You can't stop socialism nor the socialists. If you don't give them the handouts they demand, they'll just jack your home while you're away one day. Welfare is simply an alternative to having the thieve coming into your home and robbing you blind. Nope, you can't reform these thieves. So, the only real solution is to divide up the states. Those states that want to pursue the commie life style can become the new USSA (United Socialist States of America), while the rest become the new UFSA (United Freedom States of America). While I do not think it is right for a commie to demand EVERYONE become a socialist, I also do not feel it's right for all of us freedom lovers to deny the commies the right to enslave themselves, if that is what they really want. So, instead of fighting the commies/socialist, lets just divide this nation into two parts, and then each group can live as they please. Sounds good? Of course, I don't know how the commie states will survive if all of their citizens are on the welfare and nobody is working, but hey, that will be their problem to work out (maybe they can just keep printing up money and hand it out for free, ha).

Originally posted by Divinorumus
You can't stop socialism nor the socialists. If you don't give them the handouts they demand, they'll just jack your home while you're away one day. Welfare is simply an alternative to having the thieve coming into your home and robbing you blind. Nope, you can't reform these thieves. So, the only real solution is to divide up the states. Those states that want to pursue the commie life style can become the new USSA (United Socialist States of America), while the rest become the new UFSA (United Freedom States of America). While I do not think it is right for a commie to demand EVERYONE become a socialist, I also do not feel it's right for all of us freedom lovers to deny the commies the right to enslave themselves, if that is what they really want. So, instead of fighting the commies/socialist, lets just divide this nation into two parts, and then each group can live as they please. Sounds good? Of course, I don't know how the commie states will survive if all of their citizens are on the welfare and nobody is working, but hey, that will be their problem to work out (maybe they can just keep printing up money and hand it out for free, ha).

I like the idea about the states!
I know about the point on the welfare, I mean what's the point of work anyhow?

But then again do we have to take it to such an extreme? I'm torn...

In the meantime you can stop the socialism dead in its tracks by investing heavy in US corporations! Or you could buy a new house?

you do realize that your police department, fire department, public libraries, the US postal service and things like that, are socialist?

maybe u want to stop all that too :p but in my opinion they do a pretty good job.

I wish America were more socialist! I wish we had caps on how much money someone could make in a year. I wish the poor were able to see the doctor.

Originally posted by aNdReSk
you do realize that your police department, fire department, public libraries, the US postal service and things like that, are socialist?

ICKY!!!

Next time my house is burning I will ask my brother to fly in and help me put it out!

with SOCIALISTISM!

SOOOO! whos gonna join me in some stock market magic!


Where are all the conservatives?

FREE MARKET CAPITALISTS in the HOUSE!

I prefer tax payer funded roads as to toll roads thank you very much.

Originally posted by sadisticwoman
I wish we had caps on how much money someone could make in a year.

WHAT? That's crazy, man. Why would you want to limit someones productivity? And besides, you can't control how much a person wants to earn. I mean, suppose there is a farmer out there with a big ranch and makes a few million a year, and your cap idea limits income at $500,000. Would this farmer have to sell 5/6th of his ranch? And, what about others that earn millions every year. Instead of working 12 months a year earning as much as they can, does this mean they can only work for the first couple of months every year before they have to call it quits until next year? And what about the guy that owns a factory? Does he have to stop taking orders in March and lay off all his employees and shut down his factory for the rest of the year because he reach the limit on income and isn't allowed to run his factory any longer?

Get real man, you and any government have no right to limit an individuals right and desire to work as hard and earn as much as they possibly can and desire, that's just wrong. What you are talking about is lowering productivity, GDP, etc. You just can stipulate that some people can only work for a few months out of each year.

Man, mental modulator, you crack me up!!!

My fave is the response to yourself.

Hah! Thanks, I needed that.

I'm with you MM. I'm gonna put all my money back into GM. Buy American!!

Originally posted by aNdReSk
you do realize that your police department, fire department, public libraries, the US postal service and things like that, are socialist?

maybe u want to stop all that too :p but in my opinion they do a pretty good job.

What is mentioned above as socialism (police, fire, post office), is completely laughable! Those are aspects that are needed to help maintain peace and order and to provide people with a limited amount of security/safety in any and every society...Welfare and government forced programs are socialism, and so is when government governs every aspect of peoples lives, but socialism is NOT what you mentioned above. Where the hell did you learn that nonsense any damn way?

Taxes are a necessary evil, but taxes should only be in place to provide for basic government services... Like fire, police, roads, post offices, etc that are agreed too by the populace… Not tax those who worked hard for what they make/have, so sadistwoman and those like her can take more while giving so much less. Always taking more then they give always demanding more then they will ever earn because of bad choices THEY MADE in their lives… To force others to give those people more… now that is socialism!

Like… You know those people who smoke pot and play video games all day. Or having... oh I don't know, eight babies at one time, while at the same time charging Medicare 1.5 million dollars so her welfare receiving lazy pathetic ass, can force everyone else who works hard for what they have to pay for her pathetic wants and needs to look like Angelina Jolie. Now that is socialism in its most basic and evilest form… What socialism is not, is that nonsense about cops and firefighters… Seriously, you saying that made me laugh… Perhaps you meant that as a joke, I mean no one can really be that obtuse...

It is my belief that Socialism is pure evil! There is nothing and I mean nothing more evil then socialism, nothing!

Nothing but love!

--Charles Marcello