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We Are Being Setup For Civil War!!!!!!!

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posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 12:08 AM
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I'm seeing it now people,

There is a MASSIVE plan underway to divide and conquer the people, to cause a civil war, the things they wish to achieve in this, and in no particular order are:

Depopulation (through casualties, our dead bodies in other words).
Government Loyalty.
The NAU.
Big, Huge, Massive Government.
To Bring In The NWO.

Things so far that are active parts of this plan:

1. The "Stimulus Package".

2. The States trying to get back there sovereignty.

3. The Obama worship/love/supporters.

4. The Obama NLP


They are trying to use a new tactic on us, you, me and the rest of this country, but mostly us here on ATS.

    The outrage over the stimulus package by talking heads and the citizens is part of this, they (the media and the government) are targeting a portion of us by getting us to go bonkers over this thing, then drumming it up with the other portion as being some sort of salvation, there will be more legislation like this passed soon.

    The States getting back there sovereignty may or may not be real, it may be all part of the plan or a result of it, but it is one more thing that will separate us, even some of the most patriot ones of us here.

    The Obamatrons (to sum up all I have seen, not meant as an attack, but for the lack of a better term), they are going nuts, seriously, I don't believe all of his supporters are psychos, but dang, when you here "Oh precious Obama... Thankyou for taking time out of your day to come down here and speak to us, OH, THANK YOU GOD!!! (the man this whole time was crying)" and of course we've all heard these people who think they wont have to work, pay taxes, blah, blah, blah, but what really scares me is when I hear members on ATS literally say that they "make there kids say prayers to Obama every night", I know something is up. This memorization is another dividing factor, that is a clear indicator of a line being drawn.

    Now, you may or may not believe it, but it's true, very true, especially if you're a sports fan, Obama is using NLP (Neural Linguistic Programming) on people, he IS using a FORM of hypnotism, I know a thing or two about NLP, seeing how I've used it before to get information out of people or to get my way (yes, I've stooped that low before I regretfully admit), I keep picking up on some of his pauses and the tone, volume, way he says things, I am "immune" to NLP though, so I am not affected by the brain washing that the majority of us are going through. This is a tactic to increase support with his supporters, despite the horrific things he's trying to push through.


People, this is all to set us up against each other, I don't know what this operation is called, but it is clear to me what is going on, a plan to divide us and control us.

Also, if I'm missing any f"parts of the plan", please let me know.

Star & Flag this! It's important!

-Lahara


[edit on 14-2-2009 by TheRandom1]

[edit on 14-2-2009 by TheRandom1]




posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 12:47 AM
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I am hearing of state after state running out of unemployment money, was there any of this replinishment money in the stimulus? anyhow I am coming close to agreement, something is coming, I happened to be in a store today that had the news playing and it was story after story of layoffs, cutbacks and counties and localities going bankrupt, I really do not know if the stimulus will help, when states like Cali have pretty much had it, that's a huge chunk of poverty.



posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 01:00 AM
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you may be making a very valid point here. However, i think that right now they are still trying to appease us while taking even MORE of our money. they've got people believing and hoping that this new stimulus package will "change" everything and set us in the right direction. if civil war happens though, people stop paying their taxes, and the sovereignty of states becomes more important...this would likely be unproductive to their overall goal, which we can probably all agree is total control. i personally think that they are trying to assuage our fears, while continuing to make money off of us.



posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 01:03 AM
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Oh yea, they are trying too and they will succeed.

Who will win? That is hard to tell I do know one thing though it won't happen for a year or so. When it does happen the government as we know it will cease to exist.

The question is though will the majority of people rally to revert to a constitutional republic like the founding fathers intended or will it go the other way?



posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 01:06 AM
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Yay, the sheeple are going to die!

What now sheeple?

Before you die, go get a printer and print as much money as you like.

Collapse the corrupt money system.

Activate The Venus Project to counter NWO.

[edit on 14-2-2009 by ctjctjctj]



posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 01:13 AM
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yeah, dude, read the Telegraph BlackJack series dude.

Its intense.


ANd its all over MSM, Time Magazine, Financial Times of London, alomst every big company has one article or another about how we need a new Financial World Bank and World Government by and for the Bankers.


I just dont understand how people cant start questioning things. The proof of corruption is EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!


heres the link to The crazy Telegraph comic which appears to have a total of 6 parts:

www.telegraph.co.uk...


please read this, its the craziest media story ive ever read, and it seems to serve some purpose, what it is, no one knows. It has a fair following though.




and print fake money at your own risk!

Faking the Feds NWO Illuminati currency's is the best way to be there number one enemy.





[edit on 14-2-2009 by ats__fan039]



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 08:22 PM
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Hey, first post here. I was just wondering something: say the worst case scenario goes down and we do have a second civil war, and America breaks up into a couple of different nations like I've heard talked about. What happens to all the debt the US owes to other countires? Who pays the US government's debt when there's no US government anymore?

[edit on 15-2-2009 by TheGrinningMan]



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 08:29 PM
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We all know it was bound to happen sooner or later, the greed and corruption by the banking elite and governments always bring about the ruin of the common people.

We are on the edge of the end of our way of life... drink it up while you can. savor each day of freedom as if it was the last.

I believe fema camps will activate and there will be depopulation on a massive scale in the near future.

Lots of evidence and whistle blowers sounding the alarm of a very grave dark future following this collapse.



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 08:57 PM
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The only way to avoid a war is to not be a part of one.

Help each other out.

Remember if we ban together and get into a place where we help one another instead of hurt one another - then we will literally save one another.
And no one will be able to keep us down.

Don't forget that the old ways don't work anymore.
We are no ones slaves and we all have the ability to use our brains instead of our brawn. It's time to rise up - only this time in peace.

Let's prove the government wrong.
We aren't going to fight with each other.
We are going to keep each other afloat.

[edit on 15-2-2009 by spinkyboo]



posted on Feb, 15 2009 @ 09:21 PM
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Two things. First I beleive we are heading for a civil war, and Obama will make it happen when the money has been spent. Obama is the anti-Lincoln. Both were from Illinios, and both were 1st time senators with little experience. Obama even tried to take the oath of office on Lincoln"s Bible as if to prove the point of the link, but that's where it ends. Lincoln set the slaves free, but Obama wants to enslave us all. Lincoln kept the Union together, but Obama is dividing it up.

The war will look like this. First they will spend the money till they default the currency. Next, after the riots for food and gas, he will declare martial law and suspend Congress. States will decide not to send any money to the Federal Government, people will stop paying taxes to the Federal government. Obama will suspend certain State legislatures and the people will openly defy the Federal government. Obama will send it the military from foreign sources. Groups of States will combine to fight them, along with the populace. The war will last five to ten years. After the war, the States will strip the federal government of most of it's power and a number of state blocks will rotate the presidency thereafter.

The war will not be pretty. The liberalists and Obamanites who live in the cities will be favored so that protection zones will be erected around those cities. The rest of the nation will be against the major cities.

How to stop it? Don't allow the government to spend another ten trillion dollars. Our nations worth is estimated at fifty trillion, but once we cannot pay the interest on foreign debt, it's over for the US dollar. What needs to be done is to vote for those who are against socialism, and vote out the ones that are for it, which by the way is the entire democratic party in Washington.



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 09:54 PM
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Interesting post my friend. My understanding of your theory is that Obama is part of the NWO and hence, they are underway in causing a division between liberal and conservative, republican and democrat, etc. to achieve the ultimate goal of supreme takeover and control. The problems I have with this are as follows:
The division between the two "cultures" in America were never made by the NWO (IMHO) They are created because we have a country with so many states that yes, do culturally retain soverignty (hence the coasts and big cities vs. the heartland) The ideological differences between the two are growing and if you take recent history into account it seems things get more heated when we have some big "event" (i.e 9/11 or financial meltdown) that needs a solution. We all have different answers! Now, could it be possible, assuming the Illuminati exist, that they would use these differences that we have put in place against us? Sure! But presidents past have laid the foundation for such a takeover, and this would not leave especially Bush or possibly Clinton out of this establishment, so one would have to be weary of EVERY president, not just the one whose political party you do not agree with.
When it comes to the stimulus, Bush called for it. Obama called for it. Privy to some information we don't know? It seems they're on the same team, if it is Illuminati or not I do not know, but probably not.
I do support Barack Obama, have liked him since '05, and I do live on one of those big coastal cities. I seek no handout-in fact one of the reasons I believe in him is because of his rise throughout academia and professional success considering his modest backround. I respect that. More importantly, conpared to someone like Bush whose NWO ties would leave his soverignty to the U.S population questionable at best, wouldn't a once "nobody" like Obama seem like the right guy for the job if a NWO takeover is what you fear most?
See, you and I are not so different: It was very long ago that I crying out for people to wake up to the Bush/Cheney NWO 9/11 False Flag Double-speak extravaganza that I was certain would end tragically....but nothing. Phew. That is why we probably are both on ATS-we have completely different ideologies but a conspiracy mind....so I will always know there is something that binds us. ATS is the last place people should be so divisive....
However, in the real world do I think a civil war is possible? Yes, I suppose, but unlikely-the US is so different from one group to the next and people have been getting so very heated.. But I agree, if big government is what the "Obama agenda" is then a civil war would be the last thing they would ever want. If you were to keep the system "as is" then you reap maximum financial benefit. If the NWO exists would they use depopulation of another sort perhaps? Yes, maybe..if so that would make perfect sense. FEMA camps? Personally, I think they're for some upcoming disaster that is not government instigated.
If civil war ever broke out I would never fight my fellow American. I am too patriotic for that and anyone who would consider themselves patriotic also should do the same as well.



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by spinkyboo
The only way to avoid a war is to not be a part of one.

Help each other out.

Remember if we band together and get into a place where we help one another instead of hurt one another - then we will literally save one another.
And no one will be able to keep us down.

Don't forget that the old ways don't work anymore.
We are no ones slaves and we all have the ability to use our brains instead of our brawn. It's time to rise up - only this time in peace.

Let's prove the government wrong.
We aren't going to fight with each other.
We are going to keep each other afloat.



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 10:14 PM
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What I'm about to say may not be very popular, but it needs to be said.
The US citizens, along with the banksters and policrookians, have set THEMSELVES up. GREED is the common thread here. Greedy bankers, brokers, politicians, AND AVERAGE CITIZENS.

People that couldn't REALLY afford houses, went along with Freddie and Fanny and Barney Frank's scheme to get mortgages for people who really couldn't afford them, and wouldn't be able to keep them.

Citizens kept throwing money into a stock market that was overinflated, because they thought it was a never-ending gravy train.

Citizens kept loading up on their credit cards to buy goods they really didn't need to survive, but were allured by the commercials that said "You deserve yo pamper yourself".

People rooted on foreign wars in places they couldn't even find on a map, or spell, because they could watch the :Shock and Awe" on CNN live.

People pushed for the government to do more and more for them, never wondering where the money would come to PAY for all those programs.

And then, when TSHTF, what do they scream for?- More Government programs, more debt, more handouts, more "give me, give me".

And then people wonder why TSHTF and is now blowing back in their face?



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 10:22 PM
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I completely agree with you (and anyone with the understanding of the situation would as well) in regards to the cause. However, to say these are the same people who solely support the bailout would be untrue. Very few citizens are innocent when it comes to American greed and ever-ravenous, out of control consumerism.
The bailout/stimulus debacle, over the actual solution to our very sorry mistake, is based on differing ideologies...again the product of nobody but our own worldviews.



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 10:25 PM
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I don't know...I think this is going to backfire in their face if they are trying to set this up.



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 10:59 PM
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They'll lose a war.
They will win if they gain allies ...like Joe "I believe Authority" Doe...or I love my Government...or I am Brainwashed guy.
That is how they will win..right in front of your face....otherwise they will lose.
BTW, someone mentioned blackjack..part six? There is already part six? Link please.



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 11:05 PM
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I am all for the state sovreignty. I have to ask though, how can the states possibly have a dog in they fight when the cries out for a federal buck are much louder than for sovreingty?



posted on Feb, 16 2009 @ 11:06 PM
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I stated this on the hot thread about the dollar buys in Asia, and I'll repeat it here, because it applies"




I wouldn't bet on anything now, other than the fact that you need 4 things to survive: Food Medical Supplies Shelter Protection from those who would steal the above Take whatever you have to spare, and ensure that you have plenty of all 4. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. All the gold in the world won't help you if you can't eat. I ask you this simple question: If there are two groups left in the world: A.) who has food, medical supplies, shelter, and protection and B.) who has all the gold in the world Which group would YOU rather be with?



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 06:43 AM
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Americans should start to disengage from an over dependance on big banks, big corporations and big government. Do what the big boys do, start looking out for yourself and your friends. Combine together to benefit each other and protect each other.

I rag on America quite a bit in these forums but I am, in truth, a huge fan of America. The American people are second to none in pulling up their own bootstraps and making things happen.

In my opinion America has to dust off it's somewhat neglected number one virtue, it's love of the labor of making something out of nothing. Turn off the TV America. Get interested in putting something together that will help both you and your friends. You have the talent. You can do it.



posted on Feb, 19 2009 @ 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by awake_awoke
More importantly, conpared to someone like Bush whose NWO ties would leave his soverignty to the U.S population questionable at best, wouldn't a once "nobody" like Obama seem like the right guy for the job if a NWO takeover is what you fear most?
See, you and I are not so different: It was very long ago that I crying out for people to wake up to the Bush/Cheney NWO 9/11 False Flag Double-speak extravaganza that I was certain would end tragically....but nothing. Phew. That is why we probably are both on ATS-we have completely different ideologies but a conspiracy mind....so I will always know there is something that binds us. ATS is the last place people should be so divisive....


You forget the lesson of Jimmy Carter. He appeared as an outsider, a "Mr Smith Comes to Washington", type. But he turned out to be CFR to the core and just another hand picked candidate. If someone gets the stamp of the media and the money, they an NWO candidate.

As far as not ending tragically, the damage done assures a tragic ending. The date just got moved up.



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