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U.S. vs. China

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posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by WestPoint23
Well it was this paper tiger who saved china in WWII from the Japanese. Also This paper tiger has the world biggest stock pile of Nuclear missiles and weapons. This paper tiger has the worlds most technologically advanced military. Oh yeah were rich as hell too. So go ahead and keep thinking that the U.S. is a Paper Tiger, you might just get a paper cut. LoL


With all due respect wtf are you talking about?

You prove the above point,with your complete disreguard, and lack of knowledge concerning history.....

We are rich, we are powerful right now, we can do what we want....You are either with us or against us......

You( and your mentality) are the precise reason why the rest of the world hates us, right now. Do you not see that?




posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by WestPoint23
Well it was this paper tiger who saved china in WWII from the Japanese. Also This paper tiger has the world biggest stock pile of Nuclear missiles and weapons. This paper tiger has the worlds most technologically advanced military. Oh yeah were rich as hell too. So go ahead and keep thinking that the U.S. is a Paper Tiger, you might just get a paper cut. LoL


WestPoint23, I cant believe you could say these all!! You get the wrong meaning what paper tiger is! Are you truly an American??!! Are you one of those who talk big and fear of going to war?!

Your words will make people never respect you. And i dont respect you ever more.

This will be my last post, thanks for all guys and I learn a great deal about american people here.



posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 07:32 PM
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Boo Hoo, cry me a river.
All the things I states are true, and hen push comes to shove were not afraid of anyone if that is what you mean by paper tiger.
Yes I’m a proud American, and why should I care what someone else thinks when they are fueled by jealousy and hate for my way of life.



posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by WestPoint23
Boo Hoo, cry me a river.
All the things I states are true, and hen push comes to shove were not afraid of anyone if that is what you mean by paper tiger.
Yes I’m a proud American, and why should I care what someone else thinks when they are fueled by jealousy and hate for my way of life.

Westy....you will notice the US is the only one pushing and shoveing.....



posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by WestPoint23
Boo Hoo, cry me a river.
All the things I states are true, and hen push comes to shove were not afraid of anyone if that is what you mean by paper tiger.
Yes I’m a proud American, and why should I care what someone else thinks when they are fueled by jealousy and hate for my way of life.


you will probably find your way of life is not so different to that enjoyed by a good many others in this world...

Your should also stop to think about the people who do not... and instead of boasting you should be humble about it... what if it was you?



posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 07:41 PM
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Your should also stop to think about the people who do not... and instead of boasting you should be humble about it... what if it was you?


If it were me, I'd probably hate people like you, who tell nations like America that it is wrong to intervene in the affairs of sovereign nations, no matter how brutal and twisted they are.



posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 07:45 PM
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where did I mention that?

your jumping to conclusions


If you must know I supported the Iraq war on the basis people would be set free from Saddam... though I am suspicious of the US motives I personally am more upset about attitudes like yours

Please refrain... thank you



posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by WestPoint23
Boo Hoo, cry me a river.
All the things I states are true, and hen push comes to shove were not afraid of anyone if that is what you mean by paper tiger.
Yes I’m a proud American, and why should I care what someone else thinks when they are fueled by jealousy and hate for my way of life.


All the things you say are IGNORANT!!!!

And the decent intgelligent Americans like me, are sick of the rest of you making us all look like the same ill-informed hicks .....

We are not all like this

Some of us do have sense



posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 10:15 PM
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If you must know I supported the Iraq war on the basis people would be set free from Saddam... though I am suspicious of the US motives I personally am more upset about attitudes like yours


And how would you feel if America started liberating the rest of the Middle East, and Africa? Would you support that?


And the decent intgelligent Americans like me, are sick of the rest of you making us all look like the same ill-informed hicks .....


You blame Republicans for the world hating us (which they have since about the 50's), but liberals can be blamed for far more serious problems America has. Our massive debt is from huge, inefficient welfare programs started by liberals. Our soldiers struggle to fight guerilla wars because liberals complain if we use too much force. We lost Vietnam becausae of you guys.

Our reputation in Europe is meaningless, and anyone who puts weight into that hasn't been paying attention during the past few decades.


You prove the above point,with your complete disreguard, and lack of knowledge concerning history.....


I've love to know what you really know about history. You throw around a lot of accusations, but you never back it up. All of the posts I've seen from you have simply been insulting those who don't think America should become a pussy welfare state that pretends what Europe says matters.

[edit on 26-3-2005 by Disturbed Deliverer]



posted on Mar, 26 2005 @ 11:31 PM
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No decent American gives a crap what Europe thinks of the U.S.; we care for our own security, not our own reputation. It is also because of hardcore liberals that the crime rate went so far up in this country. And wfliu, believe me, the U.S. is not any "paper tiger."

[edit on 26-3-2005 by Broadsword20068]



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 12:08 AM
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If you must know disturbed I am currently working on a post graduate degree in ancient Iranian studies. So I do know a tad, even if it is concerning ancient societies.Tell me now, what do YOU know of history then?

I am not just speaking of our reputation in europe right now either. our reputation as you put it is a direct result of our actions. That statement concernign europe, along with your others, prove that you have not payed attention to anything I have posted, despite your claims.

I never blamed the "republicans" for anything, what are you talking about? I also never mentioned anything about a welfare state, please tell me what you are talking about? You conveniently lump them all together with the "evils"of "liberalism" and somehow tie that to our loss in vietnam? Forgive me for my confusion.

As I have also previously stated I am not here to post links and educate you all (even though I DO occasionally post link's). I am terribly sorry if the USA's education system has left you incapable of dealing with facts, but that is once again not my problem, or responsiblity to rectfiy. Usually when in an semi-intelligent conversation one is not burdened with the responsibility of providing sources, I see this as nothing different than a conversation. Sorry.

Look, I am not trying to be rude, and I am sorry if I come off that way. I was just under the impression that this was a "conspiracy" website ,which usually entails people knowing their history. Most of what I have found around here has been textbook views on history and current events, and my post' obviously show my frustration, once again I apologize. Many views expressed here are from an American perspective that is unique only to our educational system, and are interestingly found NO WHERE else in the world. It just seems as if people like to post links here despite the fact that few ever actually objectively read them, and alter their views based on the information provided. I highly doubt any link I would post, will change anybodys opinion as to what I am saying, which is why I don't waste my time.If you sincerely would like links to reference my point of view then I can and will supply them, but I will not do so with every post, and comment.

[edited for politeness]

[edit on 27-3-2005 by 1wintermute1]



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 12:43 AM
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If you must know disturbed I am currently working on a post graduate degree in ancient Iranian studies. So I do know a tad, even if it is concerning ancient societies.Tell me now, what do YOU know of history then?


I know massive Iranian armies have been crushed by numerous Western forces throughout history.


I never blamed the "republicans" for anything, what are you talking about? I also never mentioned anything about a welfare state, please tell me what you are talking about? You conveniently lump them all together with the "evils"of "liberalism" and somehow tie that to our loss in vietnam? Forgive me for my confusion.


You said people like WestPoint. You don't have to say conservative. I didn't have to say liberal. Everyone who lives in the real world knows this. It's a nice game to try and act like you are above labeling people, or being labeled yourself. It's just a game in the end.

I'd love to here you state right now you believe in 100% true capitalism, and not European socialism. I'd be shocked if you said you supported the Vietnam war. Of course, neither of these things will happen.


As I have also previously stated I am not here to post links and educate you all (even though I DO occasionally post link's). I am terribly sorry if the USA's education system has left you incapable of dealing with facts, but that is once again not my problem, or responsiblity to rectfiy. Usually when in an semi-intelligent conversation one is not burdened with the responsibility of providing sources, I see this as nothing different than a conversation. Sorry.


You've yet to give any facts, just a rather baseless opinion.



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 12:52 AM
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Please see my post I edited it.

I realize the "real world"as you say requires labels, so in that sense you could call me an Anarchist, and not a socialist.

No I do not believe in 100% true capitalism, as you say.

As for the Vietnam War...I was born on the day that America evacuated it's last citizens out...........So no I never supported the war.

Your assumptions are correct. That does not invalidate anything I say.

[edited due to ineptitude]



[edit on 27-3-2005 by 1wintermute1]



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 02:41 AM
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USA
Chinese


[edit on 27-3-2005 by tiger_lie1]



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 06:19 PM
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Ahh... how sad every one hats the big bad US of A yet they all want tot come here

I personally don't car what Europe thinks of us, at least our economy is growing and our unemployment rate is way lower than theirs, man talk out a bad way to live.



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by WestPoint23
Ahh... how sad every one hats the big bad US of A yet they all want tot come here

I personally don't car what Europe thinks of us, at least our economy is growing and our unemployment rate is way lower than theirs, man talk out a bad way to live.

Yes our unemployment is higher but we work harder...

so tell me is everyone from mexico?



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 07:34 PM
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Yes our unemployment is higher but we work harder...


No you don't. Americans work far more hours then mainland Europe. The UK is supposed to have poor productivity compared to the rest of Europe, in spite of putting in more hours.


so tell me is everyone from mexico? [/QUOTE]

Are all of your workers from East Europe, or the Middle East?



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by Disturbed Deliverer
No you don't. Americans work far more hours then mainland Europe. The UK is supposed to have poor productivity compared to the rest of Europe, in spite of putting in more hours.

Its noted that you work far longer , but europeans are far more productive in thier time.
The UK is just full of lazy gits, I am talking about europe as a whole , if we wanted to compare the UK to america we would need to compare it to a state.



Are all of your workers from East Europe, or the Middle East?

Nope, and this wasnt what I was getting at but tangent on at your discretion...



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 07:58 PM
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Its noted that you work far longer , but europeans are far more productive in thier time


According to who? If that were the case, I don't think their economies would be shrinking.


The UK is just full of lazy gits, I am talking about europe as a whole , if we wanted to compare the UK to america we would need to compare it to a state.


You can compare rates. It has nothing to do with total size.



posted on Mar, 27 2005 @ 07:59 PM
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What is all this nonsense about comparing the UK to a state you guys are worst off then I though if you cant be compared to one country.



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