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**AMAZING** Artifact On Mars!! Original JPL Picture source included!!

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posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 10:30 AM
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I am a searchfull spirit myself.
However i would expect to see something more than:


Mod Edit: No suggestive images please. Family site. Image removed


or


Mod Edit: No suggestive images please. Family site. Image removed



or







or (even in my place)












and expect to see something more like:

















and




or










bE WELL !!!


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Mod Edit: Proper use of [im] tags is only for News sites. Otherwise we steal bandwidth.

[edit on 2/11/2009 by Badge01]




posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by RFBurns
Any compression, doesnt matter if its called lossless or not, removes information to reduce file size.
Not really.

A lossless compression method works like when you create a ZIP or RAR compressed file, those compression methods are lossless, like the one PNG files use.

Also, TIFF files can use several compression methods, including JPEG or LZW compression, although it is more commonly used in its uncompressed version.


TIFF might be old, but its still the best to work with IMO.
For some uses TIFF is still the best option, but as a compressed file format with the possibility of being seen in a web page, PNG is the best.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by RFBurns
Any compression, doesnt matter if its called lossless or not, removes information to reduce file size.
Not really.

A lossless compression method works like when you create a ZIP or RAR compressed file, those compression methods are lossless, like the one PNG files use.

Any save compression of an image... File compression and image compression is hardly the same, since any image compression does indeed remove information. Even the 100% quality 6mb+ average camera images are quite compressed compared to its RAW counterpart.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:49 PM
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It looks like something coming out of the ground to grab something.I saw something on youtube back in January very simular, and they were showing that this object had been moving. The features were near enough the same. I deffinatly think that's a skull next to it.
I had a theory once I saw a picture of a massive hole in Mars that could it be at all possible that the Mars gound is some kind of hardened ozone layer/ like an egg and that there really is a subterrenean world inside??? anyway that's only my thinking out of the box theory!!



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Rocks do not have 90 degrees angles to them.

This just cant be a rock.


I think it would be even more strange if there were no 90 degree angled rocks anywhere on the planet.



And here.

Looks like there are a few natural 90 degree-angled rocks there and that was a simple Google search - no doubt there are far better examples.

The OP certainly presents an interesting image.


Can you imagine the exicitement and wild theories flying around if the rovers had returned those images from the second link I provided?

We would be going nuts: martian skyscrapers - giant counting tools


[edit on 11/2/2009 by skibtz]



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP
PNG is a lossless format, like TIFF, only newer and without the possibility of having multiple files packaged inside like TIFF does.


And unlike tiff, png can be displayed on a website or forum



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by thrashee
Dude, I could care less what other people are doing in this thread.


My so much anger...:WOW: yet you say you have no point to make?

With that attitude, why should we care what YOUR doing in this thread?






...

[edit on 11-2-2009 by zorgon]



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by merka
File compression and image compression is hardly the same, since any image compression does indeed remove information.
It depends on what you call image compression.

If by image compression you are thinking in a JPEG like compression algorithm, that even uses psycho-visual effects to achieve a higher compression ration, then they are not the same thing.

But on a computer, an image is a file, so any file compression algorithm can be used, and a good example is an algorithm that, instead of saving 10 pixels of white saves information saying that when read it should show 10 times a white pixel. The information for saying that will be smaller than the information for the 10 white pixels. This is more or less how RLE compression, a lossless compression system used in Windows BMPs, for example, works.


Even the 100% quality 6mb+ average camera images are quite compressed compared to its RAW counterpart.
Usually, the RAW files have more information (12 bits or 16 bits) and also have some metadata about the photo, so it's no wonder they are bigger.

Back on topic, the IMG files from that link I posted some posts back, use more or less the same type of information as the RAW files from the cameras, saving text information inside them and after that the image data.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 02:04 PM
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**Attention**
From this point on no sniping, personal comments, snide remarks, comebacks or off-topic comments Please!

Posts with such may be removed and the Member warned.

The topic is Amazing Artifacts on Mars. Discuss the topic and not the poster.

Thanks for your attention to this.

-Badge01
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posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 02:10 PM
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The Artifact looks like it had a wooden handed at one time that is long gone. The bend in the handle may have been from a blast if the result of war. Also note a object out side of the picture to the far right that needs a close up. An object like the one behind the handle of a human face was also found on our moon.
NASA when they took pictures again of the face on Mars and released to the press had been run threw high and low filters to make flat the image. To throw the public off. The planet has idol drawings over it and statues of idols, pyramids, and a big list of other finds.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 02:29 PM
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Look you idiots, Mars has an atmosphere though not much of it is left. This atmosphere was once healthy and clean such as the earth was but is no longer. This atmosphere is uncovering not covering the secrets that many blind and very dumb morons continue to ignore.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP
For some uses TIFF is still the best option, but as a compressed file format with the possibility of being seen in a web page, PNG is the best.


I agree there! Its far better to host a 30mb PNG than it would be to host a 300 mb image for general display purposes!!

I just had hoped that when the rovers raw datasets were published that they would have had been in a better format than the jpg. NASA should have put up links from those datasets to the higher resoltuion versions.



Cheers!!!!



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 02:55 PM
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uhm i just snipered and could only edit my comment. isnt it possible to delete own postings?

greetz

[edit on 11-2-2009 by MindForce]



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 05:43 PM
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Completely very old and yes, the moderator is right, it is 3 different rocks that from that view look weird. This has been around for a long time.

From the original title of you post you look like you had disovered the cure for cancer. Did you think for at least one second that someone had probably already noticed this?



[edit on 11-2-2009 by rocksarerocks]



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 05:45 PM
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You wanna make up any more fiction or are you done? Yeah artifacts lay on the surface of a planet with sandstorms forever after a war between aliens.

LOL.



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 05:49 PM
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oh that thats nothing thats what we call on our planet a borlak its use is simular to what you humans call toilet paper



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 06:14 PM
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Very cool image.

RikRiley showed me this one about 8 months ago. Frankly, I rarely come to ATS anymore... due to the 'Because I said so!' majority - that most often states; "We decided a while back!" - and have just had enough of the nausea.

I sincerly believe... that there could be a video from Mars... of a flying saucer... with it's hatches open... and the occupants sitting in lawnchairs... sipping pina coladas... and it will ALWAYS be a rock... or a trick of light.

There is absolutely NOTHING... that any of you... will EVER post here... that the 'leaders' of this site... won't tell you that you are high... or something. Incredible... egotistical... maniaca horse-cookies.

Why do you 'Brain truss' Einsteins - waste your time on this 'Fantasy' site then?? Why do you hover... and go through every thread??

Only to be insulting and destructive, I suspect. I think you are just scared... and this is your way of 'making things safe.'

I am immovable. I hear you are psychic. How many fingers am I holding up??

There are unusual things out there. But people like the forementioned... will always do their best... to ensure that it is never formally acceptable. And there are more of them than the latter. It is also these types that control the mass media and academia. They are far too threatened - and the 'Status quo' will be upheld for decades to come.

As it is a majority here - this forum is mostly invalid.

You will have to 'believe' on your own.

jb



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 06:31 PM
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How many ad hominems, appeals to ridicule, appeals to emotion, non sequitors, and straw man fallacies can you possibly cram into one post?

You mean you're just now figuring out that us skeptics control the media? Guess what....no episode of "Heroes" for you tonight!



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 06:32 PM
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From the original title of you post you look like you had disovered the cure for cancer.


Pfft


Forgive me for finding/thinking something is something 'amazing', and for wanting to share it with some people


I'll just get back in my box shall I?







Did you think for at least one second that someone had probably already noticed this?


Chilled dude


Yes i I knew this has already been seen! I didn't beleive it at first, so i spent a good hour trying to track down the original.

Thought others who HAVEN'T seen it, might wanna take a look.

Just because you have seen it before, does that mean others cannot? (rhetorical question)


AoN

[edit on 11-2-2009 by Anomic of Nihilism]

[edit on 11-2-2009 by Anomic of Nihilism]



posted on Feb, 11 2009 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Anomic of Nihilism
Forgive me for finding/thinking something is something 'amazing', and for wanting to share it with some people



The problem wasn't really the "amazing" part of your title, Anomic, but rather the implied claim you made within it. You started off the bat saying an artifact was on Mars, except the whole point (presumably) of this thread was to see if said object was truly an artifact (or amazing at all).

It's a rather common mistake many make here. So to offer some friendly advice: choose your words carefully, be honest in what you're attempting to do, and have your title and OP reflect that.

In this case, your OP was fine, as you stated you were just offering your opinion and seeking that of others (and I jumped on you erroneously there, sorry).



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