Michael Moore is Asking for Help - with his next movie - Can you help?

Michael Moore is requesting help for his next movie, he is filming now...He needs people who work on Wall Street to talk to him. People that know the "real" situation that is going on.

link to request: www.dailykos.com...

All correspondence with me will be kept confidential. Your identity will be protected and you will decide to what extent you wish to participate in telling the greatest crime story ever told.

The important thing here is for you to step up as an American and do your duty of shedding some light on this financial collapse. A few good people have already come forward, which leads me to believe there are many more of you out there who know what's going on. Here's your chance to let your fellow citizens in on the truth.

So, again, if you work for a bank, a brokerage firm or an insurance company -- or if you have seen things or heard things that you believe the American people have a right to know -- please contact me at [email protected].

am in the middle of shooting my next movie and I am looking for a few brave people who work on Wall Street or in the financial industry to come forward and share with me what they know. Based on those who have already contacted me, I believe there are a number of you who know "the real deal" about the abuses that have been happening. You have information that the American people need to hear. I am humbly asking you for a moment of courage, to be a hero and help me expose the biggest swindle in American history.

Many of you, may immediately post derogatory comments about Michael Moore....... we don't need to hear those.

If you look at his previous films, he has tried to do what he could in exposing things.

So, if you can help him, if you have any inside info on this bailout and meltdown.... including Congress wanting to take the public pension plans and give the money in them to the banks!

Thread: www.abovetopsecret.com... - about Pension plans

email is above for Michael Moore

link to his website also: www.michaelmoore.com...

How can one not bash him given his hackish approach to "journalism".

He claims to be exposing the industry and revealing the truth, yet its blatant that its just going to turn into a liberal propaganda piece. For instance he uses phrases like "expose the biggest swindle in American history"... that sounds to me like a man who has clearly already made his mind up.

This isn't the investigative journalism that it pretends to be, its straight up propaganda. Not that its surprising of course...

The only people he is going to attract are fake whistleblowers, merely pretending to be Wall Street workers; or disaffected ex-employees who were fired by their firms. Nobody in the know is going to talk to him... but I suspect that works just fine for him. The truth is less important than the populistic message the advertising for the film will undoubtedly bear; the traces of which are evident in the language he uses in this correspondence.

What a twit

If you are truly interested in journalism rather than propaganda, find an online copy of Evan Davis' BBC series "The city uncovered"... an impartial analysis of the failings of the financial industry.

What part of "Many of you, may immediately post derogatory comments about Michael Moore....... we don't need to hear those. " did you NOT understand?


Love him or hate him - he's got the sack to ask questions that others aren't.

Originally posted by 44soulslayer
How can one not bash him given his hackish approach to "journalism"....
For instance he uses phrases like "expose the biggest swindle in American history"... that sounds to me like a man who has clearly already made his mind up.

Does the OP not say that he has already been contacted by people who are saying as much? That sounds to me like seeing if there is fire where one sees smoke. Not too bad an idea, I figure.

I don't like some of the stuff Moore has done, but trying to find the truth to this mess is something I can support. We can always use another perspective and this sounds like one that hasn't been presented.

Thanks for posting.

Originally posted by questioningall
Michael Moore is Asking for Help - with his next movie - Can you help?

Yep .. here's my help. I'm telling him to either stick to the facts without fabricating anything or don't bother making the movie. The F911 and Columbine movies were propaganda, full of lies, worthy of the Nazis.

reply to post by TXRabbit


We DO need to not only bash him, but also ignore him.

As I said he's a propagandist. Anyone who wishes to know more about the crisis should seek an impartial source (like Evan Davis).

The OP may have said "dont bash Moore"... but:

a. I'm not really going to limit my free speech

b. What was the point of this thread if not to discuss Moore's film? Was it a recruiting thread... because as we all know, those are against the rules.

Anyone who doesn't realize that Michael Moore is simply a partisan hack is kidding themselves.

It's like the liberal FOX news only on the big screen. (or straight to video).

honestly nobody cares that they are stealing money

thats what they do

they have no morals and no integrity

that's on them though

but, honestly, shelf this movie, I mean, where do you think that 700 billion dollars went?

to rich people's pockets

so, let's just move on...

Originally posted by 44soulslayer The OP may have said "dont bash Moore"... but:
a. I'm not really going to limit my free speech
b. What was the point of this thread if not to discuss Moore's film? Was it a recruiting thread... because as we all know, those are against the rules.

Well, once again, if you'd interrupt your diatribe long enough to read the OP, the point was, in fact to elicit help for this project...

So, if you can help him, if you have any inside info on this bailout and meltdown.... including Congress wanting to take the public pension plans and give the money in them to the banks!...

You are certainly entitled to your opinions, and your favourite sources, but you are derailing the thread, and the OP has rights to free speech as well.

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
the point was, in fact to elicit help for this project...

Then this thread should be closed, because that is a violation of the T&C.

reply to post by JohnnyCanuck


Amazing...

To try and save face you're condemning the OP.

As I'm sure you well know, activism and recruiting are not allowed.

So we can either debate Moore and his film, or close this thread.

Michael Moore doesn't really need help. He needs actors. He is quite capable of coming up with all the Mooreish fabrication needed to produce another one sided piece of propaganda.

Not saying anything derogatory - these are facts.

Look, if you think the thread violates T&C, report it. But that's not the topic of the thread.

I know Moore is partisan. But that doesn't make everything he says BS.

There are partisans in this thread and all over this board, but I listen to them anyway. Sometimes I learn something.

[edit on 11-2-2009 by Benevolent Heretic]

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I know Moore is partisan. But that doesn't make everything he says BS.

Nor does it make it correct.

There are many factual lies in his work, which amounts to nothing more than propaganda pieces.

People just need to own up to this and quit thinking he is doing real journalistic work.

I do not trust M. Moore. I think when he started out making his films he was sincere, but now he has gotten a taste of fortune and fame. Greed gets to most!

[edit on 2/11/2009 by PammyK]

Originally posted by 44soulslayer
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck

 

Amazing...
To try and save face you're condemning the OP.
As I'm sure you well know, activism and recruiting are not allowed.
So we can either debate Moore and his film, or close this thread.

Save face? Sure thing...
If the thread violates the T&C, then close it. If you want to debate Moore...once again...then go to the existing threads. I'm sure you'll find what you need.

reply to post by TXRabbit
I UNDERSTAND! But Moore will blame everything on Bush, and ignore the Democratic Congress that force spending bills (that is according to Arthur Laffer.)
Moore does nothing but promote liberal propaganda, trying to turn this country into the United Socialist States of America.

Originally posted by PammyKI think when he started out making his films he was sincere

The only thing I've ever thought was sincere about Moore was that he harbors some deep hatred for his own country.

He resents America for some reason. That's why I feel when I see or listen to him.

I realize there will be many who will automatically attack MM because of his style of bringing things to light that many other will not or simply do not have the nerve to do.

Here is how I have progressed on the MM front. At first I seriously hated the guy and his movies. Well, hate is a strong word because I don't really hate anyone. But I got very emotional when I would see anything praising the guy or his movies. Then he won the Emmy and I was like "What the....!"

I decided then, as I was in the middle of a transition in my thinking at that time, to watch all of his documentaries. I wanted to see what everyone was so vehemently against.

Here is what I found. Yes, he skews the point of view in his favor. Yes, there are points in each film where he presents things in a way that warrants no argument against even though there very well could be one. I understand that. I also understand that it is that way in EVERY SINGLE OTHER ARTICLE OR DOCUMENTARY you will find. Sure, you can come up with a very few that display true impartiality but it won't be on subjects such as the ones MM has attacked.

Now, here is where I try to defend his films. Although I do not agree with many of the 'facts' he presents in some of the documentaries I know that I have enough intelligence to weed through it. I can garner the message and see through the crap to understand that he is actually right on quite a few of his major points.

Here is what we see with his films now. Once he announces he is coming out with a new one we see mainly two types of people. The ones that fully believe him and his messages and support him and the ones that, just because the film says directed by Michael Moore, begin to bash and gnash and scream at the top of their lungs.

It's pretty sad really. Because no film should be taken as pure fact before it can be verified yet it should also be given a chance. There are very important messages in Columbine, F911 and Sicko. Very valid points that continue to be ignored by the powers that be and the people that find themselves above everything.

So, for those that want to already start the slam fest against this new film that will once again tackle a very serious problem (and yes, I happen to agree with him that it was one of the biggest swindles in American HISTORY) that most are afraid to TRULY delve into, I say give it a chance. Watch it first then pick it apart with facts if he presents falsities.

Because what I have grudgingly come to find is that many of the 'facts' that people have brought against his other films are simply figures and data that they got from the skewed sources leaning the opposite direction of Moore. That doesn't cut it for me.

If I worked on Wall Street and I knew what went on I would help this man out. Then again, I'm not crooked enough to put myself in that position in the first place. I could not morally see what was happening and stick around.

Also, if the people he does find just happened to have been fired it makes no difference. That is a pathetic argument to try and already start belittling the witnesses he will bring forward. They have a story to tell. They run the risk of being sued if they can't back it up or are flat out lying. So, if they don't get sued then you must make the assumption that what they bring forward is indeed what took place.

Open your minds a bit and you will be amazed what you will see. I'm still not a fan but I at least give props where they are due. He tackles issues that need to be attacked and brings them to light where no one else has the sack to do it.