STOP the socialisms!

I wish the US government did not have to intervene in regards to the economic DOWNFALL.

A million and a half jobs lost in three months.

The DOW is circling the drain....

I see many members who are very opposed to government intervention. I get a sense that for many, this stimulus bill crosses the line...


SO I have an idea!

Why don't all the members who oppose the STIMULUS PACKAGE take action to prevent socialism and government "work".

This is a great way to let PRIVATE industry and capital prevail. Champion AMERICAN values and help create REAL jobs, while beating back this socialist march!

What is this idea?

INVEST HEAVILY!

Take responsibilty for AMERICAS future and show the government the right way, the AMERICAN WAY!

Below are links to some popular online brokers


YOUR a few clicks away from fixing our economy the non SOCIALIST way!

us.etrade.com...

www.tdameritrade.com... F-8oe%3DUTF-8


The US needs an influx of capital and many do not want socialism - SO let all who stand for real jobs and private industry put their money where their mouth is!!!

If you need suggestions on ways to stop the SOCIALISTATION of AMERICA I have many more where this can from!







[edit on 14-2-2009 by mental modulator]

reply to post by mental modulator



I can't wait until TUESDAY! I am going to put a lean on the old houso and buy me some shares!

You can't stop socialism nor the socialists. If you don't give them the handouts they demand, they'll just jack your home while you're away one day. Welfare is simply an alternative to having the thieve coming into your home and robbing you blind. Nope, you can't reform these thieves. So, the only real solution is to divide up the states. Those states that want to pursue the commie life style can become the new USSA (United Socialist States of America), while the rest become the new UFSA (United Freedom States of America). While I do not think it is right for a commie to demand EVERYONE become a socialist, I also do not feel it's right for all of us freedom lovers to deny the commies the right to enslave themselves, if that is what they really want. So, instead of fighting the commies/socialist, lets just divide this nation into two parts, and then each group can live as they please. Sounds good? Of course, I don't know how the commie states will survive if all of their citizens are on the welfare and nobody is working, but hey, that will be their problem to work out (maybe they can just keep printing up money and hand it out for free, ha).

Originally posted by Divinorumus
You can't stop socialism nor the socialists. If you don't give them the handouts they demand, they'll just jack your home while you're away one day. Welfare is simply an alternative to having the thieve coming into your home and robbing you blind. Nope, you can't reform these thieves. So, the only real solution is to divide up the states. Those states that want to pursue the commie life style can become the new USSA (United Socialist States of America), while the rest become the new UFSA (United Freedom States of America). While I do not think it is right for a commie to demand EVERYONE become a socialist, I also do not feel it's right for all of us freedom lovers to deny the commies the right to enslave themselves, if that is what they really want. So, instead of fighting the commies/socialist, lets just divide this nation into two parts, and then each group can live as they please. Sounds good? Of course, I don't know how the commie states will survive if all of their citizens are on the welfare and nobody is working, but hey, that will be their problem to work out (maybe they can just keep printing up money and hand it out for free, ha).

I like the idea about the states!
I know about the point on the welfare, I mean what's the point of work anyhow?

But then again do we have to take it to such an extreme? I'm torn...

In the meantime you can stop the socialism dead in its tracks by investing heavy in US corporations! Or you could buy a new house?

you do realize that your police department, fire department, public libraries, the US postal service and things like that, are socialist?

maybe u want to stop all that too :p but in my opinion they do a pretty good job.

I wish America were more socialist! I wish we had caps on how much money someone could make in a year. I wish the poor were able to see the doctor.

Originally posted by aNdReSk
you do realize that your police department, fire department, public libraries, the US postal service and things like that, are socialist?

ICKY!!!

Next time my house is burning I will ask my brother to fly in and help me put it out!

with SOCIALISTISM!

reply to post by sadisticwoman

Well, the Stimulus Bill just may actually STOP the poor from getting health care.

One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446). These provisions in the stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in his 2008 book, “Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis.” According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and “learn to operate less like solo practitioners.”

Let me put that in simple English(something the writers of the bill didn't do, because they don't want you to know what is really going on:

The government will decide WHETHER your life is worth saving, versus what it will cost to save your life. People will be reduced to a pure economic investment. If you're young, and capable of contributing to the wonderful socialist state, then you can have the health care procedure your doctor wants. On the other hand, if you are retired, or poor, and not contributing to the socialist state economically, you can die. I am not exaggerating. This is EXACTLY what Daschle talked about in his book.

Again:

The stimulus bill does that, and calls it the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research (190-192). The goal, Daschle’s book explained, is to slow the development and use of new medications and technologies because they are driving up costs. He praises Europeans for being more willing to accept “hopeless diagnoses” and “forgo experimental treatments,” and he chastises Americans for expecting too much from the health-care system.

Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.

www.bloomberg.com...
In plain English, let the elderly and the poor die. Of course, Daschle and his crooks get to decide who lives and who dies. I'm sure that if you contributed to the right election campaigns, you'll be allowed to live.

This is the beginning of the "Brave New World".

SOOOO! whos gonna join me in some stock market magic!


Where are all the conservatives?

FREE MARKET CAPITALISTS in the HOUSE!

I prefer tax payer funded roads as to toll roads thank you very much.

reply to post by mental modulator

This is a first, an OP that is trolling his own post!
Second line.

Originally posted by sadisticwoman
I wish we had caps on how much money someone could make in a year.

WHAT? That's crazy, man. Why would you want to limit someones productivity? And besides, you can't control how much a person wants to earn. I mean, suppose there is a farmer out there with a big ranch and makes a few million a year, and your cap idea limits income at $500,000. Would this farmer have to sell 5/6th of his ranch? And, what about others that earn millions every year. Instead of working 12 months a year earning as much as they can, does this mean they can only work for the first couple of months every year before they have to call it quits until next year? And what about the guy that owns a factory? Does he have to stop taking orders in March and lay off all his employees and shut down his factory for the rest of the year because he reach the limit on income and isn't allowed to run his factory any longer?

Get real man, you and any government have no right to limit an individuals right and desire to work as hard and earn as much as they possibly can and desire, that's just wrong. What you are talking about is lowering productivity, GDP, etc. You just can stipulate that some people can only work for a few months out of each year.

reply to post by ProfEmeritus


YOU sound like your giving up on AMERICA!

You want to halt the socialism?


INVEST in PRIVATE HEALTHCARE!

www.tdameritrade.com... F-8oe%3DUTF-8

reply to post by Divinorumus


I'm talking about money they keep in the bank, or being used for superfluous things like extra TVs or new hummers. Actual bills and the expenses of owning a business should not be counted in that.

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by mental modulator

 

This is a first, an OP that is trolling his own post!
Second line.

have a good laugh on me!

Why not INVEST?

Man, mental modulator, you crack me up!!!

My fave is the response to yourself.

Hah! Thanks, I needed that.

reply to post by mental modulator

have a good laugh on me! Why not INVEST?

Sure, right after you. I've got a great investment broker for you- Bernie Madoff. He'll double your money every 12 months, but you'll have to beg him to take you on. I hear he has more investors than he can handle. Call me after a year, and let me know how you did. Maybe then I'll consider it.

Originally posted by mental modulator
reply to post by ProfEmeritus

 

YOU sound like your giving up on AMERICA!

You want to halt the socialism?


INVEST in PRIVATE HEALTHCARE!

Yeah invest in private health care so you wont be left out of the hospital if you can't afford to pay the bill.

Dude do you support the current American health system?
or maybe you are a plastic surgeon.

Let's say for some reason you can't afford to maintain paying for your health insurance and you have a real health problem, do you wanna be left behind? just because you cant pay for it?

Seriously, if you like the current health system, u should use it to pay a visit to a doctor, you might need Psychiatric Care

I'm with you MM. I'm gonna put all my money back into GM. Buy American!!

Originally posted by aNdReSk
you do realize that your police department, fire department, public libraries, the US postal service and things like that, are socialist?

maybe u want to stop all that too :p but in my opinion they do a pretty good job.

What is mentioned above as socialism (police, fire, post office), is completely laughable! Those are aspects that are needed to help maintain peace and order and to provide people with a limited amount of security/safety in any and every society...Welfare and government forced programs are socialism, and so is when government governs every aspect of peoples lives, but socialism is NOT what you mentioned above. Where the hell did you learn that nonsense any damn way?

Taxes are a necessary evil, but taxes should only be in place to provide for basic government services... Like fire, police, roads, post offices, etc that are agreed too by the populace… Not tax those who worked hard for what they make/have, so sadistwoman and those like her can take more while giving so much less. Always taking more then they give always demanding more then they will ever earn because of bad choices THEY MADE in their lives… To force others to give those people more… now that is socialism!

Like… You know those people who smoke pot and play video games all day. Or having... oh I don't know, eight babies at one time, while at the same time charging Medicare 1.5 million dollars so her welfare receiving lazy pathetic ass, can force everyone else who works hard for what they have to pay for her pathetic wants and needs to look like Angelina Jolie. Now that is socialism in its most basic and evilest form… What socialism is not, is that nonsense about cops and firefighters… Seriously, you saying that made me laugh… Perhaps you meant that as a joke, I mean no one can really be that obtuse...

It is my belief that Socialism is pure evil! There is nothing and I mean nothing more evil then socialism, nothing!

Nothing but love!

--Charles Marcello