Global Resistance

Originally posted by Anathema
People just need to open their eyes.

That would force them out of their comfort level, then the complaining and whining would really start(and who wants more of that). Besides, people will do what they want to do, nobody can force them.

It will come all in time, you have heard of the great awakening, yes? Look it up if not.

[Edited on 27-4-2004 by ADVISOR]

You're definitely right ADVISOR it will come. And I didn't think about the complaining thing at all. People complain too much as it is lol.

I just hope it comes sooner rather than later.

has ne1 else tried to start a resistance here on ats?

While there may be certain groups of people that are like that, I honestly doubt that any kind of world-wide resistance is forming. Even if they did, theres not a 100% chance of them being able to fight them anyhow...

Originally posted by JamesMcMahn
has ne1 else tried to start a resistance here on ats?

yes, i remember a lot of new members calling for resistance groups against the new world order. The problem is, is that this site has been rumored to have spooks visiting now and again, so you have to be careful what you say. If your seen planning anything against the government, expect a knock at your door.

Where theres power theres corruption if you fort and won against these groups you would by your own instincs put a structure of comand in place to organize the remaning people.This would then corse the leaders to do what ever it took to remain in power.You would just repeat the process again.

is this what you was looking for raven20012

www.abovetopsecret.com...

they are already organizing this.

Yay go resistance,

raven, I think ideas similar to yours have been around for quite a while. Usually called marxism

(they just call the bad guys capitalists instead)

And someone's nicked your name already ...

Globalise Resistance
www.resist.org.uk...

Anti-capitalists related to the Socialist Workers' Party

[Edited on 4-6-2004 by leyo]

I've read many websites which state that we should overthrow the New world order,etc. But the thing is does the new world order ,or whatever its called, actually exist?

There is a group of elite, which discuss world affairs each year, but do they control the world? i doubt it. My advice would be before you start forming resistance groups, make sure what your fighting actually exist.

When i first came to ATS, i believed anything. I believed that we were all under control of the NWO and that every freemason is apart of illuminati plotting to take over the world. I believed that aliens were living in Area 51 and having meetings with the white house, i had no evidence to prove those claims, just my own opinion. A year on, i've learnt alot and grown up a lot, i have learnt to study information and search for hard evidence before jumping to conclusions.

I don't know if this is the right place for this but Its a question that needs asking.
Why are so many of the people on this Forum so certain that the U.S. government is trying to take over the world, our minds our lives etc? I don't want to insult anybody but when I hear words like The illuminat, NWO, the omega agency, freemasons, extraterrestials, etc I cringe. Now don't get me wrong I'm not one of these people who think that all conspiracy theorists are nutjobs with tinfoil hats but when I hear people saying that George bush planned 911 its hard NOT to start thinking that way. I dont believe tht the U.S. government is run by (insert nefarious group here) or that the fact tht most of the U.S. leaders have gone to an IVY league school is ll that indicative of anything except that wealty famillies send thier kids to the best schools and tht someone from a wealthy fmily has a better chance of getting elected or appointed into a position of power ( think about it if you have a friend who is in a high level position at a compny who has a better chance of being hired you or a guy off the street?)
As to secret government technology Do i believe the government has technology that they don't tell us bout? Yes OF COURSE they do because due to the nature of our society if we knew so would our enemies. It sometimes seems to me as if many people are just paranoid and thats seems too simple of a solution so please tell me, Why all the bad feelings?

It is true we are being conspired agaisnt but you people have it all wrong. It's not G.W. . It's Paul Edgar Philippe Martin I'm telling you. Canada sits up there and acts like they have nothing to hide , that they don't want in it and all that. But deep down they are plotting the Moon "laser" that will destroy all of man kind. I say blame Canada.


Nutzo

When i first came to ATS, i believed anything

Looking back at my previous post, it now seems pretty radical, hehe. I've learned much in the last few months and now look at things a bit differently, though this post has nontheless developed into a good discussion.

make sure what your fighting actually exist.

It is true the NWO makes sense and seems to be the next logical step in the evolution of the human race, but three far-reaching and determining questions remain and should be thoroughly discussed and debated...What type of government will the NWO be? Who will control the NWO? How will the NWO come to exist?

I personally believe for a one-world government to be put into place and accepted, the first step will be for the NWO to act as the sole unifying force in the world, addressing issues too global for individual countries to deal with; such as global warming, space exploration, the energy crisis, and security through a centralized peacekeeping force. Individual countries would continue to exist, just as there are states in the US. Each country would elect representatives to the 'World Council'. Secondly, once the world is prepared and in agreement, the NWO or 'World Council' would draft a unified 'World Constitution' outlining rights, freedoms, and general laws. This would undoubtedly be an arduous task, to come up with a set of rules for the world to live by which meet everyone's approval. However once completed a unified security force could be established and the world could disarm itself. The trillions spent on weapons could be channeled to massive development of the third world, education, healthcare, science, technology, etc. Without the worries of war, people would have a chance to succeed not only for themselves but to benefit the human race. A paradigm shift in the evolutionary consciousness of man will have occurred, and the human species would rise to a new level. However the key to the acceptance of a one-world government lies with variation. Different cultures and religions must be able to exist, and this is exactly where the problem lies.

Of course that was an example of a just instatement of a New World Order. Unfortunately, the powers that be don't care to acknowledge variation and will likely establish a NWO through force and deception. The current elite and secret societies all strive for complete control and wealth, leaving the masses to suffer.

Currently our battle to resist should involve discussions, debates, the gathering of evidence and general information warfare. It is our duty to inform the world.

-raven

Unfortunatly the nature of Man is such that he defines himself by his enemies. The advancement of the humn race has come about by the staedy advancement of our enemies.
Prehistory - my enemy is anyone not of my tribe/clan
Early history - my enemy is anyone not of my city-state
Mid-history - my enemy are those not of my empire/alliance/religon
recent history - my enemy is anyone of a different form of government(ie capitalist, communist)
In order for humanity to be united we need n enemy which allows us to overlook our differences, in other words unless we discover intelligent life out ther and go to war with them there will always be division.

First of all. If you want people to listen to you in the first place. You need to come up with proofs. Then if no proofs are availlables, you must dig into history to find examples. And based on history, this scenario of 9/11 being orchestratred is very plausible and in fact, I think is the reality.

All you need to do is come up with a website filled of past similar history event.

Here are 2 that I know.

Hitler set on fire his parlement and blamed it on the enemy to declare WWII.

Here in Canada we had the RCMP planting bombs and blowing them. Blaming the FLQ making them terrorist. But the thing is that the FLQ didn't planted these bombs. the RCMP did!! They killed people to gain their cause. The FLQ had to be disbanded. It was all proven in court and video archives do exist. It became the biggest scandal no one ever saw here on TV. But people forget really fast. These events were merely 40 yrs ago.

RCMP stand for Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
FLQ stand for Front de Liberation du Quebec.

FLQ was some public revolt, and was quickly turned into the enemy through propaganda and false bombing.

So be carefull when starting a militia

Originally posted by raven2012
2) The GR must come up with a slogan and symbol

5) A Global Resistance website must be established...

6) Websites will be used to ... sell GR t-shirts, etc.

7) Members will be encouraged to arm themselves.

LOL! I love these points raven. I'm sure the troubled trench coat gang youth of today will love this. I particularly like the order of which you placed these...obviously the egg came before the chicken.

I bowled a 784 in Columbine, CO.

It is true we are being conspired agaisnt but you people have it all wrong. It's not G.W. . It's Paul Edgar Philippe Martin I'm telling you. Canada sits up there and acts like they have nothing to hide , that they don't want in it and all that. But deep down they are plotting the Moon "laser" that will destroy all of man kind. I say blame Canada.

Quiet fool you'd never understand our nefarious plan, only good Canadians, Scandanavians and Russians will survive our plan to "Canadianize the worlds weather.
Seriously though, we're too busy arguing about a good health care system to bother with any real attempts to conquer or destroy the world.

FLQ was some public revolt, and was quickly turned into the enemy through propaganda and false bombing.

FLQ was no public revolt, it was an extremist group of seperatists who enjoyed some public sympathy until they kidnapped some officials and killed one of them. The seperatist movement was strong in Quebec then, however the actions of this particular group was too extreme for most of the people.

I honestly don't think any Global resistence in nessesary beyond want already exists, look at it out there, if the U.S. pushes just a little too far it could be staring down the barrels of the guns of the EU, Russia, China and whoever else wants on the bandwagon. The U.S. may be the only super-power out there, however given it's few allies in the case of a true attempt to push their influence to far. The U.S. economic situation will eleviate what hold it has on chunks of the world as the U.S. slowly but surely realises that it was to pay of the Trillions it ows. Military action to get forign contries under its sway won't fix their economy, the U.S. is no British Empire and will never be capable of the economic contruct that they built.

canada? Who cares about canada? Since when are they a world power? Since when do they have any influence? Imean really what are they gonna do Maple syrup them to death?
If there is a NWO I should think they would be smart enough to know that canada doesn't matter, I mean, who doesn't?

You can do a lot of damage with a can of spray paint and a couple of words..That one thing that can be done. The other is to create your own media, now problem with this is to bring it to the masses.