Originally posted by J0HNSmith
Well jungle, your dad has said some fairly..... large accusations in the past. Frankly I think if anyone was taking what he's saying seriously it
would be plastered all over the news. Time will tell I guess.
Grandfather. But I agree, he is, like many of us, believing in the larger conspiracy. Many people think of him as a nut. The reason I don't? He's
shown me documents.
More importaintly, he has no political agenda. Look at all the accusations he's made in the past. He doesn't favor one party over the other. All
that matters to him is the truth. I've known him all my life, and my mom has told me stories of him in the past.
My mom and her siblings were big hippies in the 60s and 70s. My grandfather took fantastic care of his parsley (
I don't understand, either).
Well, they figured they'd plant some pot there, and he'd take care of it. And boy did he ever, he loved to eat the buds, said they tasted great!
Annoyed the heck out of my mom and company.
Anyway, the DA for Illinois was over at his house, along with the governer. Well, he was really proud of his parsley, so he took both of them to see
he handed the DA a bud, saying "I don't know what kind of parsley this is, but it started growing here, and it tastes great!".
DA's mouth dropped.
"Dave, do you know what this is?" That was the last thing my mom and her sister (who told me this story) heard before running downstairs and for the
door before they heard a hugh "GOD DAMN IT!" Both of them froze. My grandfather just told them to be back at a certain time, he had to talk to them.
He didn't know they were freaked out when the DA was being shown the "parsley" and watched the whole exchange.
When he was talking to them, my mom denied everything. And she did it in true politician/lawyer fashion. My Aunt confessed everything. As she did, my
mom turned whiter and whiter. And she was severly punished. The reason? The rule of the house. The number one rule of the house: always tell the
. My Aunt was praised for admitting her wrongdoing, my mom was, essensially, sentanced to life. I find it very very hard to believe that his
beliefs have shifted so far as to allow him to lie for political or personal reasons. He has been knighted by the Catholic Church (something we get
into arguements over all the time) for donations, (
Technically, he can ride a horse into a church). He told me tonight indirectly (I was
listening while fixing their DVD player, he was telling this to my grandma) that "O'Reilly wanted the truth, he said, so he wanted me. His producer
started to recomend someone else [because of your contention, JOHNSmith, and people who agree] to appear on the show. O'Reilly shouted [man, I do
hate O'Reilly, far too arrogant] I WANT THE TRUTH! And there was my grandfather. If that's true, I don't know, O'Reilly told that story to my
So in short, I trust my grandfather implicitly. However, I do recognise that people can believe a lie with all their soul. I've looked into a lot of
what he's told me, though, and I've told him I'm going to look into it. I've said "What you're saying is so extreme...I need to check this out
myself. What would you recomend I start searching for, even though I'm going to go well beyond that?" Usually that's when I get the comment
"That's my grandson, you're just like your mother [who is a die hard liberal]"
I've questioned him, and he has NEVER
come up lacking. But now you're going to have to ask yourselves the same thing. To do so,
I recomend you read my posts. I can be sarcastic at times, but I believe it's obvious when I am. See if (Other then TimeCube, my first thread here,
when I was a point whore) any of my posts contradict eachother. See if I've been caught in a lie. Then evaluate my words, I think they'll hold true
to what I believe, even if it's not what you believe. Lol, and suddenly that What makes a conspirator thread will make sense...