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Originally posted by Frankidealist35
If I were a Brit I'd be starting gang warfare with the cops and teaching them not to tell me what I can or cannot do.
That's one of the penalties you get when you're in a nanny state like Britain I suppose.
Originally posted by budski
This was posted a couple of weeks ago and thoroughly debunked.
Read the legislation - it applies to people already under terrorist surveillance, and gives the police limited powers to view and copy material - NOT to arrest any photographer for taking a pic.
Originally posted by DermoYea, I had heard about that in Northern Ireland during the troubles. Its unlikely they would have gotten rid of that law at all... so why has it come back up recently?
Originally posted by Britguy
At any organised demonstration you'll see the Police intelligence units with the vans video taping the event and other police officers taking photos of those demonstrating. Now, under this new legislation, they can arrest a photographer for taking photos of the police, under anti-terrorism laws, and subsequently let them go again after spending a few hours in the cells and being fingerprinted and a DNA swab taken.
They don't actually have to prove you are a terrorism suspect to arrest you under ant- terrorism laws, something which has already seen widespread abuse by the police.
Now then, what if someone sees a police officer or officers acting unlawfully or heavy handedly and fils it or takes photos? Yep, they'll find themselves arrested and any images taken will probably disappear from the camera before it is returned.
I understand that in the shooting of the young man in Oakland by the BART officer, one of the first things the police did was round up anyone at the scene who had taken photos or video and none of that has seen the light of day. The only images or video that did get out was taken by people who got out of there before the police started confiscating cameras and cell phones, as evidence of course.
As a keen photographer I'll continue carrying my cameras as I always do and photograph whatever the hell I like in a public place. This is one thing I just will not back down on.
The Human Rights Act protects the following rights from the European Convention of Human Rights:
Article 2 - the right to life
Article 3 - the right not to be tortured or inhumanly or degradingly treated or punished
Article 4 - the right not to be required to perform forced labour
Article 5 - the right to liberty and security of the person
Article 6 - the right to a fair trial (and to a range of other associated things, such as the free assistance of an interpreter if one cannot understand the language in a trial situation)
Article 7 - the right not to be punished for something which was not a crime at the time it was done
Article 8 - the right to respect for one's private and family life, correspondence and home
Article 9 - the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion
Article 10 - the right to freedom of expression, freedom to hold opinions and freedom to receive and impart information
Article 11 - the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and freedom of association with others
Article 12 - the right to marry and found a family
Article 14 - the right not to have Convention rights secured in a discriminatory way
Protocol 1, Article 1- the right to peaceful enjoyment of one's possessions
Protocol 1, Article 2- the right to education
Protocol 1, Article 3- the right to free and secret elections at reasonable intervals.
Originally posted by budski
Please try and do a bit of research before spouting useless and ignorant knee jerk reactions.
Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by InfoProvider
what UTTER BOLLOCKS
you MAY have been harrassed at a belfast fruitiers stall - but there has NEVER been any law real or imaginary to prevent photography od the security services , the RUC
I , and many others from ATS served in the british army - and we were there at the height of the troubles - and irish , british and international press phototgraphers were EVERYWHERE
I am now in touch with current photographers in ulster - who are documenting the progession to peace - and urban photgraphers who chronicle the passing of places like the maze , crumlin road , moscow barraks etc - with ZERO haarasment
i have no idea how you form your opinions - but they do not reflect reality
thats the most polite way i can say - you are full of crap