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Originally posted by John bull 1
It's early morning here in the UK and I'll be honest I haven't got the stomache to answer your bigotted reply with a reasonable response.
This will not make the Middle East,Israeli's,Americans,or anybody safe.
This is reward for an aggressive expansionist policy.
Originally posted by harap.alb
You should think though that for many simple "Palestinian" Arabs what matters most is that they have been forced to move from were some were living for hundreds of years, without a right of return. From their point of view they have been deceived by the world powers (mainly the British) who promissed they will stay were they were as independent states after the Ottoman Rule and even now when they barely have any territories left they lose them gradually to Jewish settlements.
Originally posted by aware
It is hard to stomach the zionist bs this early in the morning isnt it?
Im baffled by them, the zionists. Do they honestly believe the recent agreement is fair and just?
Originally posted by Mycroft
Originally posted by aware
It is hard to stomach the zionist bs this early in the morning isnt it?
Im baffled by them, the zionists. Do they honestly believe the recent agreement is fair and just?
When every attempt at a bilateral agreement is torpedoed by Arafat or Hamas, I don�t think it�s rational to condemn a unilateral solution. If they want to negotiate a better deal, then they need to reign in the bombers and come to the table.
Originally posted by harap.alb
Just as they were sometimes "torpedoed" by the construction, just before talks, of new Jewish settlements.
Originally posted by Mycroft
Originally posted by harap.alb
Just as they were sometimes "torpedoed" by the construction, just before talks, of new Jewish settlements.
Of course, Israel is expected to live up to agreements before they are made, while the Palestinian-Arabs are not expected to live up to agreements after they are made.
Originally posted by harap.alb
Which is the "civilized" side? Which is the democracy, the organized state that can lead by example?
The truth is that there was always harldy any genuine good will on either side.
Address to the Nation on United States Policy for Peace in the Middle East
September 1, 1982
My fellow Americans:
Today has been a day that should make us proud. It marked the end of the
successful evacuation of PLO from Beirut, Lebanon. This peaceful step could
never have been taken without the good offices of the United States and
especially the truly heroic work of a great American diplomat, Ambassador
Philip Habib.
....
When our administration assumed office in January of 1981, I decided that
the general framework for our Middle East policy should follow the broad
guidelines laid down by my predecessors.
....
The time has come for a new realism on the part of all the peoples of the
Middle East. The State of Israel is an accomplished fact; it deserves
unchallenged legitimacy within the community of nations. But Israel's
legitimacy has thus far been recognized by too few countries and has been
denied by every Arab State except Egypt. Israel exists; it has a right to
exist in peace behind secure and defensible borders; and it has a right to
demand of its neighbors that they recognize those facts.
I have personally followed and supported Israel's heroic struggle for
survival, ever since the founding of the State of Israel 34 years ago. In
the pre-1967 borders Israel was barely 10 miles wide at its narrowest point.
The bulk of Israel's population lived within artillery range of hostile Arab
armies. I am not about to ask Israel to live that way again.
Originally posted by dom
Leveller, the point is that the Israelis in the West Bank have built there homes on occupied territory recieved during a war. No-one would say that the Germans should keep bits of Poland because during WW2 they built houses on it.
as quoted by John Bull 1
The crux of the problem was that Israel was created in the first place without consultation or agreement