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Medical Mystery Is Killing My Friend's Son. Doctor's Have No Answers!

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posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by mhinsey
You could try oregano oil supplements. It is an antiseptic NATURAL oil that may cause a funky burp taste but no worse side effects after extensive online research. It helped my staph infection and e.coli stomach infection.


I just got some oregano oil. How do you take it?
Add it to water?
I also take grapefruit seed extract - good for eliminating fungus in the system.
A couple of drop a night with water - and also a couple of drops in a salt sinus cleanse.




posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by spinkyboo

Originally posted by mhinsey
You could try oregano oil supplements. It is an antiseptic NATURAL oil that may cause a funky burp taste but no worse side effects after extensive online research. It helped my staph infection and e.coli stomach infection.


I just got some oregano oil. How do you take it?
Add it to water?
I also take grapefruit seed extract - good for eliminating fungus in the system.
A couple of drop a night with water - and also a couple of drops in a salt sinus cleanse.


I get it in capsule gel form. That way I don't have to figure out the dosage and I really cannot stand the taste... blehh. Don't really like it even in Italian food. I find it at any health store or online health store. Sorry don't know the dosage for liquid form. But it does work and it really helps keep sickness at bay. I didn't even get a cold/flu running that was running the rounds my office and I ALWAYS get it but had just started the oregano the month before sick gunk started running around office. I was basically the only one who didn't get sick in a large room of people.

Also, I am taking CoQ10 which has really helped blood pressure, sugar levels and breathing issues. I am taking about 400 mg of pill form but looking at the liquid form (ubiqinone) which is supposed to be more potent. I got disgusted with stupid cardiologist and GP who wouldn't listen to me about the issues having with BP/heart meds. All issues are easing off and BEST OF ALL. No nasty side effects. I researched any side effects and weaned myself off the bp/heart meds slowly to confirm any issues. The less dose of BP/heart meds and more of CoQ10 the better I feel. Just an FYI. I think CoQ10 is a miracle natural drug (as it is produced in our own bodies if they are working right).

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posted on Mar, 5 2009 @ 01:26 AM
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I can't believe I never saw this before...

HE HAS TO LEAVE
they can't bring him home, his immune system is attacking his body and he is constantly being re exposed from what I am reading

I knew this was Black Mold from the first PP you wrote... because I have been through this before, myself, it's a nightmare...

He has to leave the environment entirely

what inevitably worked for me after MONTHS of Suffering and Thousands in medical bills was this

Extreme calorie restriction and Dry sauna...

I started with a Sweat Tent ritual... and continued with Dry saunas EVERY DAY for a long time after

The only ones that can fix this are Natives... I know that sounds like BS, but it WORKED, they have dealt with the Molds and Fungi and Bacterium of this continent for thousands of years

The doctors are pikers in dealing with this sort of thing

First and foremost though, the exposure has to stop, Obviously his immune system is attacking his own body... he's already lost to much weight but he is being re exposed again and again

Step ONE he has to go... if he doesn't he will die, there IS no Treating the house ... you'd have to treat a thousand acres around the property, The HOUSE is DONE for this Family... the insanity of sending him home by the doctors requires immediate law suit as well

There is NO OTHER answer

There is nothing in modern medicine that will address this... If there is, I'd love my money back, because I went through this and they had NADA, all the medicines did was tox me out worse

PLEASE

do not let that child go back there, he Must go north preferably Canada where he will be relieved of all of this ... In time his body will heal

The calorie restriction will help by not feeding his immune system... The saunas will purge him of toxins

This is

A: GET OUT

B: Calorie restrict...

C: purge, massive fluid intake, water only and sweat

I'm lucky to be alive from the damn Black Mold

and the House being new means NOTHING

If the local leaves were infected with it, so is the house the dang day after it was built...

I won't rant about the housing industry here and now,... other than to say, dry wall is crap and so is very method of building houses today so they can rape a profit, if the Mold is local it Jumped to the house already, done deal, they just lost a House and it's NOT worth a child... better alive in the street than dead in a Home.

Please, do not let them return the child to the location, all exposure HAS to end at once

I'm working with a guy right now who has suffered from Mold induced Autism his whole life and got instant relief the minute he left this city, in his case here in Phx it is Valley fever that is the culprit, but none the less... the same thing and this guy suffered his WHOLE LIFE

He will NEVER get entirely better neither will the other child....

he might not be suffering from his lungs any more, nor be severe of the mind, but it's still THERE and he is being hurt a little every day

The HOUSE HAS TO BE GIVEN UP

It might be a decade before you see it in the walls, but it's there and even the smallest amount will get to him

Worse... Black Mold may be indicated, but there are so many...so, so many types, unknown types... that they could never figure it out or test your house 100%


The children are your canaries in the Coal mine in this case, they don't need tests...they need to treat this as if it's the Amityville Horror and RUN..don't walk RUN from that property

I am being deadly serious...and I never am...

If the child isn't removed and brought North he is going to die

It's the only answer... PLEASE TELL THEM TO RUN FROM THE AREA NOW



posted on Mar, 5 2009 @ 02:03 AM
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Originally posted by mopusvindictus
A: GET OUT

B: Calorie restrict...

C: purge, massive fluid intake, water only and sweat


Are you a doctor?

You want to put him on a starvation diet when he's so sick and has already lost an extreme amount of weight? Because it's "feeding his immune system"?

This isn't the place for jokes. You should edit that sort of thing out of the previous post because it's just dangerous and disgusting. You can kill someone if they were silly or desperate enough to trust you.



posted on Mar, 5 2009 @ 04:12 AM
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I agree with Johnmike.... and consequently, I am a doctor. Starvation does not work for individuals that are losing weight and are sick. Starving yourself simply restricts the body from accessing the nutrients it needs to produce the immune response and fight the infection. Even when we suppress the immune system in certain cases (autoimmune diseases), we still provide nutrients to the body.

I do agree that Coleman should not go back to the residence, but I believe that the OP already stated that the family has moved.

That's the reason I post here. Restrict certain processed foods and throw-away calories... absolutely. Try some supplements... of course, as long as they do no harm. Starve a critically ill child.... NO WAY. Not only is this irresponsible advice, but it could potentially cause the death of this child if followed.






posted on Mar, 5 2009 @ 05:59 AM
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I have done the research and your point doesn't hold up much. This case is very rare. And it's believed to have to do with a protein filled solution, big silver particles and huge OVERDOSES. Millions have used CS without this side effect.

To the OP I would recommend giving them MesoSilver asap (1-4 Tbs./day). It's hands down the best and purest CS on the market. But please don't be ignorant and look this up yourself. There are special labs that make these reports for these commercial products. And they publish all the results online. MesoSilver crushed all of them in terms of quality.

I'm very surprised why this has been mentioned only very briefly and not yet used extensively. The price of this is nothing compared to all the medical costs so far that did NOTHING. So please get the silver in their system already. I'll wait on your praise.



posted on Mar, 5 2009 @ 06:25 AM
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I wanted to re[pst a link in case you didn't view it for it was not working.

aappolicy.aappublications.org...;118/6/e1909

Also, in this guide (pdf),
oehc.uchc.edu...

read case #5 starting on page 24.

and again at page 35-end

Here's an exerpt found on page 96 PDF (B 6)in document

There are other reports suggesting that inhalation of mycotoxins can produce diseases other
than ODTS in humans. Both patients and clinicians have raised concerns regarding potential
neurotoxicity following exposure to molds. A case report suggested that neurotoxicity can also
occur after airborne exposure to mycotoxins; Gordon reported a 16-year-old farmhand with
encephalopathy consisting of progressive somnolence, slowness of thinking, and incapacitating
tremors after being exposed to these agents while removing moldy fodder from a silo (Gordon et
al. 1993). The literature that raises concerns regarding neurotoxicity is summarized by Baldo et al.
in an article where they present a study of neuropsychological performance of patients following
mold exposures (Baldo et al. 2002). An excellent review and carefully presented study, it demonstrates
the problems clinicians face when evaluating complaints of memory loss, difficulty concentrating,
or personality change in patients attributing their symptoms to mold exposure. The problems
include poorly defined exposures to mold, less-well-defined exposure to mycotoxins, lack of
a consistent pattern of deficits on neuropsychological testing that would begin to define a syndrome
of toxicity attributable to mold, and the presence of other morbidities, such as depression,
that can result in measurable impairment on neuropsychological tests. While clinical and epidemiologic
data remain elusive, case reports are worrisome, and the subject remains open to further
investigation. (Sudakin 1998, Sudakin 2003, Lees-Haley 2003).
Exposure to airborne aflatoxins in an industrial or farm setting has been associated with
cancers of the liver, intestine, and kidney in animals and humans (Hendry and Cole 1993). Occupational
exposure to AFB1 by inhalation has been associated with primary lung cancer (Kelly et
al. 1997).


You all, and especially Coleman are in my prayers.

The first link you may have to manually paste the semi-colon to the end after the word pediactrics
I don't know why it isn't allowing the full link to activate/

[edit on 5-3-2009 by imd12c4funn]

[edit on 5-3-2009 by imd12c4funn]

[edit on 5-3-2009 by imd12c4funn]



posted on Mar, 5 2009 @ 01:20 PM
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I really appreciate all the advice. Let's talk about silver for a minute. Yes, silver has many valuable healing and preventative properties, I would agree.
I personally take Colloidal Silver Hydrosol 10ppm made by Sovereign Silver,
occasionally.

Where Coleman is concerned, we have long passed the point of homeopathic
remedies. Grapefruit seed as well as quinine both work as anti-fungals. I don't know if I have communicated very well how grave his condition is.

Let me back up and state what I do know. When he saw Dr. Shumaker, the number one specialists in the country, they determined the type of toxic exposure that he had. I'm sure their are other toxins in his body. Only a couple of labs have come back, and we are still waiting for the results.

Here are the facts:

A full blown systemic fungal infection. The fungus is now acting like a parasite.

1. toxic for Aspergillus. Most likely inhalation and the infection is in the upper respiratory.

2.toxic for Chaetomium. A lethal strand of Black Mold. If left untreated will
cause certain death. when Chaetomium gets in your body, it attacks every
organ. Liver failure is almost always immanent. We know as evidenced by the lung CT that his lungs are bleeding, a condition called Hemosiderosis.
If you research what black mold does to the lungs, you will always see this
result.

3. MMP9 A toxic marker. Indicative of how toxic the blood is 85-335 are considered normal, his marker was 1,343!! MMp9 is also a toxin maker. In other words, his own body is now making the neurotoxin.

Chaetomium and Stachybotrys 2 lethal strands of black mold, break down into something called Tricothocenes. Tricothocenes are so deadly that they are considered Biological Weapons and were actually manufactured by the military. Just google "Yellow Rain". You will know exactly what I mean.

He is own an oral medical detox starting with the use of Cholesterol medicines. These drugs bind to the toxins and enter the intestines and instead of being re-absorbed by the body, they are passed through, in the waste. This is only a start. You have to consider that the toxin machine the
MMP9 is still producing the toxins.

The detox process is long and arduous. Consider, here is a child that is losing pounds daily, can barely keep anything in his stomach, is continuously nauseous, and these medications aggravate every one of his GI
symptoms.

He is weak, has mental confusion, tremors, blurred vision, 'muffled hearing,'
terrible headaches, and severe neurogenic pain along with many other symptoms.

His immune system was thrown into overdrive in the very beginning, when one of the DR.'s placed him on a long dose of steroids.

He has been in and out of the hospital and continually his parents are told the same thing. " Your son needs a psych eval". " We can't help him, so just take him home." NO KIDDING!!! I was with them during the last hospitalization and it was a nightmare! I had to throw a fit to get them to not make him wait in the "chairs" in the ER. For God's sake he had every indication of going into kidney failure!!! It got ugly!! They finally admitted him to pediatrics, just to discharge him the next day!!

I'm trying to show you how critical the situation is, and the FACT that the doctors don't know how to help him.

We are in process of getting him into a Bio-Detox Center, where one of the treatments will be Infrared Sauna treatments. He will be in heavy, heavy detox for a very long time. The fungus is so massive and growing so rapidly that anti-fungals won't touch this. The MMP9 must be broken down first.

Nutrition, supplements, exercise are all very important, but as you can see
this child's fight is for his very existence at this point.

How is he doing? The best I can say is he is holding his own. Good days, Bad days.

Thank you Everyone for your kind compassion and for being patient with me as I am not always able to update daily. I will do my best to keep you informed as more results come in.

Please keep praying, sending positive light and love to this precious little boy!

Pax



posted on Mar, 5 2009 @ 01:37 PM
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Sorry but I don't understand! CS has been proven VERY effectively for these type of cases. Yet you just made it sound like you don't need some silly "food supplement" at this late stage and that the doctors know what they are doing.

WHAT DO YOU LOSE BY TRYING! I can tell you the big IF's that will arise when things come to worse and the unbearable self blaming starts. Please try this out no matter what. You guys have already tried so much. Surely a mere 50$ more is nothing compared to the health of these children.

Here's the site with the lab reports of different products.

www.silver-colloids.com...

This is why I highly recommend MesoSilver in this extreme case, and maybe amp the recommended doses up a bit too. Since this is a US based company shipping happens fast. If you need the money I'll give it. Just try it please.



posted on Mar, 5 2009 @ 02:38 PM
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a list of conventional and other treatments.

mold-survivor.com...



posted on Mar, 5 2009 @ 03:43 PM
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give him a blood transfusion with his mothers or fathers blood, they have the antibodys and his blood is now poisoned, if he is on any treatments that will weaken his body, stop them.

good luck, my heart go's out to the family



posted on Mar, 5 2009 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by broli
WHAT DO YOU LOSE BY TRYING!


Everything.

When someone is that critically ill and you're giving them a treatment to save their life, NOTHING goes into the body without the doctor's knowledge and permission. You assume that the silver does nothing -- but it's an active chemical. How do you know it won't react with a treatment he's already being given?

I'm not sure if you know how near death this child is, but as Pax said, the time for trying things like colloidal silver was last November.

I know you believe whole-heartedly in the stuff... at the best it will do no better than giving him a sip of water. At the worst, it might cause vomiting or react toxically with whatever he's being given.

The doctor is (and should) be making the call. Sneaking in treatments without telling the doc is dangerous, and since Pax is a nurse, it's also unethical for her to do that.


[edit on 5-3-2009 by Byrd]



posted on Mar, 5 2009 @ 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by paxnatus
How is he doing? The best I can say is he is holding his own. Good days, Bad days.

Thank you Everyone for your kind compassion and for being patient with me as I am not always able to update daily. I will do my best to keep you informed as more results come in.

Please keep praying, sending positive light and love to this precious little boy!


While I for one appreciate the updates, they are far from the most important thing for you to do right now, and I'm sure that we all understand that. And I don't think anyone who has followed this story can forget it – I will be thinking of Coleman and his family regardless of updates.



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 05:29 AM
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When someone is that critically ill and you're giving them a treatment to save their life, NOTHING goes into the body without the doctor's knowledge and permission. You assume that the silver does nothing -- but it's an active chemical. How do you know it won't react with a treatment he's already being given?


You and the OT are giving too much trust in people that have no clue what they are doing. It has been 4 months and all the knowledgeable doctors did was give random and very toxic medication and hope for the best. Which apperently is very OK because they are doctors right?

CS has been proved so many times over and over to work. So far there has been no known toxic reactions what so ever with w/e combination you take it. In the current age of the internet it's so easy to look something for yourself up instead of trusting someone who'll probably just second guess from past cases that have no relevance to the current case at all. Please do the proper research read the lab reports read the forums with people's stories on CS. How can a doctor know all this if it wasn't given in his studies. But rather had to be researched in labs. Sorry but you need to research it way better than that.



I know you believe whole-heartedly in the stuff... at the best it will do no better than giving him a sip of water. At the worst, it might cause vomiting or react toxically with whatever he's being given.


At best?? Are you seriously kidding me. At best it will kill the pathogen and stop them from multiplying and causing more harm AT BEST. So they can at least be in peace and start planning what to do about the environment they live in.

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posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by paxnatus
Let me back up and state what I do know. When he saw Dr. Shumaker, the number one specialists in the country, they determined the type of toxic exposure that he had. I'm sure their are other toxins in his body. Only a couple of labs have come back, and we are still waiting for the results.

What happened to Shumaker?


Originally posted by paxnatus
A full blown systemic fungal infection. The fungus is now acting like a parasite.

1. toxic for Aspergillus. Most likely inhalation and the infection is in the upper respiratory.

2.toxic for Chaetomium. A lethal strand of Black Mold. If left untreated will
cause certain death. when Chaetomium gets in your body, it attacks every
organ. Liver failure is almost always immanent. We know as evidenced by the lung CT that his lungs are bleeding, a condition called Hemosiderosis.
If you research what black mold does to the lungs, you will always see this
result.

3. MMP9 A toxic marker. Indicative of how toxic the blood is 85-335 are considered normal, his marker was 1,343!! MMp9 is also a toxin maker. In other words, his own body is now making the neurotoxin.

If this is proven, why does he keep getting discharged and moved around?



Originally posted by paxnatus
We are in process of getting him into a Bio-Detox Center, where one of the treatments will be Infrared Sauna treatments. He will be in heavy, heavy detox for a very long time. The fungus is so massive and growing so rapidly that anti-fungals won't touch this. The MMP9 must be broken down first.

...An infrared sauna? Like at a spa? What's that supposed to do aside from making him sicker? This sounds a little...strange.



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by Johnmike

What happened to Shumaker?

If this is proven, why does he keep getting discharged and moved around?

...An infrared sauna? Like at a spa? What's that supposed to do aside from making him sicker? This sounds a little...strange.


Just a note if you're trying to Google information on any of this: it's Shoemaker, not Shumaker


Your second question strikes me as one of the most perplexing questions about this entire case.

About the infrared sauna: there is very little info in pubmed that I could find on treating this sort of condition, and most of what I found involving aspergillosis was specific to post-transplant patients.

But there is literature about using infrared sauna in the treatment of COPD and chronic heart failure so it actually doesn't seem that unlikely a treatment to me (I'm not a doctor though!). Also in treating chronic fatigue syndrome, which Dr. Shoemaker seems to feel may be a form of "sick building syndrome".



posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 04:05 PM
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Here's what I would give them. Germanium 132, 1-2 150 mg. caps daily. Propolis-B by ultralifeinc.com 3-6 tabs daily.
Here's a list of benefits of Germanium 132.
www.stopyeast.com...
The last cold I had, 1 cap of Germanium knocked it out in 2 hrs. It never came back. It is a true panacea. Propolis-B is a combination of bee propolis which is a natural antibiotic, and Freeze-dried Thymus , Spleen, and Lymph tissue. Oregano oil will kill fungus. You take 3 drops in distilled water to gargle then swallow. Yogurt is not made for medicinal purposes. Much better to take a good probiotic like NSI-Probiotic-15-35. www.vitacost.com...
You should search vrp.com, and www.vitacost.com..., for more info. on anti-fungals. Good Luck and keep us posted.

[edit on 7-3-2009 by Sargoth]

[edit on 7-3-2009 by Sargoth]



posted on Mar, 9 2009 @ 06:09 AM
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I just wanted to post this.... in the event that you consider silver therapy:

Silver Therapy


I think that it is important to note that internal organs can accumulate the metal, which can cause organ failure. Since Coleman may already have some organ damage, I would strongly suggest NOT using silver therapy on him (or anyone else.... that is my opinion).



posted on Mar, 9 2009 @ 03:47 PM
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Not true! I make it 5 gallons at a time and drink at least a quart a day, and have not / am not turning blue. If you do your research you will learn that the blue hue comes from extended topical application.



posted on Mar, 9 2009 @ 03:55 PM
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Gawd this sounds so much like what happened to me. Check for a fungal infection in the blood stream and lungs! They don't test for it unless you ask! If they refuse call UC Stanford and ask for help. They can put you in touch with doctors in the area that are in their registry.




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