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Originally posted by Wehali
Do you people really think, that a gun will do you any good when Martial
Law is put in place? The military has fully automatic assault rifles, flash
bangs and all kind of other grenades, many of them lethal.. fighter jets,
bomber planes, artillery, rocket launchers, missile pods, war helicopters,
the monstrous Active Denial System that is able to cook people from
half a mile away to death, 'dragon scale' vests, kevlar protection and
who knows what other kinds of terrible weaponry.
Do you really think that you will even be able to kill a single soldier when
they storm into your house, the way they have been doing in the Middle
East? They are trained to destroy civilians, you will never stand a chance
to resist by force. People like Ghandi have showed us how to overthrow
an evil empire without any force, learn from him and use his techniques.
[edit on (12/2/09) by Wehali]
Originally posted by bigdog36
reply to post by Retseh
What's illegal about protecting my property from illegal confiscation by force?
So then you are telling me that if agents come to your house, violate your rights, explicitly defy state law, you are going to hand over your firearms and do the fetal position in the corner?
We'll that's your decision. NOT MINE
"Do you strengthen the borders so people cannot get in by the thousands every day, or do you create detention centers where people are held until their status is determined?" asked state Sen. Dan Patrick. "This is a potential refugee problem..."
Originally posted by gaslaugh123
Well its coming down to a civil war. Miss is not the only state "Fed" up with this bull# central gov. we call a gov of the people. Hah and up your a** you dead beat elected pieces of total aboslute sh**. Over my dead body and I know their are many others ready and willing to make a final stand. Life is no longer sweet as we are facing lies and deceit in very high places. No chiping my skinny a** and you ain't going to take my 9 mil without me first sharing my amo with you lieing bastards.
Originally posted by spinkyboo
It's just a really good sign that states and people - are taking responsibility for protecting themselves as much as possible - against the agenda/s that might be brewing by those who may not have our best interests at heart.
Originally posted by djvexd
They will use thier usual tactic and claim federal law trumps state law.
Originally posted by bamaoutlaw
its just a law passed to let everyone drop their guard thinking the state gov. is behind them. but the law clearly says if the state cannot handle the emergency the feds will step in and do what they want to who they want, trumping all state laws. however its good to see mississippi passing a law giving us a heads up on what is coming.
Originally posted by Wehali
Originally posted by tyranny22
You have to put these numbers into context. I'll wager that we have a lot less per capita than many countries.
. The times that a person ever gets to
defend himself with a gun against a home invader, is so tiny that it is less
than a weak argument.
[edit on (12/2/09) by Wehali]
Originally posted by Boston Tea Party
In california they can seize your guns for any reason and you have to go to court and the burden is on you to explain why you should get your gun back. If it turns out there was absolutely no reason for them to take your gun, you get it back. But that is it there is no recourse and no apoligy and they can turn around and take it again the next day.
I hate this state so much.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Does that apply only to state government declared disasters and martial law or to federally declared? So if the governor ordered the state national guard to confiscate arms they would be in violation but what if the order came from the federal level?
War with the fed and the state?
And what's a "peace officer"?
Originally posted by Byrd
Read the full amendment.
It says the governor can declare martial law and define the rules about who can do what.
So what do we have here but a reaffirmation that your guns can be taken under a loosely defined "threat to others"?
`(aa) Firearm Licensing Requirement-
`(1) IN GENERAL- It shall be unlawful for any person other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to possess a qualifying firearm on or after the applicable date, unless that person has been issued a firearm license--
`(A) under title I of Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009, which license has not been invalidated or revoked under that title; or
`(B) pursuant to a State firearm licensing and record of sale system certified under section 602 of Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009, which license has not been invalidated or revoked under State law.
`(2) APPLICABLE DATE- In this subsection, the term `applicable date' means--
`(A) with respect to a qualifying firearm that is acquired by the person before the date of the enactment of Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009, 2 years after such date of enactment; and
`(B) with respect to a qualifying firearm that is acquired by the person on or after the date of the enactment of Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009, 1 year after such date of enactment.'.
SEC. 102. APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS.
(a) In General- In order to be issued a firearm license under this title, an individual shall submit to the Attorney General (in accordance with the regulations promulgated under subsection (b)) an application, which shall include--
(1) a current, passport-sized photograph of the applicant that provides a clear, accurate likeness of the applicant;
(2) the name, address, and date and place of birth of the applicant;
(3) any other name that the applicant has ever used or by which the applicant has ever been known;
(4) a clear thumb print of the applicant, which shall be made when, and in the presence of the entity to whom, the application is submitted;
(5) with respect to each category of person prohibited by Federal law, or by the law of the State of residence of the applicant, from obtaining a firearm, a statement that the individual is not a person prohibited from obtaining a firearm;
(6) a certification by the applicant that the applicant will keep any firearm owned by the applicant safely stored and out of the possession of persons who have not attained 18 years of age;
(7) a certificate attesting to the completion at the time of application of a written firearms examination, which shall test the knowledge and ability of the applicant regarding--
(A) the safe storage of firearms, particularly in the vicinity of persons who have not attained 18 years of age;
(B) the safe handling of firearms;
(C) the use of firearms in the home and the risks associated with such use;
(D) the legal responsibilities of firearms owners, including Federal, State, and local laws relating to requirements for the possession and storage of firearms, and relating to reporting requirements with respect to firearms; and
(E) any other subjects, as the Attorney General determines to be appropriate;
(8) an authorization by the applicant to release to the Attorney General or an authorized representative of the Attorney General any mental health records pertaining to the applicant;
(9) the date on which the application was submitted; and
(10) the signature of the applicant.
(b) Regulations Governing Submission- The Attorney General shall promulgate regulations specifying procedures for the submission of applications to the Attorney General under this section, which regulations shall--
(1) provide for submission of the application through a licensed dealer or an office or agency of the Federal Government designated by the Attorney General;
(2) require the applicant to provide a valid identification document (as defined in section 1028(d)(2) of title 18, United States Code) of the applicant, containing a photograph of the applicant, to the licensed dealer or to the office or agency of the Federal Government, as applicable, at the time of submission of the application to that dealer, office, or agency; and
(3) require that a completed application be forwarded to the Attorney General not later than 48 hours after the application is submitted to the licensed dealer or office or agency of the Federal Government, as applicable.