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Must Read - Very Important Facts - Explains hype of 2012 and Climate Change

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posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 01:28 AM
Right in this post im going to open your eyes to the truth about 2012 read for your self and make your mind up! but i think it speaks for its self all the evidence!


First Source - Finding of huge breaches in our planet

Second Source - A Giant Breach in Earth's Magnetic Field

Third Source - Some magnetic worries

Fourth Source - Wiki's Explaination of climate change

Fifth source - Goverments explaination of climate change "Global Warming Debunked"

Sixth source - Get ready for 'devastating' solar storms

Last source - One possibility on how mars lost its water 7f4a7

An unexpected, thick layer of solar particles inside Earth's magnetic field suggests there are huge breaches in our planet's solar defenses, scientists said. These breaches indicate that during the next period of high solar activity, due to start in 2012, Earth will experience some of the worst solar storms seen in decades. Solar winds—charged particles from the sun—help create auroras, the brightly colored lights that sometimes appear above the Earth's poles.But the winds also trigger storms that can interfere with satellites' power sources, endanger spacewalkers, and even knock out power grids on Earth. "The sequence we're expecting … is just right to put particles in and energize them to create the biggest geomagnetic storms, the brightest auroras, the biggest disturbances in Earth's radiation belts," said David Sibeck, a space-weather expert at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland. "So if all of this is true, it should be that we're in for a tough time in the next 11 years." Data from NASA's THEMIS satellite showed that a 4,000-mile-thick (6,437-kilometer-thick) layer of solar particles has gathered and is rapidly growing within the outermost part of the magnetosphere, a protective bubble created by Earth's magnetic field...

A Giant Breach in Earth's Magnetic Field
12.16.2008 , NASA

NASA's five THEMIS spacecraft have discovered a breach in Earth's magnetic field ten times larger than anything previously thought to exist. Solar wind can flow in through the opening to "load up" the magnetosphere for powerful geomagnetic storms. But the breach itself is not the biggest surprise. Researchers are even more amazed at the strange and unexpected way it forms, overturning long-held ideas of space physics.

"At first I didn't believe it," says THEMIS project scientist David Sibeck of the Goddard Space Flight Center. "This finding fundamentally alters our understanding of the solar wind-magnetosphere interaction."

Some Magnetic Worries
Ken Tapping, May 29, 2007

Space is a hostile place; it is loaded with radiation, including gamma rays, x-rays and ultra-violet radiation, all of which are dangerous to us and the other life forms with which we share the Earth. Then there are showers and streams of high-energy particles from the Sun, such as protons and atoms stripped of many of their electrons. These can also be deadly. Luckily, our atmosphere stops most of the radiation, and the Earth's magnetic field stops or deflects the particles. An atmosphere and a magnetic field are good things for a planet to have, and are important elements in our welfare. It is therefore a bit worrying that there is evidence that our planet's magnetic field occasionally reverses, and during the transition it vanishes altogether.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Climate change factors
Climate Change is the result of a great many factors including; the dynamic processes of the Earth itself, external forces including variations in sunlight intensity, and more recently by human activities. External factors that can shape climate are often called climate forcings and include such processes as variations in solar radiation, deviations in the Earth's orbit, and the level of greenhouse gas concentrations

Green Myths On Global Warming — Debunked

MYTH Mankind is pumping out carbon dioxide at a prodigious rate.
FACT 96.5% of all carbon dioxide emissions are from natural sources, mankind is responsible for only 3.5%, with 0.6% coming from fuel to move vehicles, and about 1% from fuel to heat buildings. Yet vehicle fuel (petrol) is taxed at 300% while fuel to heat buildings is taxed at 5% even though buildings emit nearly twice as much carbon dioxide!

Get ready for 'devastating' solar storms
Posted by Ken Kaye

According to a recent press release, this era of increased solar activity will last 11 years and is officially called Solar Cycle 24. It is expected to build gradually and peak in 2011 or 2012, although “devastating” solar storms can occur at any time, NOAA’s Space Weather Prediction Center says.

Even NOAA’s top man, Conrad Lautenbacher, wants to make sure we’re all prepared for the worst:

“Our growing dependence on highly sophisticated, space-based technologies means we are far more vulnerable to space weather today than in the past,” he said in a prepared statement.

September 18, 2008
One possibility on how mars lost its water

Earth’s magnetic shielding protects us from this solar gale. Earth’s magnetosphere deflects solar wind particles before they penetrate our atmosphere. The auroras are visible evidence of the magnetosphere in action.

But Mars has a weak magnetic field so the carbon dioxide atmosphere is pummeled by the solar wind. The martian atmosphere extends hundreds of miles above the surface. The sun’s ultraviolet radiation ionizes the atmospheric gases and then the electrically charged solar wind snags these ions and sweeps them away.

Do your own research and post your thoughts on 2012 and the coming storm,

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posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 01:54 AM
Powerful Solar Storm Could Shut Down U.S. for Months
Friday, January 09, 2009 |
By Robert Roy Britt

"Impacts would be felt on interdependent infrastructures with, for example, potable water distribution affected within several hours; perishable foods and medications lost in 12-24 hours; immediate or eventual loss of heating/air conditioning, sewage disposal, phone service, transportation, fuel resupply and so on," the report states.

Outages could take months to fix, the researchers say. Banks might close, and trade with other countries might halt.

"Emergency services would be strained, and command and control might be lost," write the researchers, led by Daniel Baker, director of the Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics at the University of Colorado in Boulder.

"Whether it is terrestrial catastrophes or extreme space weather incidents, the results can be devastating to modern societies that depend in a myriad of ways on advanced technological systems," Baker said in a statement released with the report.

Stormy past

I think 2012 may be more of reality, its just funny how this isnt one of the major conspiracys on 2012 and niburu is more widly accepted lol! this seems to be punching us in the face with evidence. And the goverment must know that 2012 when the sun flips its magnetic poles and sends out a huge amount of radiation towards us. Is it going to get in? with the big holes apearing in the earths magnetic field the answer is yes!?

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posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 02:55 AM

NOAA Space Weather Scale for Solar Radiation Storms

Interesting look at the scale it go's to when at Extreme and the effects.

S 5
Biological: unavoidable high radiation hazard to astronauts on EVA (extra-vehicular activity); passengers and crew in high-flying aircraft at high latitudes may be exposed to radiation risk.***

Satellite operations: satellites may be rendered useless, memory impacts can cause loss of control, may cause serious noise in image data, star-trackers may be unable to locate sources; permanent damage to solar panels possible.

Other systems: complete blackout of HF (high frequency) communications possible through the polar regions, and position errors make navigation operations extremely difficult.
Fewer than 1 per cycle

But what if its worse than an S5 will that mean humans on the ground are in risk of high levels of radiation?

the discovery channel has covered how a bad solar storm could affect the earth

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posted on Feb, 23 2009 @ 06:51 AM
no replies? strange for ats

posted on Feb, 23 2009 @ 07:27 AM

Originally posted by theflashor
no replies? strange for ats

Hi, still reading the info you posted, will get back with some comments soon

As for the lack of comments, i guess well it is just that this doesn't involve a bunch of aliens coming to save of from going to work once again to the same boring place with the same boring people

That or that we will not become high spiritual entities just like that without any hard effort.

But anyway, be back soon and thanks for posting this info.


posted on Feb, 23 2009 @ 12:37 PM
reply to post by theflashor

I will reply to some of your post.. I would imagine that the first article you linked with dr sibeck is a bit more of these types of articles which hint that TSCHTF.. They tell you nothing you don't already know with the hint in a prominent place that TSCHTF..

one example:

He spends the first couple of paragraphs talking about this thick layer of particles which are going to cause chaos.. But in a sentence a few paragraphs later he says..

A thicker layer of solar particles, however, isn't enough by itself to create geomagnetic troubles for Earth.

So what is he really trying to say..

I concluded he is trying to say nothing.. I mean I have learned nothing new.

This type of reporting to me is typical of a lot of reporting we get subjected to every day of the week.. They tell you what could happen but never talk about what we could do in a crises such as this one.. I am sorry.. I wont read any more of your links because I get this kind of news in my news reader every day.. It all seems like fear mongering with nothing to say except we're all going to die.. Nothing about how we're all going to live..

Good post though.

Keep up the good work



posted on Feb, 23 2009 @ 04:41 PM
See, the thing is, facts. You have delivered them. Its so much funner to argue about opinions and fantasies that pose as facts. But thank you for your efforts! And besides, our cell phones, TV's and computers not working along with not having clean water, food or fuel for less than a year is just not as glamerous as to say 1/3 of the world will die by meteor, or some people will achieve a higher plane, WW3, the rapture, NWO takeover or a that a timewar will start when they get things rolling over at CERN with the LHD...

At least with the probes and satellites we have in place we should get a 15 minute warning for those that are paying attention that our tech will be useless

There is no room for facts here!
Try reposting under "breaking alternative news" then you can get loads of replies like "that's not new!" and "everybody already know's that!"

I hope you can appreciate sarcasm

posted on Feb, 24 2009 @ 12:41 PM
lol well the people that say its not of concern,

A thicker layer of solar particles, however, isn't enough by itself to create geomagnetic troubles for Earth.

You obviously dont understand how the earth interacts with solar storms do your research! The fact of the matter this is a subject of great concern and i dont think we are being told how serious this could be!

You shall eat my words when your internet gets knocked out on a regular basis. And your water and electric supplys are disrupted. Because at the minute we are seeing changes. And cause and effect of these changes are not good. Please do not post that this is not of importance as you obviously!! have not done your research!

These breaches indicate that during the next period of high solar activity, due to start in 2012, Earth will experience some of the worst solar storms seen in decades.

Please understand that decades ago this would not of been of great concern. But modern day man! it is very serious!

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posted on Feb, 24 2009 @ 12:44 PM

They tell you what could happen but never talk about what we could do in a crises such as this one

Its not what could its a matter of time and this is my concern, you please tell me what we have got setup to protect us from these sort of storms?

Nothing i shall tell you! i cant stand it when people make judgment on a post without understanding the OP!!

posted on Feb, 24 2009 @ 12:50 PM
reply to post by Xcouncil=wisdom

Yes but each source explains different parts of facts, put them together and you shall see another picture forming. Which is my concern. Please do not take one source as that is not my object with this post, please understand the bigger picture!

As you can see the earths magnetic field protects us from the suns storms.

They have told us that this Solar Maximum is going to be stronger then previous ones (this not taking into account the recent decline in the earths magnetic field)

They have told us that the earths magnetic field is failing

They have told us it continues to decrease at the moment %15 weaker.

They have told us Solar particles are breaching the earth.

They have also told us basically the magnetic field is playing up we are not sure why, recently its even opened up holes, 4 times bigger than earth which was previously not thought possible! Luckily we was within solar minimum when this happened.

And we know the effects on our little planet when we get hit by these solar storms, The auroas may look very pritty but it means trouble for highly populated modern day man!

People getting the picture yet?

Another thing
reply to post by Xcouncil=wisdom

you also havnt done your research, you say we would get a 15 minute warning. Wrong, we would get a good day or 2! as thats how long these storms take to reach earth.

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posted on Feb, 24 2009 @ 01:08 PM
In my opinion a well researched and presenten thread,what ATS should be about.

Nice one theflashor.

Star and flag.

posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 07:53 AM
funny how many plane crash's just recently, birds and wales getting lost to.. Hmm people know how these all navigate right?

posted on Feb, 26 2009 @ 04:09 PM
I came across this and thought of your thread, I imagine you might want to check it out...its in the research've probably seen it, if not, I'm sure you'll like

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