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I NOW Get It! There is NO Dream of America Anymore - I NO longer Believe

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posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 11:18 AM
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You think the American dream actually existed? The whole thing was a lie, America was a lie. It was ruled by hypocrites and liars from the very beginning. Most people are unaware that the men who declared "all men are born equal" in the constitution, owned African slaves, or that all the wars America has ever fought was for profit, never to aid people in need. Do not let Alex Jones or his like fool you, what is going on in the USA is NOT something new, not a phenomenon of the last thirty years. And all this about the "god given rights" (lol) and the constitution (that never applied to the common man anyways) is just silly. I'm tired of red-neck conservative "patriots" who always wave the flag and start whining about the "socialist" (yeah right) in the federal government who destroy their country, or steal their freedom with taxes. What's with everyone crying during the election anyways? "Oh no, a differnet puppet." I'm sick of nationalism, people being so "proud" to be American. Proud of being born on a particular spot on the planet, acting like that makes them superior. There never was any American democracy. It's not about the democrats or the republicans; can’t you see they're two sides of the same coin? It was a one party state all along.
Quit acting like the NWO is something "un-American" lurking upon you from across the Atlantic, the USA was founded in the name of the NWO. No country has served this agenda more than the USA in the 20th century.
If you want freedom, you should recognise the slavery first. You were never free and you will never be in their system. Their "democracy" is not the rule of the people. We need to GIVE the power to the people, to the workers, the majority of the world's population who has been oppressed for so many centuries. Not to the bureaucrats of governments, not the corporations, not the markets, and not the banks. As you may have guessed, I'm a communist. I want a world where there are no classes, no exploitation, no war or starvation, no money or banks, no state or governments, no annoying nationalist games, a world where progress is in the centre, not profit. Sure, a lot of patriotic Americans will flame me for this but I can’t take this #### any more.

Sorry if I went off-topic or anything, next time I'll start my own thread for my rantings.




posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by Mudler
As you may have guessed, I'm a communist. I want a world where there are no classes, no exploitation, no war or starvation, no money or banks, no state or governments, no annoying nationalist games, a world where progress is in the centre, not profit.


By your definition, you are an anarchist. A Communist would want government regulating the whole.



posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 05:15 PM
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Mudler here, no time to log in.
There is no government or state in communism. It's ruled trough small communes where everyone participates. Socialism has a state regulating the economy (though it is really run by the workers themselves and the state is serving the people not the other way around), and socialism isn't neccesarily bad at all if it features direct democracy (some people seem to think the two are incompatible for some reason), free speech, and checks and balances preventing tyrants from gaining control. Socialists want a society like this. Nevermind the Stalinsist retards, they are just trolling for the most part. There are many reasons things went wrong in the socialist countries as the USSR, Stalin and his ideas was one of them. The Marxist-Leninist theory says that the state (in socialism) should eventually dissappear thus creating communism, and that the power should lie with the workers, the majority, during socialism as well. However this theory has been aboused a LOT by psuedo-socialist fascists. Anarcho-Communsits want to skip the socialism and move straight into communism. Both would work for me, I see the first one as more probable though.



posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 05:27 PM
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There is no state in communism, it is run trough communes where everyone participates. Socialism has a state running the economy but the state is run by the workers who are the ones really running the economy. Socialism would be great with direct democracy, free speech and a system preventing tyrants from gaining power. These are not incompatible with socialism as some people seem to think. Socialism =/= dictatorship. The state would eventually fade away and there you have communism. Anarcho-Communism skips the socialist stage and move right into communism. Either way is all right, I prefer the second but the first is more probable today.
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