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posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 04:08 AM
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Originally posted by LeoVirgo

To me, what I learned, was the chakras are real...but we are not to focus on them as being our way to 'connect'. They are the activation, yes...but to connect without a invasion, I feel, you need to stay grounded to your higher self, which is always with you and ground yourself to the Universe...which will also protect you. Become aware of the Universe, She becomes aware of you....the unconditional connection is then open and there will be no interference as long as you are approaching the ONE for humble truthful reasons. Its hard for many to be truthful to themselves of why the want to connect or open chakras.

In meditation I viewed them...the vision went from the red vibration through a few other colors, and I felt the need to not observe that no more....IDk, just my experience.

LV


Yes you are very right in what you say. When I first opened my chakras with the total innocence of just wanting to connect, I saw them in their true colours of light. I saw a white orb closely followed by a violet one and a green one. The colours were wonderful and I just watched them in silence. Looking back it was such an innocent and truthful moment, since then many false lights and energies have come through my chakras. I would love to return to that day when I initially opened them and saw their beauty.
Im sure I will , all I need to do is want the truth and use my intent to allow it back in. As you say allow the unconditional connection to remain open.

Thank you for your post, I enjoyed reading it, it has awoken me to the simple truths I have become distant from in recent months.




posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 07:31 AM
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*smiles* Good Morning MR Green,

Something else I discovered, for myself anyways...was that I dont think I was ready for all the chakras to be opened. I know many say how to open them all, through cycles of certain awareness ect...but they do open on a natural cycle of our own awareness of self to the non self, with time and the way we perceive all around us, and ultimately, seeing all as ONE. I dont talk much about Chakras, but I feel that the cosmos can be a direct connection for us, to us, to align ourselves with the ONE, through the connection of the Universe. Following the stars, being aware of the times of dark moon and knowing when the sun moves through a sign has done wonders for me, staying grounded.

This is all IMPO, so all is for each to their own really. Just sharing what has worked for me.

There is a time of dark moon coming in between some great movements of the sun and planet transitions....March 20-27th I do believe can be a time of healing possibly. Ive described dark moons as times of 'downloads' and cleansing also on another forum that I talk more freely about this stuff.

My best,
LV



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by LeoVirgo
*smiles* Good Morning MR Green,

Something else I discovered, for myself anyways...was that I dont think I was ready for all the chakras to be opened. I know many say how to open them all, through cycles of certain awareness ect...but they do open on a natural cycle of our own awareness of self to the non self, with time and the way we perceive all around us, and ultimately, seeing all as ONE.

There is a time of dark moon coming in between some great movements of the sun and planet transitions....March 20-27th I do believe can be a time of healing possibly. Ive described dark moons as times of 'downloads' and cleansing also on another forum that I talk more freely about this stuff.

My best,
LV


hello LV

yes I think that is true, very true that some of us arn't prepared for what comes with the opening of the chakras. Thing is once they open they are open for good and there is no going back.

The stars, moon and planets positions is not something Im that familiar with but I read with interest your point about the 20th to 27th being a time of possible healing and downloads. I know what you mean by the term "downloads" but I didnt write the dates down, I will pay attention to the dates between 20th and 27th , they may turn out to be interesting. I always assumed it was up to us to heal ourselves in our own way, by connecting to our higher self and to the one source. It has never occured to me there may be better times to achieve this than others.

Thanks again for your very positive addition to this thread.

Ms green



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 09:05 AM
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As always, each to their own, but I will elaborate why Im looking forward to these dates.

First, I find the path of the sun to be the most ancient way humans connected as well as the stars. It helps bring us into harmony with oneness....and what many dont realize, the Universe is VERY aware of our own awareness of her. The water, the Earth, the wind, the fire (sun) are all direct ways to connect and meditate with being ONE. We are just as much a part of the water, fire and Earth and wind as we are the dust of the stars.

Being aware of the seasons, and how the sun ushers them in has always been celebrated by the ancients and soon the ones who didnt understand how this wisdom worked, banned it, killed for it, burned texts that spoke of it ect ect....religious holidays reflect these times of the suns path throughout history....but they still dont understand why, because the knowledge of it is always suppressed as pagan worship ect ect...

Im not into astrology, but yet, when we synchronize ourselves, with the movements of the luminary spheres, our celestial lights, we are connecting to our ONENESS in a cosmic sense. The 20th of March is the spring equinox, which is the point where the sun is ascending in its path, making its way to the summer solstice in June, which will be its highest point of ascension. The spring equinox is the point the sun reaches its harmonizing node with the Earths equator. This is a great day to renew, for it is the for signs of the beginning of a zodiacal new year. I personal, treat it as such, I even do some fasting from meats and just general reconnecting. March 25 or 26th, depending on where one lives, will be the time of the dark moon. The reasons its important to observe the dark moon and new moon is that the new moon (thin crescent) can not be predicted always....many ancients knew the dark moon could last 1 half days to 3 half days...so the new yr. for me, really starts when the first thin crescent is seen, which may be the 27th or 28th. On top of the spring equinox, and the new moon ushering in about a week later, gives the perfect setup to regroup, focus, and cleanse. Venus is also going to be with the sun while the new moon is being observed, and on the 27th, Venus will be 8 degrees above the sun, while the moon is also, in between the sun and Earth....so you have the three brightest objects in the sky (even though the moon will be dark) all lined together, ushering in the first day of the zodiacal new yr (which is unique)....they will all be in Pisces together on the 27th. Venus, went retrograde March 6 and is retrograde until April 17....if you figure our the middle of the retrograde, it is while Venus is 8 degrees over the sun, on the 27th. MANY sites, if you look this all up, will tell you all of this is happening in Aries, because they use the tropical zodiac. It is wrong, and misleads so many. I have a thread about this that I put up the other day, mentioning much of what I have discussed here....so it happens to be heavy on my mind....please excuse the rambles. The sidereal zodiac can help bring someone into sync, with the cosmos and their true place.

Ill still learning many things, but deep phenomenal experiences have came since I started last yr observing the new moon for the new yr and every month. The time of dark moon, like I said, seems very pure. When Venus in retrograde goes over the sun.....she will go from being a evening star to a morning star. This again, reflects religious beliefs...which I think when wrote about, were not understood for their true purpose.

The place I started was the big dipper because it was easy to find and helps point you to the North Star. This gave me my directions in the night sky to help me keep watch. Orion is easy to find right now....the belt of Orion points to Sirius, the dog star that goes back in so many religions and beliefs.

If none of this resonates with you...no worries, some things work for some and other things dont. Just take what feels right with you, always. I began the observing of the new yr and new moon last yr and it was the most craziest yr I have ever had. I had time slips, and felt like I was carrying my voice to the heavens many times. It was the most wild ride last yr for me, so I figure if it worked so well last yr, I will do it again this yr.

Just thoughts, always
LV

[edit on 16-3-2009 by LeoVirgo]

[edit on 16-3-2009 by LeoVirgo]



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 09:45 AM
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I've been attacked at various times throughout my life. Have naturally been open to other peoples thoughts and feelings. I first experienced this as a child when I would meditate before sleeping, see light visions, and hear thoughts that clearly weren't my own. Since then, it's been a bunch of ups and downs dealing with the energies surrounding me.

What I've learned is that if you are inclined to being spiritual, you must commit, 100%. Whatever step you feel the need to take, do it! If you don't progress, tension then fear will build. This leads to the psychic vampirism.

Personally I learned the very hard way. I was preyed on nonstop for the last few years. The problem was my inability to commit to my path. I was given the heads up, exactly what to do, and I faltered. Listen to your guides!!

Now I've succeeded in integrating this step recently. I became chaste celibate a few weeks ago, and the negative thought processes are melting away. I'm much more grounded and blissful, with increasing energy levels as the days pass.

As far as I can tell, if you follow your path and listen to your guides, you'll remain safe. Just don't allow fear to gain a foothold. Realize there's a reason behind the tension. It's a split between your higher-self and your conscious actions/thoughts.

If I could choose one word that seems best at dissolving psychic attacks, it'd be integration



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by unityemissions


As far as I can tell, if you follow your path and listen to your guides, you'll remain safe. Just don't allow fear to gain a foothold. Realize there's a reason behind the tension. It's a split between your higher-self and your conscious actions/thoughts.

If I could choose one word that seems best at dissolving psychic attacks, it'd be integration


Your not the first to say this. That we actually cause ourselves to be attacked by our own actions, our inability to follow our guides, leaving us open to attack. The attacks could be caused by our own self causing a split between what we are doing and what our HS actually wants us to do. Attacks may be actually initiated from the higher realms to stop us doing what we are doing, to stop us going down the wrong path....maybe??? It is just another theory on where these attacks are initiated. The attacks I had recently definatly made me look at the path I was on, and I do believe I was on the wrong path most definatly so in a way those attacks worked didnt they!!

Do you mean integration between all realms??

[edit on 16-3-2009 by Mr Green]



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by Mr Green
The attacks I had recently definatly made me look at the path I was on, and I do believe I was on the wrong path most definatly so in a way those attacks worked didnt they!!


You may very well have turned from the path you were on by yourself, wouldn't you have? I mean, you don't seem like a bad person to me, were you really on a bad path? The future is unset.

I've been told this so many times and it seems to me an excuse for someone who thinks they know more than you to control your life in a way that seems right to them. That's one thing that's consistant in spiritual teachings(the good ones), that negatives always try to control and possitives will only teach and guide you after you make mistakes or point out mistakes someone else made to show you what not to do. The reason negatives try to control you is because they want you to depend on them, so they might block you from something and then point it out to you, they ALWAYS point it out and want gratitude for their help. This is wrong, and makes us lazy, makes us depend on them and not our inner strength/knowledge/wisdom.
Just another perspective.



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 04:09 PM
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You could say it like that, integration of all realms. I meant it more an integration of psyche. Between your higher-self, conscience, superego however you say it, and your ego, conscious self. The more interaction between the two, the more they become integrated over time.

The third part of the psyche from this Freudian view is that of the id, or unconscious desires. Hopefully, if we integrate the self with the Self, ego with superego, we detach from our unconscious desires, and viewing them from outside, become conscious of these desires, gaining control of them.

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Words of wisdom! This is very true!!



posted on Mar, 17 2009 @ 06:17 PM
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The reason negatives try to control you is because they want you to depend on them, so they might block you from something and then point it out to you, they ALWAYS point it out and want gratitude for their help. This is wrong, and makes us lazy, makes us depend on them and not our inner strength/knowledge/wisdom.
Just another perspective.


I could not agree more


We should not take the easy path because in the end its often not that easy. Dependancy on another for spiritual wisdom is an unhelpfull place to be. It may seem harder to go it alone but in the end it is the best route.

You sound like you have much experience of the negatives influences and you have obviously over come them.



posted on Mar, 17 2009 @ 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by Mr Green
We should not take the easy path because in the end its often not that easy. Dependancy on another for spiritual wisdom is an unhelpfull place to be. It may seem harder to go it alone but in the end it is the best route.

You sound like you have much experience of the negatives influences and you have obviously over come them.

Yes, and you too.

I'm glad I was able to figure it out, with such a huge source of information at my fingertips(the internet). I believe everyone runs into this sort of thing at some point in their life, explains why religions grew so huge across the world, people looking for answers. I hope we always have freedom of thought and uncensured internet, to be able to find actual answers, and not some dragon's labyrinth of lies.



posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by mmariebored

I'm glad I was able to figure it out, with such a huge source of information at my fingertips(the internet). I believe everyone runs into this sort of thing at some point in their life, explains why religions grew so huge across the world, people looking for answers. I hope we always have freedom of thought and uncensured internet, to be able to find actual answers, and not some dragon's labyrinth of lies.


Thing is with the internet there is SO much out there on absolutely everything. This is why its important to follow our instincts to show us what is correct and what is not.

The internet is good for connecting, but its also opened up the gates for lots of false information about virtually anything. I read some sites and I think how on earth can you know that??? You know these sites that list 101 alien races, where they live and what their ships look like. How? How can someone know all that information and post it up as truth? they just cant. Then there is the history of said races and the galactic wars they have been in and how they became fallen. Yes lots of info about lots of things.

When I read something now, I think now is that true, does that sound true, could it be true? If I get a definate NO then it probably isnt true. I just think we are all very similar at heart, and I cant see how any of us knows for certain what happenned 200,000 years ago in some galactic war that led to fallen spirits that now haunt us today???

I think those that astrally abuse us are a lot closer to home than fallen aliens of years gone by. Saying that I still love the internet.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 11:58 AM
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I know I for one love my magic porn box & the net-y goodness it brings
Especially considering it's the vessel that allowed me to meet you fine people. And despite all of the garbage, the few pieces of pertinent true info one can find on the net is well worth the effort. Especially considering it is what is doing miracles to unwind all of the conspiracies.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by Shakesbeer
And despite all of the garbage, the few pieces of pertinent true info one can find on the net is well worth the effort. Especially considering it is what is doing miracles to unwind all of the conspiracies.


yes thats why I continue with the internet/ATS and other forums because hidden some where in the middle of it is the truth. Plus I can think of no better way of getting to the truth than talking to experiencers such as yourself and others on ATS.



posted on Apr, 12 2009 @ 07:22 AM
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At first I expressed unconditional love for all entites thinking this was enough to protect myself, I was wrong all it did was open me up to abuse. Yes love all unconditionally but protect yourself from those that do not return your unconditional love with the same.


I've just found this thread. Thanks so much. I messed myself up a fair bit making the same mistakes. I've got a lot of clearing to do. Going into the higher realms expecting everything to help you is like walking into a city centre at night and saying to passers by "Hey everybody, I've got 100 dollars, I need help and enlightenment, who can help me? Can anyone help?"

I used to think banishing/clearing was an irritating formality, but that's so stupid it's untrue. If you do it right you will feel great after,- fresh and clear- Fears + minor health issues may well drop away overnight.

Steve Gamble, in his "Shopping for spirit articles" explains a lot of things about the lower astral, he says Jesus talked about it in code fairly often.





[edit on 14f20090amSun, 12 Apr 2009 07:23:59 -050059 by HiAliens]



posted on Apr, 12 2009 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by HiAliens
I've just found this thread. Thanks so much. I messed myself up a fair bit making the same mistakes. I've got a lot of clearing to do.


Yes its so easy to get messed up with all this and make big mistakes. However what I have found is if we remain true to ourselves the higher / lower realms although quite daunting are very forgiving and send help when it is needed. If we stumble into trouble or are led their against our will all seems to right itself and balance is restored. Its another matter if we go in with intent to cause upset or harm, then the higher/lower realms are not so forgiving.

I guess what Im saying is its all about INTENT.


[edit on 12-4-2009 by Mr Green]



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 05:28 PM
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We have 7 main chakras which are the root, sacral, solar plexus, heart, throat, brow and crown. -

say you are in a psychic battle. that's lasted for a year. every single day it goes on, it kind of takes over a persons life.

say the person, who used to be a very strong individual and is now a shell, empty, drained, can't remember things that happened a few years ago, ca'nt focus, isn't anchored, has a hole in his chest, has a pressure on his head...can't sleep...was misdiagnosed with mental illness, has since realized the true cause of all of this...

what if this individual just wants OUT. wants this battle to end. realizes that what's lost is lost, admits defeat and just wants the war to END. he has better things to do with his life than worry about this thing every single waking minute.

how do you get OUT of a psychic battle?



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 10:21 PM
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By surrendering to God.

May you find peace in God. No one else can bring it but the creator.

Godspeed, LGM

[edit on 13-4-2009 by LoneGunMan]



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 10:51 PM
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Realize that you are only fighting yourself.

I don't mean that in a rhetorical way, I mean that in a very real & grounded way. It's an easy statement that carries a lot of substance & truth. Find how this "thing" reflects yourself, and correct it in whatever manner you are able to. Changing the holographic fractal of yourself, within yourself, changes it everywhere in the universe. Change it in the right way, and you just phased out of your attack.



posted on Apr, 14 2009 @ 04:23 AM
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What if you put into this mix individuals from years back ,hundereds of years back even.
For example a person had been tortured his eyes removed locked in a dark cell beaten everyday ,mentally stripped of humanity.then this said person was made to give false evidence which resulted in a loved one being tortured, even burnt..
Lets for example say this period was the Cathar inquisition in the 1200,
1300 century, Pope innocent was on the papal throne His representatives
may have thought of themselves even called themselves "Defenders Of The Innocent""
Lets for example imagine that at this time Karma has to be cleared memories are being triggered due to persons becoming more aware.
Lets imagine players on different sides of the fence have conflicting agendas.Players on one side want closure and a balance.Players on the other side need continuity as the resulting karmic balance is going to be rather hard to endure.
This karmic theatre is possibly being played out Now in areas of the populace globally.
Sometimes its not just a sticky personal attachment it can go a lot deeper
it probably just adds to the sticky spiritual mess
I think that if a person does not address a situation correctly then the attachment moves from being sticky to becoming baked on ,hardened.
When a person finds himself confronted with deep medieval karmic nightmares to untwist that person goes on the offensive which is wrong.
As the person fights he feeds the energy and makes it stronger.
The person becomes weaker and embattled.
Gradually knowledge and help from others allows a route to the problem.
The players on the other side know that if the game is played out and the karmic energies meet then their must be balance.
Lots of dirty tricks ensue people are innocently dragged into the battle/game.
The amazing thing is how whatever the passage of time events are played out and then played out again untill lessons are learned and balance is restored.
I should copywrite this post it would be a good story for a book or film.
Anyway the point I make is this We all at some point have very deep personal spiritual attachments to degrease which is hard in its own right.
If you add to this menu ancient wrongdoings then the plot thickens.
I will state that this is all hypothetical and I give it no energy as I do not want to feed a negative karma which is fighting its rebalance.



posted on Apr, 14 2009 @ 05:31 AM
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Everything happens for a reason, the Universe makes no mistakes, it is we who choose our own paths and our own mistakes.

As we open our chakras we open our Gates to the infinate love and guidance of our creator. The creator loves us unconditionally and will always work to return our spirit to the one no matter what we do.

Earth is a free will planet, as we open our Gates we become our own Gatekeepers. Free will allows us to let in all , it also allows us to shut off what is not for us, we creat our own madness, our own psychic battles and our own karmic debt.

I believe karmic battles are being played out that are eons old. We now sense their extreme importance as in this time of total awarness all means something, all is important on every level. Prior to return all karmic debt must be repayed.

Yes these battles are intense, they seem as they have been sent to destroy you but realize this they have been sent to restore you, to balance you at your very source.

These battles seem to rip you of your self, your life force, your heart, your soul they turn you into a shell of your former self. This is all necessary for what you are being stripped of is not you at all, what you are being shown is your true self, your being, the part of you that is divine that is god.

Total surrender to God/ Being/ Source (it has many names but is just one) is the answer to our escape from these karmic/psychic battles we now find our selves in. Forget the life dramas, the constant ego, the past, the future all are an illusion. Total surrender and acceptance of God within your very NOW will set us free from these constant karmic battle we keep fighting.

Try not to judge the things that happen in your life. Instead of judging, accept it. By totally accepting it you enter a conscious alignment with the higher source. The human mind finds it impossible to work out our seemingly endless and random events we constantly find ourselves in. I have tryed to analyse my year long battle and I find I can not, it goes too deep , its from a source I just cant understand. I have accepted it is NOT a random set of events because the source is not random, all it sends is for a reason.

" The atoms that make up your body were once forged inside stars, and the causes of even the smallest event are virtually infinate and connected with the whole in incomprehensible ways. If you wanted to trace back the cause of any event, you would have to go back all the way to the beginning of creation.

The cosmos is not chaotic. The very word cosmos means order .This is not an order the human mind can ever comprehend, although it can sometimes glimpse it." - Eckhart Tolle

So what he is saying here is all happens for a reason, all is order and all we need to do is surrender totally to it, dont fight it, dont resist it for in the end we are just resisting ourselves.

Gnithi Seauton - Know Thyself

I have surrendered to God, I place total trust and love in Gods plan for me. I no longer look to the past for answers or the future for projected guidance. My awakened soul lives in the Now, where else can it live, all I have is my now. I leave all karmic battles behind, I have no war with anyone any more, I forgive and I hope you will forgive me. When I say no one I truely mean no one.

There are no winners or loosers in these battles, no one is to blame, no one has made a wrong move because in the end whether we realize it or not we will all be reunited in total awarness within the one source. The human ascension has begun, many are here to help us and they will not stop until the very last one of us is shown the way. Do not think you have been forgotten or have become lost, you are not lost or forgotten you are just wandering as we all are, wandering until we reach home.

[edit on 14-4-2009 by Mr Green]





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