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Michelle Obama's Blatant "Bhaphomet" Front Page of Vogue

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posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 08:21 PM
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So I was just sitting here reading the thread, when all of the sudden I realized my hand was doing the same thing!!!! Do I need an exorcist? Does ATS have a resident expert for getting rid of bad ju-ju?

As a fashionista, I think she looks great. I think you're just jealous. It's so hard to be beautiful...



[edit on 13-2-2009 by Sergeant Stiletto]




posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 08:25 PM
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uuuuhhhhmmmm

Gosh, can we say, some people really need to get on some medication?

and then


Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman

Ok one superficial comment - I just hate the way she's always barring her teeth in pictures. I just strikes me wrong every time I see it.

[edit on 13/2/2009 by Iamonlyhuman]


The woman is just smiling, are you telling me that any time someone gives you a smile that shows their teeth they are "barring" their teeth at you?
I really hope your comment was sarcasm. If it was, I apologize.

You guys are "grasping at straws". Do me a favor, get in the same position, and see how your fingers relax, it is a NORMAL motor movement. DAAAANNNGG




posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 08:26 PM
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Huh? You're post is coming off as a bit manic now. Why would a magazine want us to have subliminal Baphomet messages? Why are you quoting "special" or "holy" in a response to me? I sure never said it
In fact I think quite the contrary. Why would you ask me a question Obama supporters would answer? You have a weak theory so you start summing me up as an Obama supporter. Why? Because I disagree? Because I need more proof? Isn't that the rational approach? You're the one who got yourself into this. You're the one who started the post. Why don't you provide evidence to support any of your claims? Why do I have to disprove them when your claim is she is giving the Baphomet symbol. Well for one, she's not. Yes, it is similar, but she's not, as another member has already mentioned.... ATS isn't a place for posting something without sources and then going. "Go! And disprove me!"
Maybe I should start a thread saying we all are created by a one eyed octopus with alien genes. It would be my responsibility to prove it as OP. Not have others disprove it. I am just disagreeing with something when there is not enough proof offered. What is so wrong with that?

[edit on 13-2-2009 by NordicMan]



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by amazed
uuuuhhhhmmmm

Gosh, can we say, some people really need to get on some medication?

and then


Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman

Ok one superficial comment - I just hate the way she's always barring her teeth in pictures. I just strikes me wrong every time I see it.

[edit on 13/2/2009 by Iamonlyhuman]


The woman is just smiling, are you telling me that any time someone gives you a smile that shows their teeth they are "barring" their teeth at you?
I really hope your comment was sarcasm. If it was, I apologize.

You guys are "grasping at straws". Do me a favor, get in the same position, and see how your fingers relax, it is a NORMAL motor movement. DAAAANNNGG



Lol... no it's not sarcasm. Something's wrong with her mouth or something (it may be her jawline). Her smile is not natural looking, she literally looks like she's barring her teeth when she smiles. I know she's not a demon or anything
but her smile just makes her look fake to me. Look at her smile again...



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 08:40 PM
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It's the jawline. My ex-gf had the same thing.



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 08:42 PM
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You guys are "grasping at straws". Do me a favor, get in the same position, and see how your fingers relax, it is a NORMAL motor movement. DAAAANNNGG


Haha, we should run office with the new mantra, "grasping at straws...".



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 08:43 PM
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In special etc, I was just rebringing something up that has been discussed on ATS quite a lot. Indeed the site Owners started a thread on it, there seems to be a dis-balance and certain "holy" status about any negative comments made about the Obama's, compared to equally outspoken members on other public office or famous people.

On the rest.... well please bring in sources for your Octopus planet will be happy to respond, on this topic we are not talking theories, the picture is there for all to see...

If you dont want to believe the amount of manipulation that goes into every type of advertising or Photo Shoot like this one , fine, but the earth is still round and not flat and maybe google some of the people I mentioned.

Post a Sales brochure and I will pick out, point out every detail to you, have a saleman in your home office and I can mark him and coach him how to improve his body language image etc, Ive coached sales teams, lived in that horrible NLP world, seen the words that people are trained to speak, and how shops are meant to "look" after paying huge amounts to psychologists to get you to act and behave in a certain way. From previous work experience too in the Mental Health field I know the power of communication.

If you want to belive it is just an Innocent front cover that's fine.... but I bet a lot of people wont realise in 4-6 weeks time when they talk about her see her as smart and stylish (group consensus on vogue and fox said so), she is a "queen" subconsciously ESP to ethnic Minorities, we can trust them the obamas to get us out of this disaster film we are in as we head for depression and world war again as they are "Superheroes" or have " superpowers" how most men will be slightly sexually attracted to her, and associate sex with spending, etc etc...

Thats fine but it will happen all over the country, please do read on Hitler, watch ALL of derren Brown esp the advertising one, read Nildram, Milton, Erickson, Milton, go on an NLP course, understand trigger words and basic hypnosis, QUESTION why you make your next purchase, if not essential... and ask yourself where every belief system you have came from and what is the truth.

I am not getting personal with yourself Nordicman just responding.

Its as clear as a bell for me looking at it.... and its not me being " delusional" but how the world works and infact is behind around 40% of your choices in life. Its not me saying that but a bulti billion $ industry and SCIENTIFIC proven repeatable experiments to show it for nearly a hundred years now.

Kind regards,

Elf.



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 08:51 PM
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I can't call you a .... can I?

Okay, I won't.

If my arm was draped over the arm of a couch, in the position she is in, my hand would look just like that.

This is just totally ignorant crap.

[edit on 2-13-2009 by Valhall]



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 08:55 PM
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I am not arguing that there is a re-sembalance between the mudra and her hand gesture per say. I think it doesn't resemble it, but there is fair enough reason to believe it does if you think it is a rather relaxed, undefined version. I think what is being debated here right now is whether it is intentionally being done or not and so far there is no reason to believe it is. The hand itself can naturally relax that way as other members stated, and as I have done many occasions.
Because there is a lack of proof given this information does not mean I am right and you are wrong. I am just choosing given the lack of substantial information revolving around Michelle Obama's gesture that it does not have to do with Baphomet and I don't think there is enough evidence within the picture to jump to the conclusion that it does.



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 09:13 PM
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She is doing the Satanic hand gesture with the bottom hand.

The picture looks very "fake."



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 09:21 PM
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My God. I am already so incredibly sick of the Obamas. I simply want to barf every time I hear that name or see either one of them. I don't know a bhaphomet from a hole in the wall, but I do know that I don't agree with Vogue's cover: I have not been waiting for this particular first lady and would have lived the rest of my life happily if I'd never seen her face.



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 09:24 PM
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I think it's a natural pose. I just tried it myself, by placing my arm in a relaxed way that my hand would dangle over the edge and my fingers did exactly the same thing. Maybe because these are the longest fingers, more weight? Don't know, but try it yourself.



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 09:26 PM
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During one of Obama's post election speeches, I saw a clip of her walking up to a man in the audience, and as she bent down, she flashed a sign that the deaf use to mean 'I love you' but she flashed it quickly, covertly.

I was immediately suspicious of her ever since. Honestly, they should know better than to make those hand signs unless they understand that they will come into scrutiny for its use.

And now this, this was an carefully scripted pose. Much thought was put into displaying a person of her influence for Vogue, and she is flashing the Sign of Satan. This hand sign is not comfortable to make nor is it a natural hand position to relax into.

It was a deliberate display of the Sign of Satan.

A in-your-face gesture of their perceived power.

I believe that Michelle Obama is a member of some Satanic order, as difficult or impossible for it to be believed as fact.

What a world. What a world. *headshakes.



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 09:26 PM
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You are kidding aren't you?

How do get a conspiracy out of that?

I see another case of making a stupid thread to rack up points.

You need to get out more, or get another interest. I actually feel a bit sad for you



resi



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 09:30 PM
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Pressure on the muscles and or nerves of the arm can cause this just as easily as it being intentionally a notice to the world that she worships Lord Satan. Then again, maybe she's just a rocker!




posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 09:40 PM
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Ummm....lmao.

I believe with the pentagram you are matrixing. Why don't you include the left elbow? What is the significance of the left elbow? omgs!

I'll have to remember this pose the next time I go to Olan Mills.

No disrespect intended but, this is just silly to me. If not silly then I'd go the other route wondering about the disinformation of it all. Paranoia plus Christians equal a large population base. The real agenda of the NWO remains unseen as they scream "Hey...look over here! See this!" Are there a lot of christian fashionistas? I suppose there are in every culture.


I always knew fashion was wicked cool.



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 09:42 PM
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You have a non model in a model photo shoot.

These things are completely choreographed by the director.

Most likely, since she is not trained, they were coaching her on posing, caught her in a movement, and had to take the best shot out of the bunch.



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by YouAreDreaming
Her inner fingers are not closed enough to make the sign, that could just be how she relaxes her hand.

Not to be mean, but isn't Vogue front cover for beautiful women?


And what is a "point of reference" for beauty? Her skin or hair or facial sculpture? What?



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 11:53 PM
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Here is another interpretation. Seems to be a matter of perspective.
Kinda like seeing faces in clouds, rocks, water, trees.


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posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 01:22 AM
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I was actually curious about what connection Baphomet had to the NWO. So I did a bit of research, already being familiar with the Eliphas Levi depiction and some of its meaning. Yes, the source quoted is Wikipedia, but I'm lazy about research. So let's take a brief look at Lord Baphomet according to some limited research.


Baphomet is a name of unestablished origin, but probably an Old French corruption and misspelling of the name Mahomet (Muhammad). It first appeared in the mid-thirteenth century in clear reference to Muhammad, but later appeared as a term for a pagan idol in trial transcripts of the Inquisition of the Knights Templar in the early 1300s.


So then sending hand signals to Baphomet is essentially the same as hand signals to Mohammed? Now, of course the Knights Templar are mentioned, and any conspiracy theorist worth their salt can draw at least a muddy delineation between the Templars and the modern Illuminati.


Over 100 different charges had been leveled against the Templars, most of them clearly false, as they were the same charges that were leveled against many of King Philip's enemies. For example, he had earlier kidnapped Pope Boniface VIII and charged him with near identical offenses of heresy, spitting and urinating on the cross, and sodomy. However, the charges about the worship of an idol named Baphomet, were unique to the Inquisition of the Templars. As Karen Ralls has pointed out, "There is no mention of Baphomet either in the Templar Rule or in other medieval period Templar documents".


Okay, rule out the Templars, so then perhaps the Illuminati are worshiping the image of Baphomet as conceived by Eliphas Levi titled The Baphomet of Mendes (As in the Egyptian god Mendes.). So then perhaps it would be a good idea to take a look at the picture and the symbolism.



A nasty looking fellow indeed, very familiar as a popular, and relatively modern, representation of evil. According to the article, this is what the picture symbolizes.


The goat on the frontispiece carries the sign of the pentagram on the forehead, with one point at the top, a symbol of light, his two hands forming the sign of hermetism, the one pointing up to the white moon of Chesed, the other pointing down to the black one of Geburah. This sign expresses the perfect harmony of mercy with justice. His one arm is female, the other male like the ones of the androgyn of Khunrath, the attributes of which we had to unite with those of our goat because he is one and the same symbol. The flame of intelligence shining between his horns is the magic light of the universal balance, the image of the soul elevated above matter, as the flame, whilst being tied to matter, shines above it. The beast's head expresses the horror of the sinner, whose materially acting, solely responsible part has to bear the punishment exclusively; because the soul is insensitive according to its nature and can only suffer when it materializes. The rod standing instead of genitals symbolizes eternal life, the body covered with scales the water, the semi-circle above it the atmosphere, the feathers following above the volatile. Humanity is represented by the two breasts and the androgyn arms of this sphinx of the occult sciences.


A lot of occult mumbo-jumbo, or wisdom depending on your slant, but not particularly the most evil thing I've ever heard.

Let's not exclude the Freemasons.


Christian evangelist Jack Chick claims that Baphomet is a demon worshipped by Freemasons, a claim that apparently originated with the Taxil hoax.. Léo Taxil's elaborate hoax employed a version of Lévi's Baphomet on the cover of Les Mystères de la franc-maçonnerie dévoilés, his lurid paperback "exposé" of Freemasonry, which in 1897 he revealed as a hoax satirizing ultra-Catholic anti-Masonic propaganda.


Okay, anyone unfamiliar with Jack Chick and with a taste for the absurd should check him out.



And then the Church of Satan as a bit of fringe.


The Church of Satan is an organization dedicated to the acceptance of Man’s carnal self, as articulated in The Satanic Bible, written in 1969 by Anton LaVey.


Deists rather than true worshipers of the Christian devil, which could well describe most of the power players in US politics, but I digress.

So, honestly, I'm still not sure what the connection is between the NWO and Baphomet. Anyone else have anything to enlighten the issue?
Without that connection, I'm not sure even the vaguest proof of the said hand gesture holds any water whatsoever.



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