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Originally posted by Kandinsky
Thought I'd add this for fun...I've checked the ID number against JPL and NASA and drawn blank. It only shows up on UFO sites and here at ATS.
Mysterious Object Seen Near Saturn's Ring - NOOO23784 was the number of this image taken on the 29th October, 2004. It was received by JPL on the 30th October, 2004. The camera was pointing towards Saturn's rings at approximately 491,458 miles away. The image was taken using the CLI and CL.2. filters. The image has not been validated or calibrated. Apparently a validated/calibrated image will be archived with the Nasa Planetary Date System in 2005.
What could it be?
2/ Vast alien craft with three orb craft North and Northwest of it?
It's a good resolution image.
Originally posted by internos
The mystery of the object colliding with Saturn F ring
Claimed to be an UFO (i admit that it fooled me too in the past , as many other people), (Some example of wesites claiming it's a UFO)
is actually what NASA wrote in the caption: it's Prometheus
N00023784.jpg was taken on October 29, 2004 and received on Earth October 30, 2004. The camera was pointing toward SATURN-RINGS at approximately 790,933 kilometers away, and the image was taken using the CL1 and CL2 filters. This image has not been validated or calibrated. A validated/calibrated image will be archived with the NASA Planetary Data System in 2005.
At the origin of the "misunderstanding", there's this original NASA image
which shows an object which shape doesn't match the one of Prometheus: it has been a matter of brightness/contrast, some website's manipulations of the image have made the rest of the job.
A brighter version of the same image, shows much better its contour:
Is almost impossible to make a perfectly matching comparison,
but of course this makes the point IMHO:
I've also found a video on NASA website which shows Prometheus colliding with the rings,
and i've uploaded it on YT:
The moon Prometheus slowly collides with the diffuse inner edge of Saturn's F ring in this movie sequence of Cassini images. The oblong moon pulls a streamer of material from the ring and leaves behind a dark channel.
Once during its 14.7-hour orbit of Saturn, Prometheus (102 kilometers, or 63 miles across) reaches the point in its elliptical path, called apoapse, where it is farthest away from Saturn and closest to the F ring. At this point, Prometheus' gravity is just strong enough to draw a "streamer" of material out of the core region of the F ring.
Initially the dust-sized material drawn away from the ring appears to form a streamer pointing ahead of Prometheus in its orbit. (All orbital motion is towards the right in the movie.) Over time, the streamer falls increasingly farther behind Prometheus because material in the F ring is orbiting slower than the moon. The streamer gets longer and a darker "channel" starts to be seen (to the left of the streamer in the movie).
The creation of such streamers and channels occurs in a cycle that repeats each Prometheus orbit: when Prometheus again reaches apoapse, it draws another streamer of material from the F ring. But since Prometheus orbits faster than the material in the ring, this new streamer is pulled from a different location in the ring about 3.2 degrees (in longitude) ahead of the previous one.
The movie shows just under half of a complete streamer-channel cycle. The dark frames in the movie represent the period during which Prometheus and the F ring pass through Saturn's shadow.
The images in the movie were acquired by the Cassini spacecraft narrow-angle camera on Nov. 23 and 24, 2006. The movie sequence consists of 72 clear spectral filter images taken every 10.5 minutes over a period of about 12.5 hours.
The original images were cropped to show only the region around Prometheus and the nearby portion of the F ring. The movie covers the region between 138,000 and 142,000 kilometers (86,000 and 88,000 miles) radially from Saturn and 1 degree in longitude from Prometheus on each side. Each frame was reprojected such that the vertical axis represents distance from Saturn and the horizontal axis represents longitude around Saturn. Image scale is 10 kilometers (6 miles) per pixel in the vertical direction; the images cover 0.005 degrees of longitude in the horizontal direction. Because of the reprojection, the F ring appears straight, rather than slightly curved, as it otherwise would.
Since the F ring has an elliptical shape, its radial distance from Saturn varies by about 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) around the ring. This accounts for the apparent vertical movement of the ring over the course of the movie. Only a very small part of the ring appears in each of the reprojected frames, so the difference in the ring's radial distance from left to right across any single frame is small enough as to be effectively unnoticeable.
Credit: NASA/JPL/Space Science Institute
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The "anomaly" has been presented in many ways, these are some examples of
"enhancements" and "comparisons":
It was really easy to fall in the trap of the first image, this explains why so many people thought it was an actual UFO, since its apparent shape was really different from the Prometeus' one.
Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by Kandinsky
Check out my post on page 4
I posted a (big) .gif of Prometheus creating gravitational waves on Saturns rings
Originally posted by LucidDreamer85
LOLOLOLOLOLOL No It's NOT !!!! Try again buddy. there are things in the first pic that are not in the second so it is OBVIOUSLY not the same pic. try again.
Originally posted by Aleilius
It's of my opinion that they seem to be observing and studying our race. I should also mention that it was not being chased by any military jets. I've come up with three theories: 1) they have the ability to cloak radar; 2) the military knows, and they do not pursue it; 3) the military knows, and have an agreement with them.
[edit on 15-2-2009 by Aleilius]
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by internos
Well played Internos
I'll be honest and admit to having a 'dumb' moment when I posted that image. I was that set in my mind that it was an asteroid, I hadn't for one second considered the moons. I hadn't even thought of one moon A good example of assuming an answer when asking the question!
Thanks for setting me straight, I needed it
I've just been looking for a diagram for the orbit of Prometheus without much luck. Although I did find a description of how it has a chaotic orbit and is 'mopping up' parts of the F Ring of Saturn. I'll have another look and post it if I find it.
Originally posted by amari
Originally posted by merka
I havent looked closer at it all, but this:
Definetly look like out of focus equipment...
I agree the photo is out of focus but it is the shape of a cigar shaped vehicle that we have comparisons of from other photos of objects in the Solar System.
What even intriques me even more with the photo AS16-120-19238 taken by Apollo 16 is actually what I can see located on the surface of the Moon.
The Orbital Mass Spectrometer Experiment measured the composition of the lunar atmosphere.
The Orbital Mass Spectrometer Experiment was performed on Apollo 15 and 16, with the objective of measuring the composition and distribution of gases in the lunar atmosphere. On Apollo 17, a mass spectrometer was deployed on the lunar surface for the same purpose.
The Orbital Mass Spectrometer was deployed from the Scientific Instrument Module on the Service Module on a 7.3-meter boom. Most of the gases detected by this instrument are believed to be associated with the Apollo spacecraft itself. However, neon-20 was detected that is believed to be from external sources. The amount of neon detected was about one-third of that expected to be found at the Moon due to capture of gases from the solar wind.