Continental Crash 3407 - A Conspiracy? - 9/11 Widow - met w/ Obama Dead onboard, page 4
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reply posted on 13-2-2009 @ 02:53 PM by Anonymous ATS
2 Birds with 1 Stone folks- seems as simple as that.

If you think they would have "knocked off" this Eckart person a long time ago, then you in fact have no idea how deception works. Which is why you arent and never will be in such a position to carry out any kind of covert operation such as this.

The NWO or illuminati, if they exist, love to shove things in our faces, right out in the open. So they put the 9/11 activist into a doomed plane. Silence her after meeting with Obama. Makes sense to me.

Now, dont forget what is going to get passed today or soon. The new nearly TRILLION dollar "stimulus" or "bailout" or whatever you want to call it. So many people had high hopes about Obama. I never did, but as soon as he tried to push that package down our throats, I knew I was right all along, and Obama is not anything more than the same people who have been in charge.

Guess what the news will be covered with for the weekend? The plane crash. They might talk a little bit about a former 9/11 activist being on the plane, but highly unlikely. What this will really serve to do, is take the economic problems off of the minds of the less informed people out there.

BTW I live in a place where 30mph wind is child's play, light snow is also not a very big deal.

They didnt even have time to say MAYDAY! or "we're having turbulence and/or landing problems"

A true patriot downed, a field day for the press on the weekend at which a measure which will surely destroy our economy even more is passed. If you dont see a conspiracy here I suggest you find a new forum.


reply posted on 13-2-2009 @ 03:03 PM by computerwiz32
reply to post by Chadwickus



WOW.... I GUESS YOU NEVER KNOW ABOUT COVERUPS???

hmmm.... They are going to recover the block box no matter what. The truth will be given to the right GOV agencies.

The CIA can call these agencies to not give that information to the public.

They will give them a line to say to the public. They would do this in secrecy and give them those basic threats they can't tell anyone or else.

If you had the brains you will figure out that this crash is fishy. I mean if it was true she talked with the president a week before this happend it makes the whole thing fishy.

Why a week after the talk with obama??

did she have the legit information about 9/11?


It is just too fishy that this ends up happening. I mean if she died randomly and didn't talk to the gov for a while then I would say ok it's a accident.

Yet on the news they said it was a new airplane a year old. Which means it was still in good condition.

I am just saying it's very fishy on how this accident came about.

Now for you to say we are just waiting for such an Event is really stupid.

we don't wait for these events to unfold so we can drum up a conspiracy.

We are talking about the event. We are trying to find the truth of such an event.

how you act is that we should follow and accept what the GOV and the media tells us.


It's just like giving us advice that to figure out if someone is going to rob you. Go flat out to the person and yell " ARE YOU GOING TO ROB ME TONIGHT????!!!! " Then the guy says no. while he has a mask on and is heading to your house... he then saw your door open walks in and starts to steal.

YOu ask again " What are you doing in my house??? are you stealing my stuff??"

He says" No I just want to make sure all your stuff is here cause I hear someone is in the area trying to rob people" You would go " oh ok thanks... Hey I should give you a tip here is 50 bucks"

this is what your like telling us. We should accept what the media says. If we say oh the GOV was in on it.

You expect the media to tell us americans oh the gov is in on it.

If they said that they would be the first to get their butts fried.

I mean we are just looking at the facts what is handed to U.S

We are just saying this is fishy. We are waiting for more information about this.

We then judge for ourselves. We don't let others make our decisions and our judgment.


So go ahead and keep your eyes closed and keep on saying in your dream land. .


reply posted on 13-2-2009 @ 03:14 PM by Komodo
reply to post by questioningall



yea, something is a miss. Here's why, and someone that is a pilot can correct me to the 'T" if they'd like. So, don't flame, just the details.

FIRST off, the pilot will be in contract with the tower. IF he/she(they), might see an issue, they can 'usually' radio the tower on conditions outside and the reactions of the plane IF they can NOT stay on the vector they are given BY the tower. Being that it's a turbo, it will probably mean it's instrumented, meaning, they don't have to 'litterly' see outside to fly; because they have instruments to nav by.

SECOND. If they were at 16,000ft, yes, it will be cold, but, as stated above, they should have been in contact with the tower because of the vector they had. They could have dropped 5k and gotten out of it IMO.

THIRD. Prop's don't just 'nose dive' when they are out of power, they will still have some lift to them and continue to glide a ways, I think a stnd prop can glide for couple miles before it will no long be able to gain lift, in which the pilot should be in contact with the tower for a place to land; just because the engine quits doesn't mean no contact with tower. There's still a radio.

FOURTH. Maintance records and a must to fly. PM's must be recorded and logged per FAA rules.


so yea, something doesn't add up .. does it. That's a starting point and you can go from there.

Liscensed Pilot's, feel free to correct me



reply posted on 13-2-2009 @ 03:15 PM by McJean
Hi from Denmark - just want to give u some tecnical facts about this plane.

We talk about a airplane dash-8 Q400. The plane is produce by Bombardier LTD - have 72 seats and speed max. 660 km i a hour.

Its a very good plane in cold weather and a lot of contries with a lot of snow have bougth this plane or the other dash-8 3oo plane.

I will translate a danish new-site with information about this plane to anyone interesting, so you maybe consider next time you gonna fly if this is the plane for your destination and if you maybe should cancel

It all began 9 sept. 2007: A Dash-8 have to make a forced landing in aalborg denmark - the plane so destoyed that it could never fly again - 5 people was "wounded" but no one seriously.

10 sept.: a dash-8 take off from Copenhagen to prague but most return to copenhagen again and the passenger take another dash-8 plane to praque but most again return to copenhagen with technical problems

12 sept: A dash-8 from Scandinavianairlines most make a forced landing in Litauen again because of the same problem as in aalborg(city).

21 sept: A dash-8 own by Ausburgs Airway have to make a forced landing in Münich because nosewheel not unfolding.

10 okt: A dash-8 on its way to Gdansk(Polland) most return to copenhagen because of nosetrouble

11 okt: A dash-8 from Berlin to Stockholm most return to Berlin because of engineproblems.

12okt: Again a dashplane most return this time to Warszawa with landing-whells problem.

19 okt: And again in copenhagen a forced landing because a door(to nose-wheel) not was closed, and a lot of lred ligth in cockpit.

27 okt:And again in copenhagen a dashplane was making a forced landing and the rigth side of landingwheels collapsing, and again very lucky no one "wounded".

22 now: Stavanger Norway a forced landing with a dash-8

2008 feb: A forced landing in Wien Austrian airline have also dash-8plane it seems like

29 sept: a forced landing in a little airport south of Oslo on its way to Denmark

21 okt: Two dash-8 most make a forced landing in Toronto Airport without and hour


16 now: a forced landing in Philadelphia dash-300 also problems with "nose"

And the last one you all know, so when we heard about it in news a lot of people was saying ohh!!! a dashplane.......what did i say

There also saying that Airlines companies from U.S.A, Japen Australien, Scandinavian, Austria and Canada have had trouble with this plane the last 6 years and the most common errors is something with the landingwheels, nearly all forced landing the last 5-6 years have been trouble with landingwheels.

Twice it have landed without wheels unfolding

Hope you could use the information, and personal i can tell that i would never take a dashplane would rather cross the ocean on a surfingboard.


reply posted on 13-2-2009 @ 03:21 PM by questioningall
reply to post by Komodo




Thank you for that information. The report says the plane literally went into a nose dive straight down into that one house.

I was thinking, too, even with ice there would be some gliding and the pilot being able to radio. One sec she was on the radio, next sec.. nothing.


reply posted on 13-2-2009 @ 03:41 PM by questioningall
reply to post by darkelf



Really? Are they going to release those tapes like they did right away of the controllers tapes.

Sorry, when I hear it, then I may believe that, but again, as it was pointed out... there would have been some sort of gliding - not straight down nose dive.


reply posted on 13-2-2009 @ 03:44 PM by j2000
Originally posted by questioningall
reply to
post by Komodo




Thank you for that information. The report says the plane literally went into a nose dive straight down into that one house.

I was thinking, too, even with ice there would be some gliding and the pilot being able to radio. One sec she was on the radio, next sec.. nothing.



I can say with certainty that if the wings iced up, it will not glide. It will just drop like a rock. I have been an aerospace engineer for a long time and just got done working for "said" company.


This was just a bad deal. I feel for the families.

FYI - I stopped flying about 9 years ago. Aircraft companies are more about profit then doing the best they can do. Most maintanence programs are a joke.


reply posted on 13-2-2009 @ 03:45 PM by j2000
Originally posted by questioningall
reply to
post by darkelf



Really? Are they going to release those tapes like they did right away of the controllers tapes.

Sorry, when I hear it, then I may believe that, but again, as it was pointed out... there would have been some sort of gliding - not straight down nose dive.


I am sure they will, they alread played them on air.


reply posted on 13-2-2009 @ 03:46 PM by questioningall
reply to post by Jay-in-AR



YES - AP is correct -

How PERFECT - the news will ONLY focus on the crash - not the stimulus package!!

They especially won't remind people - it wasn't suppose to be voted on until after 48 hours on the net - BROKEN PROMISE!

NOW - I really DO BELIEVE - they KILLED = two birds with one stone!



reply posted on 13-2-2009 @ 04:21 PM by darkelf
Originally posted by questioningall
reply to
post by darkelf



Really? Are they going to release those tapes like they did right away of the controllers tapes.

Sorry, when I hear it, then I may believe that, but again, as it was pointed out... there would have been some sort of gliding - not straight down nose dive.


Not necessarily, at that low of an altitude and at their speed a severe pitch and roll would have caused them to auger in. Add in the ice effect (which is probably what caused them to lose control) and you have a recipe for disaster. I am only an aircraft mechanic and electrician, not an engineer, but I understand how they work. Severe ice on the leading edges and the windshield is bad enough but if their controls iced over they didn't have a chance.
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