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How hard to find SSBN

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posted on Jun, 7 2004 @ 02:17 PM
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Thanks for that. I have watched various programmes showing how it was raised and a possible reason it sunk.




posted on Jun, 7 2004 @ 02:42 PM
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I suggest people saying what sub is more stealthy to back it up with documented facts and actual data comparisons, before posting baseless egomania crap filled rhetoric...

"Designed to be world's quietest submarine, Seawolf is reportedly less detectable at high speed than a Los Angeles-class submarine is while sitting at the pier. The Seawolf's propulsion system makes it ten times more quiet over its full range of operating speeds than the Improved-688 class and 70 times more quiet than the initial generation of Los Angeles 688-class submarines."

www.navalships.org...
www.globalsecurity.org...




posted on Jun, 7 2004 @ 05:08 PM
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the kilo class would be better against a seawolf cause the seawolf be found faster
evidence here kilo info



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
the kilo class would be better against a seawolf cause the seawolf be found faster
evidence here kilo info


No, the seawolf has a better sonar system and would find the Kilo first. The problem is that it would be at a close range by the time they could track it.



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 11:19 AM
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umm what if it went on to electric and went under 8 knots?



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
umm what if it went on to electric and went under 8 knots?


They could still be tracked by the various machinery noises that subs make when they operate on battery.

People seem to think that when they switch to batteries they stop making noise, that is just not the case. While they make less noise, they can still be tracked by it.



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 11:27 AM
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yeah i suppose but a nuclear sub makes much more noise than the electric



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
yeah i suppose but a nuclear sub makes much more noise than the electric


Right, and do you know why that is?

Do you know why SSBN's radiate less noise than SSN's?



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by COOL HAND

Originally posted by devilwasp
oh really then exsplain y ur subs dorsal fins have not changed positions in the entire us navys lifetime when u know that having dorsal fins directly at the bow of the craft increases the ability of the craft to turn ?
oh and just thought id mention we do have the best trained men using them so ha


Devil,
What are you basing your facts on?

US Submariners are the most well trained ones in the world. If you saw the training that they went through you would agree.

Also, the US Navy has the highest operating budget in the world and that equals time at sea to practice.


take it u have never heard of the perisher course ?
perisher course
if u seen our trainging ud be just as impressed
oh wow u have the biggest budget , this does not mean u have the best crews or captains just that u have lots of money



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by COOL HAND

Originally posted by devilwasp
yeah i suppose but a nuclear sub makes much more noise than the electric


Right, and do you know why that is?

Do you know why SSBN's radiate less noise than SSN's?

yes because a nuclear reactor requires cooling and the coolent needs to be pumped which creates noise

a diesel sub would only require the sound of the pistons being fired and varios gers and such beiong turned . but if it went to battery then all they would hear is the gears and such



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 02:10 PM
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Didn't COOLHAND ask the difference between SSNs and SSBNs which are both nuclear and not the difference between nuclear and diesel submarine noise?



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 02:20 PM
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Quietest of all is the new all electric drive shaft

An electric motor drives the shaft directly, thus no need for gearing etc. just add alternative motor to charge the batteries.

Th US is investing heavily in this technology for its surface vessels,



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 02:56 PM
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Problem is you still need the power, which currently has to come from a reactor or diesel engien.
Also I must say that round hole does look very suspicious, any ideas on what it could be if not U.S. testing?



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by Hyperen
Didn't COOLHAND ask the difference between SSNs and SSBNs which are both nuclear and not the difference between nuclear and diesel submarine noise?

yes we have gotten carrier away
wouldnt the ssbn's have quieter gear to make them the stealthiest as so to acomplih thier missions better ?



posted on Jun, 9 2004 @ 12:31 PM
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All new submarines should get the quietest gear unless it costs loads more than the standard.



posted on Jun, 9 2004 @ 12:54 PM
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they do but boomers should get more



posted on Jun, 9 2004 @ 09:17 PM
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The difference in radiated sound from a 688 class SSN, and a 726 class SSBN, is all in the way that we sound mount noisy machinery, and the fact that SSBN's have something called natural circulation, which means that we don't use pumps to keep the reactor cool. But, to compensate for the way that we keep quit, the 688-I have better sound mounts on there pumps, making them almost as quite as us. On a side note, we just recently completed a TRE against a 688 class boat. We rocked their world, hitting them 4 out of 3 times with our torpedoes. They didn't know where we were until they told us make noise. Have fun y'all.



posted on Jun, 9 2004 @ 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by COOL HAND
Russian ones are easy to find, so are the Chinese.

Then the French
Then the UK
Finally the US

Good luck finding a US SSBN.



you wan to know the mottos of the US SSBN fleet?


"We hide with pride"

or

"Chicken of the sea"



posted on Jun, 9 2004 @ 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
the kilo class would be better against a seawolf cause the seawolf be found faster
evidence here kilo info



thats cause its a desile! desiles are hella quiet!



posted on Jun, 12 2004 @ 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by devilwasp
they do but boomers should get more


What is a boomer?







 
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