MSNBC is right on this story but a MSM tool on all other stories? This confuses me how the liberal elite MSM MSNBC would throw Obama under the bus. They are supposed to be helping him.

I really don't see it as a big deal, but it could dilute the authority of the National Security Council. Basically the council as it stand now primarily deals with military, intelligence and diplomatic issues. What Obama wants to do is add on experts from other Departments, Energy, Treasury, etc... This will allow the NSC to deal with a wide range of issues, both domestic and foreign, without only focusing on the first three listed above. However these other experts from the relevant departments would likely be called to meetings on a case by case basis (as it relates to them). I don't think they'll sit in on every meeting as a permanent member.

I just think this is a lot of issues for one body to discuss with efficiency.

but people on ATS thought that Obama was freedom

Obama is nothing ,but a corporate fascist who works for CFR, like Bush .

Obama will dismantle USA just like that zionist puppet Gorbachev dismantled USSR

"Sweeping new powers"

Not the change I was hoping for.

With the economic crisis, growing government, sweeping new powers etc. this is all starting to look like the beginning of a George Orwell fantasy.

Originally posted by Walkswithfish
"Sweeping new powers"

Not the change I was hoping for.

Or the headline I would have approved as chief. It should be "new authority", not "powers", the NSC has no "powers" to begin with. And by the term "authority" I mean ability to ponder and make recommendations on issues which may not be strictly related to the military, intelligence community or diplomacy. See how much simpler life is when comprehensive and critical reading is applied?

It certainly looks like "sweeping new powers" to me, not just for the NSC, but for the new President.

from the article:

Directorates inside Jones's NSC staff will oversee implementation of decisions. "It doesn't mean that we micromanage or supervise," he said. "But you have to make sure, . . . particularly if it's a presidential decision, that the president is kept abreast of how things are going. That it doesn't just fall off the end of the table and disappear into outer space."

Change?

Again, this is not the kind of change we need, a consolidation of powers provides an opportunity for TOO MUCH power over the people.

With a potential for complete economic collapse, more and more people are going to become dependant on a growing government, with sweeping new powers... There is great potential for unstoppable abuse of that power.

I was a fool to believe in change, and today I admit that.

I am afraid that the vision of the United States of America that our founding fathers had is going to be exchanged for a new vision of 'change'. A future where government is everything, and everyone will comply if they want to survive, or else.

Read the whole article, all pages and put some deeper thought into it. Also consider current events. This is not a good sign at all. Socialism, expanding government, possible death of capitalism in exchange for government control, investment and regulations etc. with leadership gaining sweeping NEW powers.

The direction is changing, the course is full blown socialism, to get there consolidating powers while gaining more control and regulation over the private sector and the people through a convenient financial crisis or possible collapse will take us all to a place we should not want to be.

Dependant on government. Liberty, opportunity, freedom and the will of the people lost.

Welcome to the beginning of the Communist States of America!

___ bless the CSA!



[edit on 8-2-2009 by Walkswithfish]

I would also wager that most of the'POWERS' used will be used against Americans and domestic spying and ignore what ever threat we might face from abroad!

Zindo

It is so distressing for me to watch these events unfold.

I really do want to hope for the best, but feel the need to prepare for the worst.

Strap in those seat belts, because this is gonna be a bumpy ride.

[edit on 8-2-2009 by loam]

Everyone make way for the new Civilian Security Force! I can foresee it becoming a new arm of the NSC to keep the country free of any and all possible anti-Obama sentiment. We're all in for some Change, but I doubt many of us will like what it entails.

[edit on 8-2-2009 by LLoyd45]

But I don't get it, why the need to expand The NSC powers when we already have homeland of oppression I mean homeland security to do that.

Now to have two groups oppressing the citizens more than already are?

I am not surprise as we here in ATS many times warn people about the results and repercussions of the type of initiatives the Bush administration did in their pursue of more powers.

The door is wide open to anything else any administration will bring upon and against the citizens.

I wonder when all this is going to actually be called unconstitutional when the powers of the executive branch takes over everything else.

[edit on 9-2-2009 by marg6043]

I'm shocked that this thread has died off in responses. This is big stuff. I'm waiting for someone to come along and explain how this is 'change from the way Washington does things'. Or is it change .. as in digging the hole deeper?

FlyersFan,
With that post I have invested in mining equipment so I can try to dig my way out of that hole thats being created. its a sink hole thats going to engulf most of the country and its citizens. I'm going to make a valiant effort to find my way out. Hope I don't run out of batteries...I hate being lost in the dark!!
Zindo

hey wth

page has expired?

That msnbc link is no longer good.
Anyone got an active link?

what happened?