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Originally posted by specialasianX
Yeah but will Mr Businessman use this tax break to hire more staff? Not usually, it will likely go straight into his pocket... thats why giving low income earners the tax break is the better thing to do because they will spend it (or most of it) on neccesities and basic luxuries, where as mr business man will likely use it to expand his multi million dollar mansion or buy a ferrari...
Originally posted by RANT
Mind you not all, I'm personally aware of THREE long term board members that LOVE 100% of being a Republican and admit no wrong or shame. Having said that, however, I'm aware that alot of conservatives here will be voting Bush regardless...
Originally posted by ashley
Sigh. It's so sad when someone regards their political beliefs as a religion and refuses to see the other side. Politics is not religion, countries change. God doesn't (though his message has to because we, as a civilization, do).
what are you talking about jake. The word conservative means to hold back. I wasn't talking about politics or religion,please I would never bring up religion. Its insulting.
Originally posted by junglejake
And that, my friend, is where we differ...In the belief in the human condition. Some will do that, yes, but I don't think humans, as a whole, are like that. I work for a company that is not a corporation. And believe me, the owner of the company loves the company much more then himself. If he had to get rid of his pay, he would. Everything he does is for the company, not for his wallet. I believe, to date, that this is typical of small business owners. And they're the ones who really benefit from a tax break. Microsoft can hire uber accountants to make it so their company only has to pay $5 a year (not fact, just made it up) A small business owner can't afford a team of accountants.
Originally posted by ashley
Jethro, what are you talking about also. You and Jake smoking the same stuff.
Conserving.
You should embrace your label and not get mad at people that know what it means.
Originally posted by ashley
Sigh. It's so sad when someone regards their political beliefs as a religion and refuses to see the other side. Politics is not religion, countries change. God doesn't (though his message has to because we, as a civilization, do).
what are you talking about jake. The word conservative means to hold back.
Originally posted by RANT
A "Republican" explosion?
Or just a "Conservative" one?
I've noticed over time that even the most "dyed in the wool" Republicans that venture to ATS and stick around for a bit eventually admit somewhere, on some post, when cornered, and faced with gnawing off a limb or recanting one thing about "Republicans" will a majority of the time begrudgingly say...
"Well, I'm not really a Republican, I'm an Independent or a LIBERTARIAN *cough, cough*"
Mind you not all, I'm personally aware of THREE long term board members that LOVE 100% of being a Republican and admit no wrong or shame. Having said that, however, I'm aware that alot of conservatives here will be voting Bush regardless...
But I'm just letting you know, if you ever admitted on any post, anywhere on ATS that Bush and the Republicans aren't perfect...and you're REALLY less of a Republican than an X, Y or Z.... I made a mental note for future reference.
Tit for tat... I will say I'm NOT an Independent and NOT a LIBERTARIAN as I am a 100% YELLOW DOG DEMOCRAT and proud of every plank in the platform...
Can anyone else say the same about the platforms they'll be voting? Don't lie. God is watching. :shk:
Originally posted by krankinkx
Originally posted by RANT
A "Republican" explosion?
Or just a "Conservative" one?
I've noticed over time that even the most "dyed in the wool" Republicans that venture to ATS and stick around for a bit eventually admit somewhere, on some post, when cornered, and faced with gnawing off a limb or recanting one thing about "Republicans" will a majority of the time begrudgingly say...
Tit for tat... I will say I'm NOT an Independent and NOT a LIBERTARIAN as I am a 100% YELLOW DOG DEMOCRAT and proud of every plank in the platform...
Can anyone else say the same about the platforms they'll be voting? Don't lie. God is watching. :shk:
[Edited on 4-15-2004 by krankinkx]
Originally posted by Seekerof
Originally posted by RANT
Mind you not all, I'm personally aware of THREE long term board members that LOVE 100% of being a Republican and admit no wrong or shame. Having said that, however, I'm aware that alot of conservatives here will be voting Bush regardless...
Who would those three "Repugnants" be RANT, I'm curious myself?
Originally posted by ashley
no, it means to keep tradition, avoid excess, to preserve a belief or to resist change, more so if it isnt needed or if it works.
holding back is not being conservative, its being stubborn.
That is ridiculous, Lets use your current leader as an example.
What tradition is he keeping. The tradition of war, please I think we could all do without that. The tradition of bankrupting businesses he is involved in, I think we could do without that. The tradition of secrecy, I think we could do without that. The tradition of proudly being un-educated, I think we could do without that.
Avoid excess,what? How about alcoholism,drug abuse,war,money,ignorance,lies.
To preserve a belief, is tradition,thank you.
To resist change, We should resist all the changes being made currently. None of these changes are needed or neccesary.
Talk about being stubborn, look at this idiot. You must of not seen the triumphant return of G.W. the other night. The guy is a mule, just stupider.
Conservatism, hah.
Originally posted by ashley
Your assumation is rediculous as well as misguilded. You seemt he type that would see that a black man robbed a 7-11 near your home and decided that on that example to hate black men.
Sounds rediculous when you change the character types doesn't it?
Fact is, is that there are plenty of conservatives who do not live by the beliefs put forth. But is this not true about the democratic party? Clinton was certainly not a fair example of a Democrat.
When you judge a group by a few, you are setting yourself down a dangerous road.
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Hey jughead,can you please stop mispelling everything as well as misthinking everything. I am not a horse, i cant be misuilded.LOL
Thats rediculous? If you are a conservative not living by the beliefs, are you really a conservative?
You know Clinton may have been a good example of a democrat.
The guy could get a BJ and run a country. Your leader obviously cant do either. Is Laura still running stop signs and killing people.
By the way i dont use spellcheck, I think its cheating.
Originally posted by J0HNSmith
Wow ashley, although I did get a chuckle out of your snipe at bush there I can't help to wonder what you are doing here? Are the politics in your country so dull that you have to come here to comment on the politics of other countries?