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Congress Rep - Proposal to Take Pension Funds - Give Money to Banks

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posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 10:31 PM
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There's no money left to distribute after the last eight years of crony giveaways!

Better to distribute back to the people instead of your crony corporate buddies, isn't it Tex? Or not?
Liberals are grown up enough to decide whats best for themselves. Conservatives think government needs to decide whats best! They care about more power, more money, more oppression. Liberals care about people. Which do you care about: war,money,power- or -people, peace & campassion for others. Seems to me liberals are progressive. Conservatives would be the opposite. Actually promoting the very one world government their bible predicts will befall them! What a revelation!
Now thats settled, I agree the problems are too big to be taken care of by anyone. It would take a total change we won't do. We are set in our primitive selfish thinking. After the train wreck left for the current administration, I wouldn't be surprised if all that can be done is make the fall more palatable! Thanks for helping these crooks! Just write your checks to the banks like you would anyway!


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posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 10:46 PM
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Star for you! While I do think it is worth a try. I don't think it will do much good. The game is played. The pattern is set. Will not matter much what we try at this point. All that will be tried is prop up a failed system. All while rewarding the corrupt. For how long this can be kept up is anyones guess. We need a complete infrastructure, housing and social change based on sustainability! We won't do it. We will squabble over a few million while giving the banks HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS with no accountability!
All while people lose their jobs and go hungry in this country? Makes me so proud!

It would take alot more than a few letters to change much at this point. The real people in charge do not have to answer to anyone! Actually congress does have the authority to intercede on our behalf, but a little intimidation would fix that I'm afraid.
Ever hear the term absolute power corrupts absolutely?
Happens to the best of men. Everyone has a price and in today's world they also take plastic!



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posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 11:11 PM
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Problem reaction solution people. I'm amazed that the people haven't gone completely mad yet.

I personally feel that this is just another in a long long list of grievances towards the American people. There trying to push our buttons, do you really believe that they are that stupid? They want us to all stirred up, do something stupid.

It will come to a point though that they may loose control of there own game.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 11:12 PM
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This is just more of the globalists drinking our milkshakes.

It won't end until they have their sticky little fingers in any liquidiity fund and Obama is appointing Trilateralists to finish off the job.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 11:22 PM
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I read the financial news every day ad nauseum. I watch cpsan and listen to them in congress.
I actually read the legislation they pass.

And I just want to know wtf is going on? I mean WTF is going on?
I almost hope their IS a conspiracy behind it, because if there isn't, OMG what a great big cluster mess we've got in DC.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 11:30 PM
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While I hate to keep posting, this is really easy to figure out. They are either really farging stupid or there really are a few certain families that run pretty much the whole world. Pick your poison. Either way is not pretty! Thanks for the thread and posts. I'm glad people want to know where their kids and grankids's money is going! Doubt if it will ever change but you cant say you wernt warned and to be prepared for anything!

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posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 11:41 PM
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I can think of a way to cut at least $90,575,500.00 Right off the top:

2008 -- $169,300 per annum Average Salary of Congressmen X 535.


[edit on 2/10/2009 by defcon5]



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 11:42 PM
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thank god that crackhead isn't from my state.

The people in the congressional district that he does represent need to have their voting rights removed! along with anyone that voted to re-elect incumbants and voted to give the socialists a majority and control of all 3 branches of government.

If you ask me congress should be limited to 2, 6 year terms and then they are done in washington. no more of this BS serving in the house or senate for unlimited number of terms. you get 2 terms. no more of this serving in congress then running for potus and no more of this serving in the congress then taking a cabinet position!

while I'm at it they need to abolish the fed! The fed helped cause the great depression, then durring the depression slowed the recovery out of it! History repeats itself! Don't believe me, look at what the fed is doing now Publicly saying they are doing all they can to stop the recession, they wouldn't even admit until dec. that we had been in a recession for over a year. now that the U.S. is in a depression once again the fed won't even admit it now.

they need to force all of the banks to open their balance sheets, Wipe them clean and do the same with all the people. let everyone start over. But no more credit! the majority of people cannot live within their means and they don't need the temptation of credit to feed their addiction.

Their is something like 19 million empty houses currently in the U.S. no one knows how much they are worth because there really isn't a market for houses. so why don't the government seize these houses and auction them off to people that don't own a home?

The government wants to stimulate the economy, and i agree it needs stimulating, But this stimulis bill is not stimulis it is an outright socialist speanding bill! It will not create jobs and if by some chance it does we won't see those jobs until atleast 2010- 2011.

The socialist in charge of congress thinks they can spend your money better than you can. I got news for them I make a hell of alot better purchises then congress does. at least i don't waste my money on crap i really don't need.

I'm so sick of the stupid americans that keep voting to send these crooked bastards back to Washington. Who voted to give the socialists control of all 3 branches of government. I'm so sick of the hipcryts on this board that were so hell bent on voting in the socialist they voted in a guy that has no expeirence. who will do more harm to this country than BUsh did and he did a lot of damage, they voted in the socialist who are the same cracheads that will look you in the eye and ask you to volunteer to hand over your pension fund to help this country and in exchange we'll promise an 8.5% return on your investment. Even though they know they have no intention of making good on their promise and go ahead and seize everyones retirement funds!

All you people that voted in Obama and his socialist buddies, I hope your happy and don't you dare cry when you realize that you were duped! the only change your going to get is that loose change you got in your pocket right now. thats all you'll have left when Obama and co. are done with you.

I'll get off my soap box now

and The Agent Nineteen my rant wasn't directed at you!



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 11:46 PM
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Now I understand why grandpa buried his loot in the backyard, I wandered if the FED's tried to take their savings away from them also.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:06 AM
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Well, it has to be, doesn't it? And it maybe BOTH. There's a small group empowered by a lot of completely clueless politicians.

But now,ok, that is resolved, what I can't figure out is, why other people can't figure this out and why people are not upset about it?



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:09 AM
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So,they are proposing a bill that will make the looting of the national treasury legal this is just the first step before they bail on us and leave the country in ruins.It's called treason folks plain and simple.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:14 AM
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The "socialists" would like to give the people some money for a change instead of the rich corrupt banker types getting it all.(again) Would be nice for a change, unfortunately the money was already spent fighting cheney's war! DUH
The msm machine is still going strong and succeding I see.(the oil company commercials are non stop,but they are the only ones still making billions)Who do you support again? Funny how the shoes on the other foot for a change! Now now, be patriotic and support your president! Remember we're all in this together.




[edit on 11-2-2009 by dodadoom]



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:31 AM
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For those of you that haven't read this yet, here is some eye opening info.
It explains the mindset of the Bankers. It does not matter that it was written over a hundred years ago, it is relevant RIGHT NOW.

The Bankers Manifesto of 1892
2005 07 02

Revealed by US Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr. from Minnesota before the US Congress sometime during his term of office between the years of 1907 and 1917 to warn the citizens.

"We (the bankers) must proceed with caution and guard every move made, for the lower order of people are already showing signs of restless commotion. Prudence will therefore show a policy of apparently yielding to the popular will until our plans are so far consummated that we can declare our designs without fear of any organized resistance. The Farmers Alliance and Knights of Labor organizations in the United States should be carefully watched by our trusted men, and we must take immediate steps to control these organizations in our interest or disrupt them.

At the coming Omaha Convention to be held July 4th (1892), our men must attend and direct its movement, or else there will be set on foot such antagonism to our designs as may require force to overcome. This at the present time would be premature. We are not yet ready for such a crisis. Capital must protect itself in every possible manner through combination ( conspiracy) and legislation.

The courts must be called to our aid, debts must be collected, bonds and mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible.

When through the process of the law, the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and easily governed through the influence of the strong arm of the government applied to a central power of imperial wealth under the control of the leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders.

History repeats itself in regular cycles. This truth is well known among our principal men who are engaged in forming an imperialism of the world. While they are doing this, the people must be kept in a state of political antagonism.

The question of tariff reform must be urged through the organization known as the Democratic Party, and the question of protection with the reciprocity must be forced to view through the Republican Party.

By thus dividing voters, we can get them to expand their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us, except as teachers to the common herd. Thus, by discrete action, we can secure all that has been so generously planned and successfully accomplished."

Revealed by Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr. to the U.S. Congress sometime between 1907 and 1917.

THE BANKERS’ MANIFESTO OF 1934

Capital must protect itself in every way, through combination and through legislation. Debts must be collected and loans and mortgages foreclosed as soon as possible. When through a process of law, the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and more easily governed by the strong arm of the law applied by the central power of wealth, under control of leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our principle men now engaged in forming an IMPERIALISM of capital to govern the world. By dividing the people we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us except as teachers of the common herd. Thus by discrete action we can secure for ourselves what has been generally planned and successfully accomplished.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:34 AM
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I just love this 3 weeks of "Change" so
many voted for. I did not like Bush, and
I sure as hell don't like Barry.

Their all Crooks. They make Nixon look
like Mary Poppins.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:47 AM
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Originally posted by dodadoom
The "socialists" would like to give the people some money for a change instead of the rich corrupt banker types getting it all.(again) Would be nice for a change, unfortunately the money was already spent fighting cheney's war! DUH
The msm machine is still going strong and succeding I see.(the oil company commercials are non stop,but they are the only ones still making billions)Who do you support anyway? Funny how the shoes on the other foot for a change! Now now, be patriotic and support your president! Remember we're all in this together.

[edit on 11-2-2009 by dodadoom]


Some people just don't get it. They will not take from the rich and give to the poor. They are taking from the Middle class and giving it to the poor and the rich.
I guess that's ok if you don't want to work hard and "earn" a good living.
If your lazy and just want everything to be handed to you.

The only Support you will see out of me, is support for Impeachment of this Treasonous bastard. The things that are being done are Unconstitutional and that is Treason.
Do you know what the only punishment for that is?
I guess someone like you does not care for having any rights. And I suppose you won't mind when they inject that chip into your head.

I say split the country into thirds. Put the hard working good honest people in the middle and charge everyone else for flying over to visit thier Marxist friends on the other side.
I guess our President showed another alieas Carl Hussien Obama Marx.
What a piece of crap.
I better get it all out now, as they are working on curbing our first amendment also.

Mods; I only stated facts and should be's. I cannot help if what they are doing is not nice.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:51 AM
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Originally posted by questioningall
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Are you kidding me?

As a head of a fund, you would have it put in banks???

You would REALLY risk your pensioners money in BANKS?

BANKS, that are insolvant, with trillions out in derivatives?

BANKS - which are taking billions from the govt. and then paying themselves billions/millions in bonuses?

If I was someone in a pension plan I would say NO WAY!!

Question...............do the people in those pensions ........have a choice in where THEIR MONEY is invested????????

I would be UP IN ARMS, if ANYONE suggested MY money - went to banks!!!!!!!!!!!

I would take to the streets, if some "head" of a fund...took MY MONEY and put in in banks.........without my approval!!!

NEVER!! will ONE DIME of my money go in investment to a BANK!!

I don't trust them with any of my money at this point, and only leave enough to pay bills in each month!!

NEVER will a bank get my money again in any abundance!!


So did you read where the govt GUARUNTEES the assets and the return? That is unbeatable. You aren't even speaking with anything resembling knowledge. Even if the bank became insolvent as you state, it is govt guarunteed. For that to go bad, anything else you could put money into would go bad as well.

But you are right, I would never put a cent of non-guarunteed money into a bank stock. I am market neutral right with heavy exposure to metals. Occasionally using SKF to short the financials on market run ups.


Unbeatable as long as the dollar holds up



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:52 AM
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Hard to make it more plain isn't it? Look into the year 1913 also!
Pretty much explains the mentality for sure! The thing that gets me is it is STILL working. The money is being siphoned out of the country at a record pace! We are on a road to nowhere and people wont believe it even if they are in a homeless shelter begging for food. They see stories of the banks getting bailouts for stupid things. How does that look to anyone with a half a brain? As long as we accept it, we will be used and abused I guess. Oh well life goes on...


Ex

posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:56 AM
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Hey,I have an idea!

Let's give all the very rich corporations tax breaks,
while borrowing from China. We will then print more
paper let the value fall to almost nothing.
Continue a War that will unite the country against
a common enemy, while we give all the no-bid contracts
to you, Mr Vice President!

Oh Yea, and just to keep them in line, we will scare the boots off
of them saying terrorist are coming to your town!

OOOOOO Dag........We did that one already!



[edit on 2/11/2009 by Ex]



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 01:01 AM
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You know, the sad thing is a friend and I are informing as many as we can. But when we give them this Manifesto to read they just look at us and say "This isn't true, your making this stuff up." About 9 out of ten react this way. We feel like we are talking to deaf, dumb and blind sheeple.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 01:04 AM
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Some people just don't get it. They will not take from the rich and give to the poor. They are taking from the Middle class and giving it to the poor and the rich.


What would be the difference? They have always done that. In the last eight years they have perfected it is all! YOU don't get it. We are already screwed. It's too late. Does not matter whos in charge. Dont worry about the lazy, worry about the people ripping you off! The lazy will starve or not be lazy. I dont see to many skinny people anymore come to think of it!



The only Support you will see out of me, is support for Impeachment of this Treasonous bastard. The things that are being done are Unconstitutional and that is Treason.


I know huh! both W and cheney ought to be tried for war crimes!!!
I got my shtick together. I don need no stinkin chip! Thanks!



I say split the country into thirds. Put the hard working good honest people in the middle and charge everyone else for flying over to visit thier Marxist friends on the other side.


Dude, all I can say is quit the hatin' --for all of us!
I didn't even vote! I dont beleive in it. Does no good here.
In a democracy, 49% of the people are getting screwed at any one time.
In other words put up with it or move I guess, thats our choices.



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