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Octuplet Grandma Calls Daughter 'Unconscionable'

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posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 10:47 AM
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The woman sounds delusional, nobody is suggesting that we somehow magically travel back in time and make these kids not be born, they need looked after, but I would be surprised if welfare has not been used before and again

*of course maybe she will make a million on the back of the publicity*




posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 12:01 PM
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Hi, I see a lot of questions raised about her being an illegal. Knowing how good ATSers are I thought I would ask! I just asked not accuse. I guess should have expected to be attacked? I find her actions crazy so that leaves in American citizens no matter what hair colour she has! Is that how you judge people LaBella? Not me.
Please show me a link to the spem doner; I can't find one.
Is he gonna support all those kids?
this octo mom is pure lazieness using her ability to give life in order to live off someone else, one way or another; no wonder people are asking if she's a citizen after all.



posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 01:05 PM
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I think people are suggesting that she is illegal because of her accent and her Iraqi background. I definitely doubt she is illegal though because she had been working and therefore has a social security number and it probably would have been an issue in the workman's compensation cases (two of them).

The father's name is David Solomon, and I haven't been able to find out anything about him other than at sometime she decided to change her last name to Solomon. She apparently said at the time that it was a more acceptable form of Suleman.

Nadja Suleman has been known under a number of names to date. At school she was Natalie Doud, other times Nadja Doud, others Nadja Suleman, Nadja Solomon and probably Nadja/Natalie Gutierrez.



posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 01:05 PM
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Please re read my post. I said HER father was a contract worker. I have no idea who her sperm donor is

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posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 01:25 PM
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Nadja Suleman has been known under a number of names to date. At school she was Natalie Doud, other times Nadja Doud, others Nadja Suleman, Nadja Solomon and probably Nadja/Natalie Gutierrez.


Ok. This is interesting. I wonder how much she may profit off of these various names. Are they all linked to one social security number? Are they linked to more than one?

This woman is just very shady and is probably screwing herself by putting herself on the world stage. People will continue to dig and anything she wanted hidden, will eventually come to light.

[edit on 2/9/2009 by greeneyedleo]



posted on Feb, 9 2009 @ 01:33 PM
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All Grandma needs to do is throw the freeloading baby machine OUT of the house.

While I feel for Grandma and Grandpa, they are enabling this fiasco.

Toss her out on her rump. Problem solved.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 11:51 AM
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Here is an update for those who care.

She actually is on welfare (though she doesn't call it that). So we, the taxpayers, are supporting her and her plethora of kids that she chose to have knowing she couldn't afford them.

She is screwing not only her family, but all of us.



latimesblogs.latimes.com...

Octuplets' mother receives public assistance [UPDATED]
4:45 PM, February 9, 2009

Nadya Suleman, the woman who gave birth to octuplets last month, is receiving $490 a month in food stamps, and three of her first six children are disabled and receiving federal assistance, her publicist confirmed to The Times.

Publicist Michael Furtney confirmed the information after two sources told The Times that Suleman was receiving food stamps and federal supplemental security income.



So can someone tell me why our tax dollars go to support irresponsible people like this? She is robbing America blind. While others are responsible in their lives and work their arse off - she is off using OUR money to support her army of children.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 11:57 AM
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"the sperm donor" is her boyfriend and the father of a good number of her babies (if not all of them) David Solomon.


Originally posted by AmericanDaughter
reply to post by LaBella
 


Hi, I see a lot of questions raised about her being an illegal. Knowing how good ATSers are I thought I would ask! I just asked not accuse. I guess should have expected to be attacked? I find her actions crazy so that leaves in American citizens no matter what hair colour she has! Is that how you judge people LaBella? Not me.
Please show me a link to the spem doner; I can't find one.
Is he gonna support all those kids?
this octo mom is pure lazieness using her ability to give life in order to live off someone else, one way or another; no wonder people are asking if she's a citizen after all.







posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 11:58 AM
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Why do us taxpayers have to support anyone? Not just this woman.

But, it should be on her to support these kids, not society. She chose to have them implanted and give birth to them, so it should be up to her to shoulder the burden of them.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by skeptic1
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Why do us taxpayers have to support anyone? Not just this woman.

But, it should be on her to support these kids, not society. She chose to have them implanted and give birth to them, so it should be up to her to shoulder the burden of them.


LOL. I agree with you


But this story has me a little peeved and knowing America is supporting her chosen family annoys me to no end.

[edit on 2/10/2009 by greeneyedleo]



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 12:01 PM
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It annoys me, too. But, I just have to shake my head at the choices that some people make. If I think it about too much, my head will explode.

I have a feeling that these kids won't be with this woman for long. With all of the scrutiny on her, someone is bound to step in.

[edit on 2/10/2009 by skeptic1]



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 12:15 PM
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It's a prime example of what people do here in the UK, it's almost a profession for young women to open there legs, get nocked up then suck of the nipple of the state for the rest of their lives, sadly tho here its usualy 3 to 4 children, not erm how many has she got, 12? or more?

I saw her on the news (if thats what were meant to call it) and blow me senseless she looks like jackos long lost polymer sister, what on earth did she do with her lips i hope im wrong and she burnt it on a hot cup of coffee, why cant she talk properly, and seriously, has she been to school 'cos she didnt seem like she could muster up much more than a 6 word sentance, then again talking to that many kids all day long i guess the mentality would rub off on her.

Her mother has a part to play in this too at the end of the day she should have been shouved out on the street to get a real grasp of life the first time she dropped a litter if she has been contributing to the household.

Im neither pro or anti abortion nor pro or anti life, this may not sound fair on the kids but in reality they should never have been born, they are a bi-product of synthesised conception which she had already been through with sucess thus she should not have been allowed to have any more children, if so then she should have at least met some basic 'can i support a family' critera of which the answer is no, in my view here she should have to do mandatory community service for the rest of her life to be entitled to any form of social/welfare benefits, can you honnestly see these kids having a decent up-bringing, future life with a mother like her, its child abuse at its finest.

Guys, all i can say now is, you have you very own Vicky Pollard!



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 12:21 PM
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I hate to see any child taken away from its mother.
But in reality this could be a very important statement for the rest of the country in terms of having children that "parents" are not properly prepared for.

It has been a long time coming.
Holding folks responsible for those they bring into this world.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 01:20 PM
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Her children, or at least the new babies, should be taken away immediately. She can not care for them, and her mother will not be able to care for them either.

Her mother is basically being a babysitter, and there is a limit to how many kids you can babysit with only one person watching them. That limit is WELL below 14.

This is not acceptable. It is disgusting.



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 01:24 PM
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Well, here's how she's paying for them.....


The California woman who gave birth to octuplets has no income and intends to use student loans to care for them and her other six children at home, all under the age of 8.

“Do you have any income at all?” TODAY’s Ann Curry asked Nadya Suleman during her exclusive interview with the 33-year-old mother of 14 children.

“At the moment, no,” Suleman replied, adding that she intended to use student loans “temporarily” to pay for her family’s care.

“Right now, you don’t have an income to provide for your children?” Curry repeated.

“Probably just with the student loans,” Suleman said. “I am providing for my children. I am. And that will probably run out by the time I go back to school. So I have my own way. It’s an alternative way, but it works.”



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posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by skeptic1

“Right now, you don’t have an income to provide for your children?” Curry repeated.

“Probably just with the student loans,” Suleman said. “I am providing for my children. I am. And that will probably run out by the time I go back to school. So I have my own way. It’s an alternative way, but it works.”



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No - it doesn't work.
Can someone please help her to see why this alternative way - doesn't work?
Oh my.
Wow.
Earth to Suleman....



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 01:29 PM
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So where did the $165K+ go to??? The grandmother said she didnt help out with rent or anything like that.

And im sorry, but student loans? How would that cover anything? I get student loans (im a student) and anything left over that isnt going to classes/books is NOT enough to live on for a singler person!

This is just all crazy!!



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 01:31 PM
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I thought the $165K was from lawsuits or disability she got from being "injured on the job"?? Hell, that's what probably paid for the IVF treatments to begin with.

Wonder what we'll find out tomorrow about this....mother??



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 01:34 PM
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$100 000 plus has gone to the IVF.

The balance I think went to reconstructing an already pretty face. Here are the before and after pictures. Notice the change in the face especially lips and nose. In fact there is a plastic surgeon who should be sued for that nose.





[edit on 10-2-2009 by Mynaeris]



posted on Feb, 10 2009 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
All Grandma needs to do is throw the freeloading baby machine OUT of the house.

While I feel for Grandma and Grandpa, they are enabling this fiasco.

Toss her out on her rump. Problem solved.



No because as halfway decent human beings they don't want to throw the children out knowing she won't be able to care for them and they will all starve. Now if they could gain custody of the children and then throw the mother out that is a different story.



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