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Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
Nassim Hashim is correct and has not been proven wrong in his claim no mummy OR dead body has ever been found in a PYRAMID on EARTH EVER.
btw the title of this thread is very misleading.
One of the most common fringe claims is that.
"no pyramid has been found with a body in it"
Obviously that is not correct, as their are commonly known pyramids in mesoamerica that have them, and they have been found in situ and in recent times.
So the claim changed
"No Egyptian pyramid has been found with a body in it"
That one is false too, but before I show the evidence for that let me briefly explore the history of that phase, "No........pyramid has been found with a body in it"
I first came across it in early UFO materials, when Neferu-ptah was found it switched from
"No pyramid has been found with a body in it" to the more sexist, No pyramid has been found with a pharaoh in it"
Later when the Meso pyramids were found with bodies of kings it changed again
to "No Egyptian pyramids have been found with a Pharaoh inside" and the ultimate, "No Giza pyramid has been found with a Pharaoh inside".
Now the original phase has been coming back as fringe people, data mine the old UFO materials for materials.
So now to Neferu-ptah
Neferu-Ptah was a daughter of the Egyptian king Amenemhat III (c. 1860 BC to 1814 BC). She was unusual as she may have been planning to be one of the female pharaohs, but she died young.
Her intact pyramid tomb with mummy were found at Hawara she was the daughter of Amenemhet III.
The discovery is covered here in this book.
Bob Brier, Ancient Egyptian Magic, William morrow & Company, inc NY 1981, ppg 32, 33 117-118 ISBN ISBN-13: 978-0688007966 (for the 1998 paperback edition)
Originally posted by DJones
How do you explain all the historic discrepancies then?
I for one have to put a little weight behind all ancient civilizations all saying there was something from the heavens that taught them their #. The same way as how everyone has a story about a great flood. Did they all just make that up?
Originally posted by Learhoag
Historic discrepancies? An example, please.
Sorry, not EVERYONE has a story about a great flood. Some cultures have stories about local floods for that is all they would have known. Besides, you're probably referring to the biblical flood, a myth, since researchers have proven local floods as being responsible for tales of a global flood, something no one in any other part of the world would have known about. Locality, that's all they knew.
Some map that has been untouched since the 1500's that was based on much older maps that have both South America and Antarctica coastlines. The Antarctica map showed the coastline without ice. Only when we had satellites could we even confirm it was correct.
Sumerian and other ancient writings that not only tell of all of our planets in our system but also they're color and distance
Neolithic ruins in africa that correctly depict the distance of stars from us as well as the shape of the milky way.
Center for Archaeoastronomy.
In 1997 McKim Malville identified some very suggestive alignments at a megalithic complex in the southern Egyptian desert at Nabta, a site of seasonal habitation for nomadic pastoralists between 11,000 and 4,800 years ago (Malville et al. 1998). One stone circle exhibits a line-of-sight 'window' at an azimuth of 62 degrees; the rising mid-summer sun would have been visible in that direction circa 6,000 years BP. This is quite fittingly the oldest astronomically aligned structure yet discovered anywhere on the planet.
The Dogon tribe's ancient myths, that eerily depict what we have only recently known about quantum physics.
The deformed human skulls (yes I know we can deform our own skulls but why might I ask) that are found in religious areas in south America that are shown to be their sun gods and have twice the cranium capacity of a normal human.
Artificial cranial modification in Ancient Iran
Cranial modification is caused during infancy through the shaping of a baby’s head whilst it is still malleable. Such shaping can be caused by both intentional and unintentional means, using objects such as bandages or textiles, wooden boards, or even simply massaging the head, causing either a flattening or elongation of the human skull
Neolithic ruins, from France and Great Britain dated back to when we apparently could hardly survive.
The one pyramid that's fifty feet lower than it should be. No they did not dig 50 into the desert and start the pyramid there
A bunch of stuff from the Hindu Epic, not sure of name
"Dark the descent: the birds are golden-coloured; up to the heaven they fly robed in the waters. Again descend they from the seat of Order, and all the earth is moistened with their fatness." "Twelve are the fellies, and the wheel is single; three are the naves. What man hath understood it? Therein are set together spokes three hundred and sixty, which in nowise can be loosened." (trans. Griffith)
In Dayananda Saraswati's "translation", these verses become: "jumping into space speedily with a craft using fire and water ... containing twelve stamghas (pillars), one wheel, three machines, 300 pivots, and 60 instruments."
Apparently intelligently designed Grooved spheres found in the middle of ancient rocks Ica Stones ( I know, could be fake)
The Antikythera Mechanism, we have no idea what even the romans were capable of
National Geographic It's no less remarkable for being the product of human invention.
Though many of its functions remain mysterious, previous research found that the device tracked and displayed the date, a 19-year calendar, and the positions of the sun and moon. The mechanism even predicted eclipses—though with limited accuracy—using an 18-year eclipse cycle, called the Saros cycle, that was known to Babylonian astronomers centuries before the mechanism was built.
The Baghdad Battery, same thing as above
About the Dogon, I personally, always assumed the Sirius aspect of them was a hoax. I learned about their monuments in a book called Forbidden Science, but for some reason all I can find on the internet about them is the stuff about Sirius claims. Which I find weird because the monuments show much more knowledge along with proof of their knowledge.
...though they do speak about sigu tolo they disagree completely with each other as to which star is meant; for some it is an invisible star that should rise to announce the sigu [festival], for another it is Venus that, through a different position, appears as sigu tolo. All agree, however, that they learned about the star from Griaule'
In 1965, Robert Temple was handed the Griaule and Dieterlen study by his mentor, Arthur M Young. A year later, Temple became the Secretary of Young's Foundation for the Study Of Consciousness. A year after that, Temple began work on the thesis that would become The Sirius Mystery - a thesis he would have to submit to Young for evaluation.
Arthur Young was a believer in a group of channelled entities called 'The Council of Nine'. These entities claim to be the nine creator gods of ancient Egypt, something that Young was well aware of having been present at the first 'meeting' of the council, an event made possible by Andrija Puharich.
I don't understand how the sumerians, no matter how good of observers they were could correctly identify all the planets with no evidence of telescopes. Little less correctly predicting their color.
Source with references
Mercury: Ubu-idim-gud-ud,Gud-ud,Gu-ad,Gu-Utu, Nebo
Add the above FIVE "wanderers" to the sun and moon which also traced their own unique paths across the sky, and you get a total of SEVEN major heavenly objects. The ancients imagined that these SEVEN were special gods overseeing the flat earth below. For instance, the Babylonians referred to the "watchful eye" of Shamash, the sun, who notes all things. And a prayer to Mars (Nergal) states, "With Sin (the Moon) in Heaven thou perceivest all things." Compare the Hebrew notion that "these SEVEN [lights] are the eyes of the Lord which range to and fro throughout the earth" (Zechariah 4:10).
Originally posted by Learhoag
C'mon, man, get your brain in gear! Alien genetic engineering? You gotta be kidding! First, provide evidence for aliens in the present since they are a modern phenomenom. No hearsay, please. Our past is explained by history and there is nothing in history that explains any of your fantastic yarn.
What underwater "pyramids"? I've heard of underwater "structures" that have ot yet been proven one way or another and disabuse yourself from believing in ley lines, they are constructed from mind stuff! Geez!
The mystery of the buried pyramid is that according to geologists, the pyramid would have to be 10-12 thousand years old to be in that position. Same thing with the sphinx, why is there heavy water erosion evidence on a monument in the middle of the desert?
University College London
Egyptologist use the Arabic word 'mastaba', meaning 'bench', for the massive rectangular structures found above many tombs in Saqqara, Gizeh and other places. They often have rooms for offerings inside which are decorated with reliefs or paintings. The earliest mastabas are found at Tarkhan, Saqqara and Gizeh. They are structures decorated with a palace facade. They did not have any entrance.
Long since reduced to its foundations, the structure was previously known as Number 29 or the "Headless Pyramid." It was mentioned in the mid-19th century by German archaeologist Karl Richard Lepsius. Then it disappeared in the sands of Saqqara, a sprawling royal burial complex near current-day Cairo.
Originally posted by DJones
reply to post by Kandinsky
Just because I have similar beliefs does not mean I have the exact same beliefs as Sitchin, he takes an idea and elaborates beyond what is reasonable. I simply believe that since it took 3 billion years to create animals, I think that us developing our cognitive capabilities over at most 2 million years is too fast and that we would of needed help in achieving what we have done.
Edit: Please if someone disputes me on this do not say anything as simple as our ancestors took mushrooms and that exponentially influenced our evolution.
[edit on 15-2-2009 by DJones]
Neanderthals, an archaic human species that dominated Europe until the arrival of modern humans about 45,000 years ago, possessed a critical gene known to underlie speech, according to DNA evidence retrieved from two individuals excavated from El Sidron, a cave in northern Spain. The evidence stems from analysis of a gene called FOXP2 which is associated with language.
The human version of the gene differs at two critical points from the chimpanzee version, suggesting that these two changes have something to do with the fact that people can speak and chimps cannot.