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reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 03:29 PM by americandingbat
As anyone who has spent any time on ATS will know, that is not an accurate portrayal. To begin with, it uses the word "article" to refer to posts by members – thereby insinuating that ATS itself is behind the stories referenced, without actually lying.

ATS is a bulletin board style forum. We all know that. And when we see a post about the FBI watching us through the walls, we know that we're taking it on the word of the poster, that it's not reflective of Official ATS Belief in any way.

Unlike the situation with a tabloid newspaper, incidentally




As to the second question – can and should anything be done to improve the image of ATS in media sources like this – it's something I've been interested in almost since I joined.

Not because I think we should do anything to change, but because I've become aware of a trend – not only in tabloids, but in main stream sources like the NYTimes and in academic journals – in discussing online conspiracy sites in general.

I think that the popularity of ATS and of other "alternative viewpoint" information sources has become a threat to the mainstream, that they are working to define and contain "conspiracy theory" in a new way.

I've said this in other threads, but I think it's worth repeating here: the stereotype of the conspiracy theorist until recently was a benign eccentric puttering away in his basement with his tin helmet. Odd, but harmless. Maybe even kind of endearing in a way.

What are they trying to sell us now? Psychology journals are wrestling with the paradox that if enough people believe in alien abduction and mind control, they can no longer label these beliefs as psychologic disorders. Their own definitions would have to change, and they would risk being at odds with religion – because how can a supposedly objective field of study label hearing aliens in your head as sick but hearing a man/god who's been dead for 2000 years in your head as healthy?

Mainstream news sources are playing up the "schizophrenic" angle. And now a tabloid is urging its readers to be concerned about a favorite celebrity.

Being a conspiracy theorist, they're trying to tell us, is no longer a harmless eccentricity – it's a sign of Paranoid Schizophrenia, and perhaps of Being Taken Advantage Of by unscrupulous internet sites.

I don't think we should change, but I do think we should be aware of the spin control going on, and how it's evolving.


reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 04:38 PM by neformore
I was thinking some more about this....then I did some research.

Daily Mail circulation for December 2008 - 2,139,178
Daily Mails own figures

ATS - Number of visits for December 2008 - 2,329,679
ATS December 2008

This underground "crackpot" messageboard we call home isn't so small after all, is it?


reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 04:40 PM by blupblup
reply to post by neformore



Daily mail like to think they're above the red-tops...

But they are the scum of the newspaper world.
Always dragging up racist rubbish about immigrants and generally being mean about people

[edit on 9/2/09 by blupblup]


reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 04:55 PM by Crakeur
reply to post by neformore



maybe we should issue a press release, discussing how some small town, little viewed antiquated "print" style gossip source has taken to talking to one of our members and we don't like it.



reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 05:00 PM by Maxmars
Originally posted by Crakeur
reply to
post by neformore



maybe we should issue a press release, discussing how some small town, little viewed antiquated "print" style gossip source has taken to talking to one of our members and we don't like it.


If I could be indulged, that's one journalistic adventure I would love to undertake!

A million 'virtual' stars for you! And a big fat brandy-soaked cheroot!


reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 05:10 PM by antar
reply to post by FredT



I only wish I could star your post, I totally agree.


reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 05:11 PM by FredT
reply to post by blupblup



Yeah is seems to be the case.

But heck thats the type of "journalism from your bedroom" (aka never get out and see the world) stuff that has gotten them to where they are.

In many ways they remind me of the record companies. Faced with a dying business model they have two choices.
1) Adapt
2) Try to tear down the competition.

#2 has worked for them for years but its a different time a differnt era.



reply posted on 9-2-2009 @ 05:17 PM by blupblup
reply to post by FredT



I know, but literally 95% of the stuff in these "tabloids" is just pure BS.
Truth is a foreign word to them and they know nothing of feelings or emotions.

Just how to make $$ ££....and they'll stop at nothing and won't let a little thing like accuracy/facts/truth stand in the way of a good (or completely crap in this case) story!!

Grrrrr

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