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$950 dollars… the price of a Nation!

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posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 06:29 PM
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$950 dollars… the price of a Nation!

The Australian Government has decided to use my fellow country men and their descendants, my nation’s infrastructure and its resources as EQUITY to borrow $42 billion for economic stimulus and up to $200 billion for the government credit card, a debt that my great grandchildren will be paying back or will be enslaved for!

www.news.com.au...

And where is this debt coming from???
Global Banks
Rothschild financial advisors have advised the Aus Gov to put the nation into debt to the very same BANKERS that manipulated the current global situation, the same BANKERS that have advised world governments on how to solve this problem… “BAILOUTS” from money lent at interests from the very same people that WILL MANIPULATE TOTAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE!!!

And after they manipulate total collapse or hyper inflation the $242 billion in debt that my nation will owe will become an insurmountable amount impossible to pay back!
And next…

The global bankers will move to capture the EQUITY used by the current Aus Gov and that equity is my NATION!!!

And what do I get for selling my nation? $950 lousy stinking dollars
$950 dollars! For handing over my sovereign Nation, my soverirgn culture, my sovereign heritage!
$950 dollars for the hard work of my fathers
$950 dollars for the blood of the ANZACs
$950 dollars for the soil in which I am spiritually and physically invested

I have decide to wash my hands clean of this abomination!
Im giving it back!!! Im taking that $950 dollars worth of insult and handing it over to my local rep
MY SOUL WILL NOT BE BOUGHT FOR $950 DOLLARS

There is no price the Global banks can buy my heritage from me for, the only way they will get my home land from me is over my dead body.




posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 06:34 PM
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hi just replying to your text as a fellow australian seeing this coming dilemma.....and i was wondering how long its gona be before we start feeling the strain evident in europe and america right now???



posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 06:42 PM
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Not long now and because of our government’s shameful actions the ramifications will be tenfold



posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 06:44 PM
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i agree with you

if i was going to have to leave my home id want another home as a replacement (of my choosing haha)

950$ is a really bad deal



posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 06:51 PM
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so many of my country men are against it, but they all want the money, and i dont judge them i need it as well but when the Global banks come to claim the equity i want to have a clear conscious thats why im giving it back
I don’t want it, they can force me to pay the interest back thru taxes but my soul will be clean of the guilt that this government will feel when UN troops come marching in thanks to the cheapest sell out in world history
$950 for Australia.



posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 08:23 PM
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reply to post by Notroh est
 


Instead of giving it back all who get this money open your own bank

your own Public Credit Union ,the foundation for your economic soveriegnty



posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 09:23 PM
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This is not the first time Australia had run a debt, or used these economic fundamentals, I don't believe we have sold out our souls, but thats is just IMHO. Previously we had Govt. that ran debts, debts much larger than this one and with the IMF(who signed Bretton Woods 1944, Australia was there too) under the advice of one of its Founders. So, don't worry dude, you have been bought long ago and accepted the Keynesian General Theory in the Mid 30's. Australia has often done very well by this. Until now that is. I think that is how you could percieve it.

I agree with you that these are dangerous times to be generating such a debt. If you look at Greece, we can see the dangers, 90% of GDP gone to servicing a debt, leading to a selling of one particularly important state owned asset(ferry ports in Greece, google riots and Thessaloniki Ports) that led to massive rioting and violence, but locally our banks are in great shape, this is not true for most of EU(Greeces national bank needed to be bailed out), Britian and the USA.

What is more dangerous though, and why I think this debt may be bad news, is that the globe is facing a severe recession/depression and not only will our Govt. be indebt, but as individuals our levels of debt are extremely high already, with little savings in reserve. Our debt to income is twice as large as that in the depression era. This is not the Govts. fault, or the IMF's. The NWO did not make individual people borrow massively or encourage them not to save. But the Govt. solution will not solve this problem.

Our Govt. faces a problem, it seems to follow the John Maynard Keyne's(co-founder of the IMF) philosophy, since Prime Minister William Morris Hughes in the 30's that sees the govt. inject funds into the system via projects etc. That this will creates jobs, aids buisnesses etc. The money is filtered into the system thus increasing spending, which creates more buissneses and thus more jobs etc. etc. while still a small portion of that money is saved by the general population. That is the fundamentals that saw them practice debt after the economic catastrophies of the Depression(where we were in massive debt as one of the biggest Govt. borrowers when commodities crashed which we rellied upon as staple exports....sound familiar to todays minning exports!!!!!), WW1 and 2, but now we have high debt, no savings and, the biggy, a massive reduction in industry and production due to transnational globalisation moving these offshore due to cheaper labour costs elsewhere. It was a fact that in other harsh economic times western countries rellied on these industries, the savings of its citizens, and their lack of debt to dig them out. We do not have these now. This is why I believe the Govt. is injecting cash directly as bonuses, a well as trying to create projects.

In 1931 our currency bombed, we cut wages by 10%(try doing that now), we printed 18million Pounds, 12 of which was put into public works and to aid the unemployed and 6 million to our wheat industry.
Surprisingly our Federal Labour Treasurer EG Theodore (labour....hmm they just love a good debt.)
"the international bankers of the world are largely responsible for what has
happened to the monetary policy of the world in the last two years ... They were
the originating cause of the depression and the economic disaster that has
overtaken the world’.
. (I got this from a RBA research paper on Keynes and Australia that was done in 1985 but not released until 2000).
Theodore went on to quote Keynes in his writings of The Economic Consequences of Mr Churchill[:

The Bank of England has manoeuvred its assets and liabilities in such a way
as to reduce the amount of cash available to the clearing banks as a basis for
credit. This last is the essential instrument of credit restriction
. ... Credit
restriction is an incredibly powerful instrumen
t ... especially in
circumstances where the opposite course is called for. The policy of
deliberately intensifying unemployment with a view to forcing wage
reductions is already partly in force.
Wow, this sounds really familliar. Why is that. No credit, people losing jobs. So we have been here before, borrowed and recovered, while still holding on to our country, the resources etc. So there is No troops, no UN. I think you may be exagerating a little bit.
Just compare our debts to that of the EU, UK, USA. Haven't seen any invasions there yet?

Our government believes it understands the ramifications of the lack of credit in the private sector and believes that by injecting itself into the system it will help. But given that we already have seen our export commodities dive our dollar deflate, our personal debt reach record levels while our lack of savings is also high, coupled with little or no major export industry and production, I think this money will only be a slight salve, its like those poor people in Victoria, trying to fight a raging inferno with a garden hose. And sadly, like those horrors, We've seen and been here before. As Australians, we'll survive. I know we will. If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs.........

I applaud you stance.
But Keep the money.
Buy products from local producers.
Buy Locally grown foods.
Buy some gold.
Use it to Get rid of or reduce any personal debt(credit cards, loans, personal finance-AGC, GE, Myers etc).
Use it to start a garden of your own. Grow some vege.
Use it to start an emergency food store( if you think things will become that bad).
Buy a gun. LOL.
Just Don't give it back to them. Use it to help your community, in your community, locally.

Keep your head up bro.



posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 10:11 PM
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I appreciate your intelligent and informed reply, its always good to hear from a fellow aussie that has a grasp on the powers behind the scenes in this world

I agree with your last points

“Buy products from local producers.
Buy Locally grown foods.
Buy some gold.
Use it to Get rid of or reduce any personal debt(credit cards, loans, personal finance-AGC, GE, Myers etc).
Use it to start a garden of your own. Grow some vege.
Use it to start an emergency food store( if you think things will become that bad).
Buy a gun. LOL.
Just Don't give it back to them. Use it to help your community, in your community, locally. “

i already do these things with the money i work for (all but buy gold, too much coin needed)

I agree with all but the former

“But Keep the money. “

I don’t want to tell my descendants “I took the cash” when they ask me “why are we enslaved to this debt?”

But you have had an effect on me somewhat, I may give it to my local church to help the poor and needy instead of returning it to the bureaucrats

Cheers for you advice mate



posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 10:14 PM
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Any amount is never enough to buy a nation. This is so unfair if it really happens in real life.


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posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 11:06 PM
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In the 2005-06 Financial year our exports were almost $200billion. That was in just 1 year. The debt we're about to go into isn't really that much if you look at it in terms of how resourcful our country is.

We need to prevent falling into a deep hole. Our global credit rating is in a good place at the moment meaning we can take big loans at low interest and hassle free. If we wait until it gets bad then we will be in even bigger trouble.

As employment falls it is important that we can put in place measures to prevent it's worsening. By continuing to build our country we are able to continue growth rather than allowing it's growth to come to a halt or go backwards.

I am a small business owner, sometimes my business is making money and sometimes i need extra capital for growth and sometimes for unexpected equipment breakdown. Australia is like a small business on a global scale. Right now it needs that extra capital to continue growth in a period where the economy has unexpectingly failed.

One thing our country is great at doing is growing. It will be ok.



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 12:16 AM
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Great thread my man,

It's a shame these things aren't discussed in the MSM. Socialism is a treacherous road to be going down although I belive a little nation building at times can be a positive thing. There's certain necessities that will never be taken care of by the private sector (maintain schools/hospitals) - no profit. But the $950 thing seems more like political posturing from K.Rudd, as there would be more productive ways to use this money.

He wants to call an early election before the proverbial really hits the fan.

We can get a licence and use the money to buy a gun...



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 01:03 AM
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The MSM is a false prophet in my eyes
your 100% right we need to invest in schools and hospitals and build this nation, and build it for Australians, but why do we need "bailout" money to do so?
State government mismanagement would be a good place to start explaining that riddle, the NSW gov aka "Italian mafia" have done a fine job in pilfering the states wealth and bringing the infrastructure into a state of disrepair
and FED incompetency next, why does labour always go to the banks for DEBT??? do they truly lack the initiative to run a government without debt, its pathetic!
Or are they in bed with the global bankers? Do they really want to hand over the sovereignty of this country?
The way I see it is yes
Its manipulated! the global banks manipulate the market they cause the falls and rises the deflation and inflation and all along they are the ones gaining in control, gaining in influence, gaining peoples physical tangible wealth, houses, businesses, land!
Its well documented not just here but in main stream academia as well, as you know brother
And as I see it, they believe it is time for them to act GLOBAL they want all and now is the time, they have their puppet president they have the EU they have the UN they have every country on earth in DEBT and in DEBT to them
They will collapse the worlds sovereign currencies and then offer a world global currency and all will accept willingly
I see this as Australia following the lead of the puppet governments and the next step to the loss of sovereignty the loss of living standards the loss of true family the loss of freedom

"as there would be more productive ways to use this money. "

I agree but its where we are getting it that worries me

"He wants to call an early election before the proverbial really hits the fan."

the proverbial has already hit its just beginning to fall, and fall on all of us



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 01:13 AM
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"open your own Public Credit Union ,the foundation for your economic soveriegnty"

im with you here aswell, economic soveriegnty is key to true National soveriegnty



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 01:18 AM
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reply to post by Notroh est
 


Nice Reply bro,

I've noticed all your posts are well thought out and very eloquent.

Keep up the great work!!!



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 01:22 AM
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Always appreciate your words brother, next beer is on me



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 02:08 AM
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I would just like to point out that it is now $900 not $950 but hey Whats $50 when we are getting screwed as it is... I will be buying a large rain water tank with my money and putting the rest into seeds... When and if i get the money

I like many other aussies would love to see this money put to good use in new schools and other programs to make our country move forward but we know that the government don't listen to the sheeple

Good luck to every one
And my heart goes out to the people in Vic right now



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 12:26 PM
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Wow. We are only getting $800 for ours. You are getting a much better deal. I may move there.



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 12:36 PM
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The awareness you've raised here has done far more good than giving the money back ever would. Thanks for sharing and stay strong!



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by Notroh est
$950 dollars… the price of a Nation!

The Australian Government has decided to use my fellow country men and their descendants, my nation’s infrastructure and its resources as EQUITY to borrow $42 billion for economic stimulus and up to $200 billion for the government credit card, a debt that my great grandchildren will be paying back or will be enslaved for!

www.news.com.au...

And where is this debt coming from???
Global Banks
Rothschild financial advisors have advised the Aus Gov to put the nation into debt to the very same BANKERS that manipulated the current global situation, the same BANKERS that have advised world governments on how to solve this problem… “BAILOUTS” from money lent at interests from the very same people that WILL MANIPULATE TOTAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE!!!

And after they manipulate total collapse or hyper inflation the $242 billion in debt that my nation will owe will become an insurmountable amount impossible to pay back!
And next…

The global bankers will move to capture the EQUITY used by the current Aus Gov and that equity is my NATION!!!

And what do I get for selling my nation? $950 lousy stinking dollars
$950 dollars! For handing over my sovereign Nation, my soverirgn culture, my sovereign heritage!
$950 dollars for the hard work of my fathers
$950 dollars for the blood of the ANZACs
$950 dollars for the soil in which I am spiritually and physically invested

I have decide to wash my hands clean of this abomination!
Im giving it back!!! Im taking that $950 dollars worth of insult and handing it over to my local rep
MY SOUL WILL NOT BE BOUGHT FOR $950 DOLLARS

There is no price the Global banks can buy my heritage from me for, the only way they will get my home land from me is over my dead body.


Agreed!!!! No one should

Our heritage is what's at stake here - High and Proud!!!!!



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