I guess I would be proud, if I lived in say, San Fransisco and cared about spending $30mil on saving the marsh's harvest mice.

But since I don't live there, I can't see how that will help me out.

But hey, I still get my $13 extra per paycheck!! Yippee!! Yay Stimulus!!

They did the same crap with the Patriot Act. Not a single one of them had read the bill in it's entirety, yet voted almost unanimously for it. They're all useless in my opinion..

Same thing happened with the TARP bill. Original bill was shot down when it was only a couple of pages long. They then offered a massive document and your Reps passed it in a day or two.

These guys are too busy to read a bill like that. They have a break coming up next week, they need to plan for their time off.

Yeah, 1100 pages of a new bill that is named "Emergency Bill", nothing new Obama delivers, he likes to bamboozle the american public just like all politicians.
I gotta give him credit, though. All the liberal spending he had planned on bringing in over the next four years got done within 30 days of him coming into office. Just give it a threatening name and make it impossible to disect.

Things need to change and it won't happen with this string puppet.

Maybe, the Republicans had their rude awakening and might do a little better in the future.

Excellent points, you raise a good question, and not to sound naive, but could we have until 11:00pm last night even if we wanted to?

I am just as exhausted by the dog and pony show as anyone, can you link us where to find it now? Perhaps we can begin to dissect it properly.

Your title made me feel guilty...

Not to mention Pelosi had to hurry and jump on a jet to freakin Europe. She can't miss her flight on her taxpayer paid JET.

I stated this in another thread, and I'll state it here as well.

HOW IN ANY REASONING CAN ANYONE THINK THIS WAS OK?

HOW?

Someone tell me. ANYONE. Tell me what justifies this.

I want it now. Who approves of this garbage?

Give me some answers. What justifies the passage of a bill without READING IT?

tell me!

geez, 1100 pages??? no wonder nobody read the thing, lol. in all seriousness though, we are in serious trouble here....they can only prop everything up for so long, i wish they would just let it all fall already so that we can give the government a major overhaul. our system of credit right now is ridiculous, was bound to implode from the beginning.
on a completely different note, if any veteran ATS'rs can U2U me i have a quick question and i'm not getting an answer in the questions forum, it would be helpful and thank you

I'm still reserving judgement on obama, but this seems to me exactly the kind of thing that I would have railed bush about.

The evidence so far seems to say that he is little better than dubya - just wrapped up in different paper.

I'll wait and see some more .......

That's why I said I reserve judgement.

I'm across the pond, so whatever he does affects me - even though I wish it didn't.

I found it telling that, in his statement in the floor debate, Mr. Dave Obey (D-WI), Chairman of the Appropriations Committee said this:

“The worst thing that people can do in this town is to believe their own baloney. And I think what the likelihood is on this bill is that supporters of the bill are inclined to overstate its possibilities and opponents, as we see here today, are certainly inclined to trash it. I was criticized in the Rules Committee last night, and again on the Floor today, because I frankly said I do not know how many jobs this bill is likely to produce. What I do know is that the consensus of economists around the country is that this bill will save or create several million jobs. Exactly how many will be determined by history.”

I included the whole paragraph to keep it in context but the part I found hilarious was the bolded part.

Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
-P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian

There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword, the other is by debt."
- John Adams

No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.
-Mark Twain (1866 )

Ive said it before, I will say it again: WHO keeps voting these worthless people back into these positions? And Obama is their pet. They keep him on a leash and tell him to sit or roll over and he does. Then they put him up on a pedestal and say: awwww look, hes awesome, hes the best - here is his blue ribbon!

There is a reason I did not vote for Obama. He has no backbone. No balls. He has zero capability of running this country and obviously he doesn't have the best interest of us little people on his mind.

How on this Earth could our President Obama think that most of the crap in that bill is good for us? Did he read any of it? Does he even care? There is NOTHING in that bill that will have any bearing on me or anyone I know. But I bet it will help out all the friends of those who signed it! Lucky them!!