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No one writes a 1100 page bill that fast. No one reads it. And passing it late on a Friday afternoon .... Suspect anything that happens too fast, and on a Friday afternoon after the week's news cycle is over. Maybe something good will happen and you can run that instead and then the media won't ever have to read it either - maybe the Pilot on the Hudson will get caught smoking out of a bong if the elite are lucky. Who knows?
Originally posted by disgustedbyhumanity
Wow. Everyone bashes the bill and I would bet my last dollar that most of you have no idea what is in it either. I have read the entire thing and i really don't have a problem with anything they are doing. Just about every part of it will create jobs.
Stimulus bill text
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
I guess I would be proud, if I lived in say, San Fransisco and cared about spending $30mil on saving the marsh's harvest mice.
But since I don't live there, I can't see how that will help me out.
But hey, I still get my $13 extra per paycheck!! Yippee!! Yay Stimulus!!
Turns out, there isn't a penny in the bill for mice. A Republican staffer claims someone at an unnamed agency said $30 million might go to federal wetlands restoration. Since San Francisco Bay has wetlands and some are home to an endangered species called the salt marsh harvest mouse, he naturally concluded, "The bottom line is, if this bill becomes law, taxpayers will spend 30 million on the mouse."
We're receiving E-mails from Capitol Hill staffers expressing frustration that they can't get a copy of the stimulus bill agreed to last night at a price of $789 billion. What's more, staffers are complaining about who does have a copy: K Street lobbyists. E-mails one key Democratic staffer: "K Street has the bill, or chunks of it, already, and the congressional offices don't. So, the Hill is getting calls from the press (because it's leaking out) asking us to confirm or talk about what we know—but we can't do that because we haven't seen the bill. Anyway, peeps up here are sort of a combo of confused and like, 'Is this really happening?'" Reporters pressing for details, meanwhile, are getting different numbers from different offices, especially when seeking the details of specific programs.
Worse, there seem to be several different versions of what was agreed upon, with some officials circulating older versions of the package that seems to still be developing. Leadership aides said that it will work out later today and promised that lawmakers will get time to review the bill before Friday's vote.
Originally posted by aquiesce
Maybe, the Republicans had their rude awakening and might do a little better in the future.
Originally posted by mental modulator
Originally posted by aquiesce
reply to post by mental modulator
It wasn't a third, it was 20%. So, how does a tax cut not benefit anyone?
I, personally love when the government stays out of my pocket.
NOT from what I have read... Well in this case there is a $500.00 per $1,000 for couple for low to middle income TAX PAYING Americans - There has been a sizable slash in the (AMT), A special claus for small business that allows for five year long deduction as opposed to two...
Jesus, though last two tax items are thing conservative were calling for during the election.
There is a five hundred dollar increase to P grants, which will help AMERICA compete (IMO).
There is about 50 billion for states suffering from an influx of unemployed.
Anyways, there is nothing wrong with tax cuts IMO unless they target the top 1%
as was the case in 2001.
ALL and all I think some of you are going on hype, not reading. As I have said before, f this is a clear case of plenty of business to be had but little capital to invest and buy.
In that case the money supply NEEDS to increase,,, so unless all off you are going to invest half a trillion dollars soon??? Or end both wars abruptly? Or default on paid for unemployment and COBRA? DEFAULT SS checks?
What is your solution? Give billionaires tax cuts that will only be hoarded in such a crap economy?
Or give the money to new work and laidoff out sourced AMERICANS?
I think we all know there is not much hoarding going on in house holds across AMERICA.
AH and money all ways flow one way, out the bottom and DIRECTLY to the top.
DID you pay your mortgage? PHONE bill?Cell phone bill? Insurance? WE will.
Originally posted by donwhite
Reading and understanding are not the same. Reading that X number of dollars goes to this or that project is not being informed unless you know the project and etc. i repeat that being critical is OK but not that they did not READ the bill. I am sure (without knowing) many of the 38,000 employees of the Congress read the bill.
I marvel how so many who made no challenge to Newt or Dennis but who now feign worry over Nancy. Maybe it's because she is patently smarter then the first two?
Originally posted by greeneyedleo
Ive said it before, I will say it again: WHO keeps voting these worthless people back into these positions? And Obama is their pet. They keep him on a leash and tell him to sit or roll over and he does. Then they put him up on a pedestal and say: awwww look, hes awesome, hes the best - here is his blue ribbon!
There is a reason I did not vote for Obama. He has no backbone. No balls. He has zero capability of running this country and obviously he doesn't have the best interest of us little people on his mind.
Originally posted by yadboy
My problem with this situation is the fact that Pellosi and her cohorts edited the bill by themselves late Wednesday and did not make the text of their changes available till 11:00 PM Thursday, 10 hours before the vote.