those willing to help others, hopefully all people start living by natural laws. I would appreciate you emailing me the rest of your visions that would be cool, it is nice to know that what I am feeling is valid and that my internal gutt instinct is not so far off from others. Thanks you again, I will U2U you my email, k? Thanks again take care of yourself and blessings to you. Tina

Originally posted by pikypiky
...It's because I'm not too sure about the Sixth sign and that which 'make pictures in the sun'. ...

The "rivers of stone" are highways and roads. The "pictures in the sun" are the mirages you sometimes see on hot roads.

Just a thought:

Why does everyone seem to assume those stages, steps, whatever, are sequential?

And don't forget the space shuttle that burned up coming in.

As far as Lulin goes, yeah it's pretty far off, but 1999 AQ10 isn't. On February 18th it will pass within.0112 AU, waaay closer.

Originally posted by NativeAmerican

"This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron."

Pipes

Originally posted by NativeAmerican

"This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web."

Internet

Originally posted by NativeAmerican

"This is the Sixth sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun."

Cities, windows on buildings "make pictures in the sun".

Originally posted by NativeAmerican
"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it."

Oil spills etc.

Originally posted by NativeAmerican

"This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom.

"hippies"

Originally posted by NativeAmerican
"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease."

don't know.

Originally posted by NativeAmerican
Which stage do you think we are currently on. Keep in mind that this is most likely in direct reference to North America.

Past the Eight Sign waiting for the ninth to happen...if it hasn't already.

Actually, I'm pretty sure it hasn't. In fact at the beginning of every night I look up in the sky and see what it might be, for almost a year now.

Last night it wasn't even fully dark and I saw it, the moon wasn't even showing yet, the parking lot lights were on and I could still see it.





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Only problem with the theory that the Ninth Sign is seen now, is that Grantbeed described the Hopi's as stating that the "Blue Star" showed itself a few years ago - not a few weeks ago.

I was reading about the Blue Star and it said that when this prophecy was fulfilled there would be plants that come in Bloom during the winter and when that happens somebody must go sown to Santa Fe and warn the people. Because this would signal that the Grand Canyon (organs of the earth) are in danger of mankind. Basically if this area is compromised from development or whatever reason it would create havoc all over the earth.

I have had two roses bloom outside of my house, over the course of the winter, it is now February in Colorado and the roses still have their pedals.

So what might be going on in the Grand Canyon?

First sign is obviously the Spanish Conquistadors (No clue how to spell that)

Second sign is the vehicles

Third; Cattle obviously

Fourth; Im guessing Railroad tracks

Fith; Im guessing maybe highways

Sixth; Maybe phone lines? I really have no clue what that could be

Seventh; Oil spills

Eighth; Various subcultures and stereotypes, which have been around forever

Ninth; Meteor Showers

Well people, Ive come to the conclusion that the world already ended and we're dreaming!

The hippie generation was 8th, skylab falling was 9th.

Not much to this, its 30 years over and done with in my opinion. Interesting, but hardly earth shattering.

The first sign would be a good description of gunfire.

Second and Third are self-explanatory.

The Fourth Sign would likely be in reference to the railroads, which in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century, were much more prevalent and numerous than now. After all, a long train could be represented by a snake of iron.

The Fifth Sign would describe the days of the first telegraph, and now telephone/cable/power lines that run like spider webs across our country.

The Sixth Sign sounds like our road system, and one who looks down a highway will see the heat rise off the road, refractions of light and heat appear to be "pictures" of things far off, but visible up close.

The Seventh Sign appears to be the videos we've seen of massive oil spills, off Alaska and Kuwait for example, where the sea was black, the shore was black, and much of the life that came in contact with it was killed off. Remember in Kuwait, even the sky was black.

The Eighth Sign could be said to be during the Sixties and Seventies when for cultural reasons, many young did grow their hair long, tried communes, free love, and attempted to emulate simpler times.

The Ninth Sign indicate a dwelling in the heavens that crashed in to Earth. The Skylab was a habitat above the earth, and after losing orbital stability, did in fact, come crashing to Earth. In the sky, some stars are yellow, reddish, white, or bluish. The man-made objects are usually painted white, and with the wave lengths of our atmosphere, we would see these as white with a bluish tint.

Everything described took place over a 200-300 year period.

As we look around and consider all indicators, many not know until the last few decades, it doesn't take a genius to realize that we may well be in for a major catastrophic event.

Personally, I don't think this written history of mankind is our first rodeo. This current time is what we have a written record of. Other, earlier times are found in stories, myths and legends. And of course, anomalous artifacts.

Another mass extinction is entirely possible. Whether or not we'd be wiped out, depends on many factors.

Not to worry.

In this life - no one gets out alive.

We still end up dead. One way or another, by ones or millions.

What's with you guys? Do you even know if this 'prophecy' was written during the time in which it claims? How do you know this wasn't written a few years or 30 years ago? You're all jumping right into the meaning of each 'prophecy' as though that is what's most important, as opposed to looking for the origins, or the authenticity, of the material.

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