I was very sorry to read of your recent illness, psd_1, and trust that you regain your health and strength quickly. I’m sure our observers and judges
will join with me in sending you our collective best wishes for a speedy recovery.
Well, Sir, your illness has not affected your wit nor intelligence one jot!! I fine riposte indeed. Psd_1, I salute you!
You infer that the concept of Internet-scale distributed computing, as exampled by SETI@home, is an interesting concept but then you seem to doubt the
integrity, validity and provenance of the data as distributed by SETI@home? Furthermore, you then state that any results obtained from the “so
called” analysis - and are subsequently published - are, in fact, “inventions” or constructs? Serious charges, as falsification of results within
research establishments, universities and academia, throws great mistrust into any work that is conducted by those establishments.
Let’s have a look at some facts
, rather than hyperbole, to see if we can find any credence for your POV psd_1?
Bodies involved with SETI@home.
University of California Berkeley
– established around 1866 - Berkeley ranks first nationally in the number of graduate programs in the top 10
in their fields. (97% of Berkeley's programs made the top 10 list.) Berkeley ranks first nationally in the number of "distinguished" programs for
the scholarship of the faculty [32 programs] (Source National Research Council
). This august body is where SETI@home “lives” and where the data
is distributed from and subsequently returned to.
Arecibo radio telescope
– the world’s largest radio telescope, opened on 1st November 1963, and operated by Cornell University which was
founded in 1865 by Ezra Cornell and Andrew Dickson White.
- The Planetary Society was founded in 1980 by Carl Sagan, Bruce Murray, and Louis Friedman to encourage the exploration of
our solar system and the search for extraterrestrial life.
Psd_1, it may, indeed, be possible that these organisations are deceiving the public – if it was *proved* to be the case that there was falsification
occurring, their reputations wouldn’t be damaged at all, would they?
(at April 19th 13:58:18 2004 UTC)
Total Users = 4 964 637
Results received = 1 344 402 287 Work units
Total CPU time = 1 894 676.117 years
Floating point operations = 4.827354e+21 (that is a BIG number!)
Average CPU time per work unit = 12 hr 20 min 43.9 sec
Now, what seems the more likely explanation of where this data was obtained psd_1 - from the radio telescope, as Berkeley claims, or from somebody
contriving the data?
The mere fact that these “best signal” candidates can be observed by any other radio telescope in the world seems to rule out deception, IMO?
Let’s move on a little psd_1. You state:
“My belief is that the masses need some positive reinforcement.”
Now, I’m intrigued by this concept you have for “masses”? I presume (and you’ll be quick to correct me, I’m sure, if I’m wrong!!) that you mean
Look critically, please, at the data I provided above: namely, there are approximately 5 million
people in the world who run SETI@home. Now,
let’s assume the world’s population is approximately 6 500 000 000
. So, we are talking about 0.077%
of the entire world – if these are
“the masses” you refer to, my honourable friend psd_1, then I do not see how you can justify your claim? Your next statement will undoubtedly show me
the error of my thinking here!
If I’m really generous, based on the case above, and accept that perhaps even 20%
are “positively reinforced” by SETI@home, can you tell me WHY
running the program makes somebody incapable of also looking for other evidence of ET existence?
To recap psd_1:
1 Can you provide evidence
that Berkeley, Cornell, Arecibo or the Planetary Society have falsified data, as this would badly tarnish these
2 Please demonstrate
how 5 million people worldwide can receive sufficient data to keep them “crunching”, if this isn’t derived from the
Arecibo radio telescope?
3 Show how
this data (if false) – isn’t vilified, rather than verified - by other radio telescopes (that might chose to check up on the
results) over the past five years or so?
4 Please explain
your definition of “masses” – my own was based on the total world population – you might choose just the population of the
United States, of course?
5 I would be very interested in seeing how you demonstrate the “exclusive
” part of your thesis: namely, that you some how “give up” looking for
other evidence of ET once you “buy into” SETI@home
Once again, I wish you a full and speedy recovery to full and robust health psd_1. Back it comes to you Sir!!
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