posted on Mar, 15 2005 @ 12:16 AM
The chinese would lose. They are so immence they would be crushed by their own weight. The United States could almost bring them to their knees
without firing a single shot, and honestly the chinese know this. They realize the simply haven't the means to fight a war against the U.S.
The chinese are on track to run a 6 billion dollar agriculural deficit with just the U.S. this year. That doesn't include the rest of the world.
I would speculate that they can feed themselves now, but just barely. You take the russians and europeans out of the agriculture exporting game
through united nations sanctions and china will starve. Furthermore if china starves where does N Korea get there food and much needed raw materials.
Thats right, from us, we would be the only ones left to help N korea and they would know this because we would make it quite clear I am sure. N Korea
would not get involved for anything at that point. Kim might be crazy but he wants to maintain his power above all other things.
Now don't get me wrong, I am by no means suggesting the U.S. is invincible. I will freely state that if we attempted some kind of preemptive
strike we could very well be buried by the world. If china attacks first though, I submit that the countries of the world would be either against them
or neutral, and that even those who are neutral would not play with the political brimstone that would be the aiding of the Chinese war effort.
China already suffers from a well known energy crisis. The energy crunch that would come from the immediate disruption of oil would cripple them
beyond any ability they may have to compensate for this loss. If they attack first there is no way the would recieve a drop of oil from Saudi Arabia,
Iraq, Kuwait, venezuela, mexico, or norway. and even if Iran wanted to get oil to them how would they. They couldn't go through Pakistan,
Afghanistan, or turkmenistan and the persian gulf would be locked down so tight you wouldn't be able to get a raft through it let alone a freighter.
So that leaves Russia, who though, while I think it improbable could possibly provide oil. The only reason I can say they might, is based simply on
their past support for countries at war with the U.S.. Even this wouldn't matter. Russia could never even come close to satiating Chinas need for oil
in peacetime let alone wartime.
I also propose that the Chinese people are not a free people, and even more important they are not a truely unified people. I don't care how pretty
the picture the communist party paints us is, just below the paint are millions of oppressed people who would not be lining up to help the war effort
out, especially when the food runs out. There is also a very strong democratic movement at work under the surface, and how would the chinese
government continue to use there millitary to suppress this while fighting a war, fact is they couldn't and they know it. The chinese government is
rife with corruption top to bottom, and in a war, this weakness would be exploited to the hilt by the U.S.. It would be like Afghanistan all over
again, we would only have to fight those we couldn't buy off, and that list my friends could be very short. The insurgency that could be created in
Hong Kong alone would tie up thousands upon thousands of troops.
All this and we haven't even dropped a bomb yet, and though I believe we wouldn't even have too, if we did, it would be the death nail. All of
chinas nuclear carrying submarines would be on the bottom of the ocean before the second bomb landed in Taiwan. The next thing to go would be the
three gorges dam, the material loss from the destruction of this project in itself would be almost too much for the chinese economy to absorb. Also
nuclear and fossil fueled reactors mean very little without power lines to carry the electricity, and believe me those would be gone in no time as
well. Keep in mind china hasen't even touched our infrastructure in all this. Having a billion people means nothing if you can't feed them and
can't move them. Tanks and airplanes are useless without fuel to power them, just ask Hitler. If China takes taiwan which they could do, they would
be packing up and moving back out before they knew they had arrived.
One final note is this, the world hasn't seen the United States in a full out war for its survival since world war II. We would not be playing
this one with the restraint shown in the Balkans or Iraq, this would be savage and fierce. The losses on the Chinese side would be so terrible it
makes me alost sick to think of it. The Chinese could not win this war without the support of the world, and though the world may not like us all that
much right now they realize that an America they don't like like is better then a China they would have to fear.
[edit on 15-3-2005 by bigbuddah]
[edit on 15-3-2005 by bigbuddah]