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Originally posted by Komodo
reply to post by questioningall
yea, something is a miss. Here's why, and someone that is a pilot can correct me to the 'T" if they'd like. So, don't flame, just the details.
FIRST off, the pilot will be in contract with the tower. IF he/she(they), might see an issue, they can 'usually' radio the tower on conditions outside and the reactions of the plane IF they can NOT stay on the vector they are given BY the tower. Being that it's a turbo, it will probably mean it's instrumented, meaning, they don't have to 'litterly' see outside to fly; because they have instruments to nav by.
SECOND. If they were at 16,000ft, yes, it will be cold, but, as stated above, they should have been in contact with the tower because of the vector they had. They could have dropped 5k and gotten out of it IMO.
THIRD. Prop's don't just 'nose dive' when they are out of power, they will still have some lift to them and continue to glide a ways, I think a stnd prop can glide for couple miles before it will no long be able to gain lift, in which the pilot should be in contact with the tower for a place to land; just because the engine quits doesn't mean no contact with tower. There's still a radio.
FOURTH. Maintance records and a must to fly. PM's must be recorded and logged per FAA rules.
so yea, something doesn't add up .. does it. That's a starting point and you can go from there.
Liscensed Pilot's, feel free to correct me
Originally posted by Spaxz
I doubt ice build up was the main culprit, as the plane would have been de-iced before departure. Even if that was forgotten, the non-response of the pilots is very odd.
A full list of the victims of Continental Connection Flight 3407's deadly crash has not been released, but airline officials, relatives and friends are identifying some of them.
Perhaps best known was Beverly Eckert of Stamford, Connecticut. Her husband died in the World Trade Center on 9/11 and she became an activist for victims' families.
They also include one of the world's leading experts on genocide in Rwanda. Alison Des Forges was a senior adviser for Human Rights Watch's Africa division. She was on her way home from a trip to Europe, where she briefed diplomats on the current situation in the region.
Coleman Mellett and Gerry Niewood were members of jazz musician Chuck Mangione's band. Mellett was a guitarist and Niewood played saxophone.
Maddy Loftus of Parsippany, N.J., was headed for a reunion with her former teammates on the Buffalo State women's ice hockey team. Loftus' father is a Continental pilot. Source
Originally posted by KnowMore
The reason they did not have transcripts of the flight that went into the Hudson was because JFK does not record ATC for some reason. So they did not get the transcript till the voice data recorder was recovered.
I've chosen to go to court rather than accept a payoff from the 9/11 victims compensation fund. Instead, I want to know what went so wrong with our intelligence and security systems that a band of religious fanatics was able to turn four U.S passenger jets into an enemy force, attack our cities and kill 3,000 civilians with terrifying ease.
I want to know why two 110-story skyscrapers collapsed in less than two hours and why escape and rescue options were so limited. I am suing because unlike other investigative avenues, including congressional hearings and the 9/11 commission, my lawsuit requires all testimony be given under oath and fully uses powers to compel evidence.
The victims fund was not created in a spirit of compassion. Rather, it was a tacit acknowledgement by Congress that it tampered with our civil justice system in an unprecedented way. Lawmakers capped the liability of the airlines at the behest of lobbyists who descended on Washington while the Sept. 11 fires still smoldered.
Originally posted by McJean
There also saying that Airlines companies from U.S.A, Japen Australien, Scandinavian, Austria and Canada have had trouble with this plane the last 6 years and the most common errors is something with the landingwheels, nearly all forced landing the last 5-6 years have been trouble with landingwheels.
Twice it have landed without wheels unfolding
Hope you could use the information, and personal i can tell that i would never take a dashplane would rather cross the ocean on a surfingboard.